2011-04-19, 02:15 | Link #903 |
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Is it me or is this series getting....dull. No offence but the author is stuffing up the story by interfernece. By interference I mean during the battle.
Ichika vs Rin, intefered by a Non-pilot IS Cecilia&Rin vs Laura, Ichika&Charlotte intergeres Ichika vs Laura, Laura's IS get bereserk and was not in control There were intereference in volume 6. And by the looks of it in volume 7 is well. |
2011-04-19, 02:33 | Link #904 |
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Well, it's common for an author to follow a certain formula in the early volume of a series. He/she wants to not change what works while trying to find his/her own writing style. To be fair, this series is still young with only 6 main volume(volume 4 was just a side story so that doesn't count) and the author has tried once, in volume 3, to break the formula.
Still, I can't deny that it's getting dull if he keeps repeating the formula. He better move forward the plot soon or he will lose a lot of fans. |
2011-04-19, 04:03 | Link #905 | ||
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2011-04-19, 04:27 | Link #906 |
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The problem is not the harem antic part, it's actually at the serious plot. Frankly, the way the author enter the serious part of the story is the biggest problem IMO. For example
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Following the story formula is good for several volumes or so, but I'm not sure I want to keep reading the same formula over and over again for, let's say..... 8 or 9 volume of LN. The author really need to change the formula, like.... making a larger scale battle that span for 2-3 volumes, or focusing a whole volume for a buildup just before the big arcs, especially now that after vol 5 we're introduced to the probable-big-bad and the military IS user in vol 6 prologue. Make our protagonist group cooperate with a nation's IS army to take care of a big problem, or make the whole academy student and the teacher involved in a large battle because of serious threat, or even change the POV from Ichika to one of the heroine for a volume. Anything that make the story engaging and break the formulaic nature so far. Granted, I know this is still a young series and the series is directed toward younger audience, but if baka to test to shoukanjuu can do a 2 book arc, why can't this series do the same, or even a bigger arc since clearly the theme here is much "heavier" than baka to test, although the mood in storytelling is about the same. I really hope the author start to build toward a bigger arc, or he might have to make the bigger arc as a final arc instead because of declining interest :P |
2011-04-19, 17:35 | Link #910 |
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True, but with that ending they could still make Season 2 so i actually liked it. It looks like IS still hasnt went past the mid-point yet.
I was actually looking for to volume 7 because of volume 6 ending. But they fixed that problem easily as if nothing happened. I think the novel would have become more exiceting if madoka actually shot Ichika, then kidnapped him. Then Ichika could be held is a hostage for 2 volumes while he actually gets all the information and gets stronger. The others could be motivated into finding Ichika, so they could actually battle squall and co. Instead its a new year where ichika is a second year student....... The author recently is focused on harem isnt he... |
2011-04-19, 21:18 | Link #912 | |
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Changing POV of the person happens as well, and from what I've seen even if it's a switch for a entire volume we'd still only get how hopelessly the girl/s have fallen for Ichika, like in the rest of the bits with the POV switch. Changing the POV probably won't do much to the formula. |
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2011-04-19, 22:23 | Link #913 | |
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Probably not. He's still in first year. It's not even new year yet timeline wise since vol 7 happened right after vol 6.
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What I meant by changing POV wasn't just looking through the story through someone else eyes, it's to completely change the main character in an arc, maybe even as much as turning Ichika as a complete side character for an arc. It's just like in Index vol 8, we get to see the adventure through Kuroko's eyes, maybe this time we can see the adventure through Chifuyu's eyes, letting us know what the teachers do every day beside teaching. They might be involved with some politics as well to keep the independence of the academy :P |
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2011-04-20, 03:20 | Link #914 | |
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That sounds good.... i'm a little bit boring about ichika view (actually i like his perspective but change to another person view like your idea is really interesting) |
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2011-04-20, 04:25 | Link #915 | |
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2011-04-20, 06:30 | Link #916 |
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Well, the thing is the first years seem to have been trained for competitive sports, not military operations. IS to IS combat, one to two man teams, like Chifuyu said in episode 4 there's a lot more they still have to learn about teamwork. I don't think they've been drilled in military formation, tactics, large groups and combined arms warefare (IS are powerful, but conventional forces are probably still used as decoys, in guarding supply lines, artillery, garrison troops/peacekeepers etc...) yet. And the thing, I don't think they're psycologicially ready to actually kill the person in front of them, enemy or not. Still young.
The girls (and Ichika) did okay agains the Gospel but if Phantom Task is well organized and trained I'd be worried about sending them out in battle. |
2011-04-20, 07:06 | Link #917 |
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Well, what I was thinking was more like they send the students to battle because they have to, not because they choose to. It was more along the line why you sent civilian militia force to battle in war even if you have an army.
My point is, the author really need to break the formulaic nature of his storytelling and try something new to give the reader a fresh feeling when reading it. Of course, he can still leave the harem antic part in since it was apparent that that's where he shines, but just try break the formulaic nature. Heck, he can make a full volume of harem antic if he wants, kinda like the calm before a storm setting. |
2011-04-20, 20:56 | Link #919 |
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Chinese version has up to Vol6, but I've seen the Vol7 cover at the site.
Come to think of it, it was mentioned in Vol3 fighting against the Gospel the representative candidates were at least marginally trained in warfare, asking questions on the situation. When you have a personal machine the IS might be more than sports. |
2011-04-20, 21:39 | Link #920 |
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At least Laura has a extense military background.............the other probably became attached to their respective representative candidacy countrie's military (Tatenashi got attached to Russias military for being Russias offical representative)
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