Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 1 Discussion / Poll

[C.A.]

Originally Posted by D a m i e n

nice first eps the only thing i didnt understood was the reason why saji was thrown into prison.
lol @ soma at the end of the eps

If my ears and Japanese skills are good enough, it seems:

Saji's work-mate, is either a Celestial Being or more probably the resistance associate/member. Resistance refers to the group Shirin is in, they seem to be against the Arrows/A-Laws.

Saji not knowing why the Arrows personnel are going after the guy interferes and is captured as well for being thought to be related to the guy.

[SaintessHeart]

It is more like a modded version of Zwei to me.

So what is Nena piloting?

Btw Shirin's "boyfriend" is named Klaus.

[JMvS]

Originally Posted by C.A.

Ah, that's quite a good reason. Celetial Being, an organisation created to end wars, needs people who hates war to begin with. I think Saji fits in as well.

And the Ahead, I think it fits Masked Man's design. The Masked Man has a Japanese Bushido style and the Ahead's shoulders look like Samurai shoulder armour.

I agree, Saji will most likely join CB, and get mindscrewed when he will face Louise

On the picture, IIRC, several Ahead variations were published in a mag, and one had a horned beetle aspect, much more fitting for Masked Man.
This one screams of Soma, given how it resembles Taozi.

[golthin]

Originally Posted by Skellington2612

Let´s see... so:

Spoiler for main things??:

-Sumeragi is in bed with that long haired guy (forgot his name)

That kind of annoys me. I guess she must be a mess to need that guy to support her.

[Seibee]

Originally Posted by golthin

That kind of annoys me. I guess she must be a mess to need that guy to support her.

Billy's not that bad, and it's clear he always liked Sumeragi. I'm sure he'd have looked after her.

[kari-no-sugata]

I'm really happy with how they started this new season. No fat and lots of raw meat. Yummy.

Here's a brief summary: Kataron is a new organisation that seems to be trying to fill in for CB, and at the start we see some new Ahead's from A-Laws take out a base. The head of Kataron decides to bump up a certain mission because of this. Meanwhile, Saji's been at the mining satellite "Proud" for half a year but is still being treated by a newbie, which annoys him a bit. However, some guards are here to pick up Saji's work-mate as suspect for being with Kataron - the guy resists arrest and is shot. When Saji protests, he's immediately arrested too... and sent to work in a 5g environment (at least until the rotation is stopped later on).

At CB, Tieria gets some info (via Liumei) and suspects that if "he" (Setsuna) is still alive then he'd be going to a particular place to do something, so he decides to head out himself. And indeed, Setsuna is busy infiltrating "Proud" and notices the guards leaving due to some operation. After shooting a laggard in the back (disabling the guy's gravity assist), Setsuna interrogates him as to the plan, but the grunt only knows he was told to go on stand by. Setsuna leaves him. (As a side note, I like the 5g heavy foot-steps).

Meanwhile, Saji has a new friend among his fellow slaves, who seems to know what's going on and about to happen - Kataron turn up to rescue their comrades. However, the A-Laws predicted this and go out to kill them all... doing a little test of their automated killer robots while they're at it. This is also the first sortie for Louise, and is told to just wait on stand-by because of this (seems they care about their own at least).

Setsuna saves Saji and they recognise each other. Setsuna is kinda pissed that "nothing has changed" and remote orders Exia to come. Saji is rather curious about what Setsuna is doing here but Setsuna just tells him to keep quiet.

Outside, the A-Laws completely have the upper hand though Louise shots down one Kataron MS from long distance and is praised for her good judgement. However, mentally she is suffering badly.

Setsuna then gets into Exia and wipes out all the auto-robots and charges through the group of Aheads (taking an arm). However, the damaged Exia is no match for multiple Aheads and is saved by the arrival of Tieria. The Ahead commander guy has to drag off Louise who is suffering from a headache - and interestingly, it seems that Ribbons can see through her eyes. He comments that this is nice since she now has a reason to fight.

Back on the satellite, Saji grabs Setsuna's gun and demands to know if Setsuna had always been in CB and had taken part in armed interventions. Setsuna confirms this. Saji starts crying about all the killing the Gundams / CB have done - what they did to "the girl he loved" and his only family, his sister. However, he doesn't shoot.

Back on the Ptolemaios II, Feldt seems happy that Setsuna is alive and they all suspect Setsuna will be surprised that Lasse is still alive. Ian is looking forwards to getting Exia's GN Drive for the 00.

Back on earth, Soma and Sergei's domestic live (has Sergei retired?) is interrupted by the arrival of his son, who has come to take Soma to work for A-Laws. Sergei didn't even know that his son was with A-Laws either... and Soma didn't know that Sergei had a son.

On the Ptolemaios, Tieria is almost criticising Saji for not shooting. Saji says if he became a killer than he'd be no worse than them. Tieria tells Saji it would be better for him to see for himself - to wake up and see the world for what it is.

Setsuna is now down on Earth again and has called out Lyle Dylandy, who he knows is working for Kataron. Setsuna introduces himself and says he's from CB and invites Lyle to join them as Lockon Stratos.


Well, that's about enough for now. Very busy episode with a number of little time skips. Interestingly, Saji doesn't seem to appear in the OP, making it unclear where his destiny lies. Also, Louise seems to be shown a bit close to Sergei's son. Hmm. BTW, it almost seems like Louise was forced to join A-Laws or something. She doesn't seem terribly motivated. Seems highly likely she's been tampered with - some kind of cybernetics or nanomachines inside her I bet.

Anyway, time to watch 1080p version. Yummy.

[Kelrys]

Thanks for the run-through.

[TrueKnight]

Dang, one hell intense and action packed 1st ep. Lol Setsuna getting pawned. Seems like he's only godly when he's in a Gundam or a suit around 2 or 3 generations ahead. The MS fights are awesome btw.

Livonze can see through Louise's eyes. Sergei lived a peaceful and quite life with Soma (adopted daughter?) until being called of duty again by none other than his son! Seems like he never told Soma about it. Lyle replacing Lockon as suspected and Allelujah imprisoned on some remote Alcatraz. Gra-.. I mean the Masked Man looked badass with his Oni/Gundam mask.

Man what a way to start a new season, 10/10. The new OP is great as well in the end showing Setsuna in 00 fighting the Masked Man in a new suit.

[Galerian]

That was awesome!

Season 1 was a mere prologue to the epicness foreshadowed in this episode! The sheer number of new factions plus the old conflicts will turn this series into a machiavellian king-of-the-hill of immense proportions. I was planning to sum up all the conflicts to prove my point; but realized that would probably claim hours of my precious time. I love it.

I'm especially interested in the Soma and Sergei and their different uniforms (see theis episodes op/ed). I assume at some point the Federation will try to reign in A-Head resulting in the glorious drama and massive fleet battles. I also can't wait to see Ali, Katy (now an A-Laws captain, which is interesting to say the least), and Patrick (probably in A-Laws serving under Katy, as he should!).

I had high expectations of this episode, story and character wise, and Gundam 00 didn't dissapoint. The action in the colony was brilliant and did true justice to the veteran streetfighter Setsuna. The space combat was good as well, placing the A-Head suits on an equal level as the gundams. I hope it stays that way.

Furthermore, there are some interesting technological/military developments. For instance how did the rebelgroup Kataron managed to lay their hands on so many military hardware. They have Mobile Suits previously belonging from the AEU, HRL and the Union. Plus they had an entire space carier, spacedock and who knows what more. Could be that all is not well in the federation. Could be that Claus is really good at what he does. Can't wait to find out.

Rating 9/10. It ain't perfect for me because they showed me no sign of Patrick.

[Wesley84]

I'm watching the raw.

Spoiler:

Got some red vs. blue mecha action. A nice musical score that's nice until the stupid lady chimes in, and ruins everything.

A man and a woman chatting in a very cramped room.

An middle-aged man that looks like Mr. Rogers is chatting away on a cellphone, when a young woman enters with a tea set. They talk a little, generally friendly atmosphere.

Now we're in space again. Some construction work, and a fight in the locker room with some guards for no apparent reason. They shoot the guy that started the fight, and his buddy defends him and gets taken in too.

Skip to a cute hair-style with a generic face under it speaking, when an old man pops up next to her. They're chatting to some guy who seems to be on a spaceship, with a Gundam on it.

The guy who was friendly with the guy that got shot seems to be made to do heavy labor in a smeltering enviroment. Heavy? Labor? In space? Who designed that station?

One of the laborers collapsed while the one guy asked him if he was alright, which surely justifies beating them both.

Oh nuts. No beatings.

Cut to an uninspiring bridge local with a fatman. Heard the word Gundam. They seem to be Team Red from the introduction.

I like the look of Team Red's carrier. It's a typical design, but it's an asethetic, industrial, angular design I've grown to like from years of videogames and movies.

Cut to the moon/large asteriod, where nothing happens besides a guy closing a door.

Back to the good hearted forklift operator. Are they pushing coal? And they seem to be complaining about their working enviroment which can only mean one thing; more beatings.

Ah, the guy that closed the door. Regular secret agent it seems. Also has magnetic boots judging from the way he's stomping around. One of the guards seems to be suffering some kind malufunction with his suit and is convinently lagging behind the others. Can only mean one thing; a beating! :nuts

Oh, nevermind. Just shot him in the back. Um? Do guns work in an oxygen free enviroment? Guns not silenced, so if there's an atmosphere, the sound should have traveled pretty far.

Oh neat. Looks like a static defense. Going by standard RTS rules though, it's completely useless besides area denial, and is most certainly not cost effective. Either way, Team Blue seems to be on the move. I suppose Door Closer Secret Agent is working for them?

Team Blue just crashed into Team Beatings with Menial Labor's hangar bay.

The guys working for Team Blue are all wearing different uniforms. Weird.

Team Red is attacking. I suppose they knew about the operation in advance?

Team Blue just lost it's ship after unloading a handful of soldiers. A disproportionally large ship for such a small number of men.

General melee outside between Team Blue and Team Red. Why didn't Team Blue protect it's ship?

Ooo. Team Red has robots. Time to purge the workforce!

Good natured Forklife Operator lost his other buddy to a Redbot. Between Redbots and beatings, what's the point to making on-the-job friends?

Ah, Dooropener saved Forlift Operator's life. You can feel the love between them now. But weren't there at least a dozen of those robots though?

Interesting. Forklife Operator seems to recognize Dooropener, and vice versa. I guess I hit a little close to the mark with the "feel the love" crack.

Damn robots. The way the one tracked the other guy and blew him away as he was running, they shouldn't be missing people like that.

Team Red seems to have cleaned up Team Blue. The one Red girl is hypervenilating. Don't they black-ball pilot candidates?

Why does Dooropener keep shooting at them? I hate it when characters shoot at dangerous, invunerable things. It just draws attention.

Now the Redbots operate in pairs.

Some kind of flashback of Dooropener as a kid. No end to the explosives the guy is carrying. Wonder why he was there in the first place, since he's just grabbed his old buddy and is running away now.

Airlock. We and Forklife Operator are treated to a glimpse of a one eyed Gundam. Kind of reminds me of that one lame villigante mecha from Godannar. Personally I hated the whole deal with that guy and the loli he picked up during the series. Huge waste of time, very annoying.

Team Red seems to be losing it's robots.

"Gundam Exia". The girl had some kind of eye-reaction, so I'm guessing she's there for a reason, and not as a pilot. What's up with the cape though?

Hey wait a minute. You drag the guy around, saving his life, but you leave him to behind when you fight Team Red? Are all the Redbots gone?

Pretty good fight outside between the Gundam and Team Red. Exia's a piece of garbage though. An extra arm wouldn't have made a difference.

Ah, a timely save by another Gundam. Shame.

Shield. Lame.

Team Red retreats. Makes me wonder why they were there in the first place.

Team-G's arrived. Couple of bridge bunnies getting all sentimental. And seriously? "Desu"? Someone's trying too hard to be cute.

Forklife Operator is devasted that Dooropener is a Gundam Pilot apparently.

Someone needs a hug.

Goes straight for the gun, I would have just punched him. Well, I'd like to say that, but I've never hit anyone in my life so...

Blonde girl is on some kind of meds. Green guy she's mindfucked to is talking...

Some guy in a red dress introduces himself to Green guy.

I guess everyone is all up in arms now that "Gundams" have appeared.

They seem to have kidnapped Forklift operator.

Show's over.

Not as much fun pretending like I don't recognize the characters. Some thoughts though.

Lousie's seriously fucked. I personally hate what they've done with her, and hope she dies, along with Saji who is putting his engineering degree to good use by operating a Forklift. Hopefully the reunion phase for Celestial Being won't last very long.

Soma speaks more gently than I remember, and Mei Liu sounds more like a man.

A-Laws, also known as Team Red, didn't seem particularly evil. Hard to say what was going on though. I can't see a private enterprise administering beatings to it's workers, and slave labor in space seems kind of stupid to me.

It's not as wanky and pretentious as the first episode of the last season. There was less horrible ownage, and the production levels for the first episode weren't spectaularly high I think, which is good. I'd rather a series be consistent than rising and falling as relevanant episodes give way to filler.

Anyway, looking forward to the subs.

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by JMvS

It has exactly the same color scheme as A-laws. And it would be the most reasonable explanation.

Unless you want to see him as a loose cannon funded by Wang, and teaming with Nena whom brothers he killed...

Well, it's also a fact that Ali's machine has red GN particles, not the orange GN particles that A-Laws MS produce.

[Sides]

Originally Posted by kari-no-sugata

Setsuna then gets into Exia and wipes out all the auto-robots and charges through the group of Aheads (taking an arm). However, the damaged Exia is no match for multiple Aheads and is saved by the arrival of Tieria. The Ahead commander guy has to drag off Louise who is suffering from a headache - and interestingly, it seems that Ribbons can see through her eyes. He comments that this is nice since she now has a reason to fight.

I was wondering about that. Is Ribbons is linked with Louise, or actually connected to all Arrows MS, kind of like veda.

[Kelrys]

Louise is a normal girl as seen in s1, that is unless Ribbons implant some chip into her during the 4 years of her training.

[C.A.]

Originally Posted by Wesley84

I'm watching the raw.

People should just wait for subs first, really.

The facility where Saji is sent to, is a high artificial gravity plant. 5Gs of artificial gravity is generated by centrifugal force. Its basically a concentration camp of sort and the prisoners are forced to do hard labour. The facility is pressurised and so peopel can breathe without oxygen tanks, meaning guns can be fired as well.

Oh and about bridge bunnies being cute, in Japan its actually a form of manners and being cute for the ladies is being polite. There are more to it, wearing make-up is also a form of politeness, as it shows that the girl is well groomed and wants to present her best.

Its the country's tradition. And since anime is spoken in Japanese, the bridge bunny being cute is just a form of expression of politeness.

EDIT: Well for Louise, we've seen that she has contact with Regena, its highly possible that it was Livonze who gave her the cybernetic arm and in exchange be Livonze's spy/eyes.

[Kelrys]

How long for an average quality sub to appear on the net?

[nexocentric]

Originally Posted by dom33

agreed.

no but he's a prisioner, Hallejulah is gone, and his friend Marie is an enemy so he dosen't have alot to smile about.

great episode my only problem with it was everyone saying other character's full names.

The character full name thing comes from way back in the day when the did it in Mobile Suit Gundam. It's like a gundam staple;

Man I loved Tieria and his suit in the first season... but in this second season... I think they might be making a dire mistake. If anyone noticed, there's something that looks like a big gundam head on the back of his suit..... if they go power rangers with as serious a story as this i'm going to flip out!

[finalnight]

Alright Sunrise, another excellent anime beginning. This is your last chance to actually pull off a decent mecha ending since you botched Wing, Seed, Destiny, R1, Stargazer, R2. Nice to see another Uverworld opening, I still remember that epic 2nd opening of Bleach.

[AnymX]

Originally Posted by Kelrys

How long for an average quality sub to appear on the net?

It takes from 8 to ~n hour's to sub an episode.

[digi.amuro]

Great first episode. It was fastpaced, action pacted, and alot of good subplots. Saji still annoys me, Badass Battle-scarred Exia is Badass, and Seravee looks a heck of alot better in motion, and nice op. My expectations were met and exceeded. Looking forward to subs and next episode.

BTW, has the extended episode 2 preview come out yet?

[killer3000ad]

Spoiler:

Awesome first episode, just one thing though.... NO PATRICK! They showed practically everyone who survived from season 1 except Patrick and his tomboyish commander. Here's hoping he'll make an appearance later.