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Old 2017-12-22, 20:14   Link #38861
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I have an idea that's inspired from the Migration Period during the Late Antiquity.

Some times after the Mariage Incident, the border worlds of the Time-Space Administrative Bureau are greeted by flotilla of ships. Ships filled with refugees. The refugees tell stories on how their worlds are ransacked by some fleet of warships and they had to evacuate from them.

At first, the Bureau gladly accept the refugees. However, as more and more ships come, the Bureau finds itself overwhelm and finally had to refuse them until they can reorganize to handle the problems better.

Thing is, situation is heating up at both inside and outside. Inside, the settled refugees had to compete with the locals and thus offered to work with lower wages. This caused strife between the locals and the refugees. There are also some culture clashes. Outside, the refused refugees grow impatient and start to become violent.

In the end, the Bureau finds itself need to handle many problems; the refugees inside the border and the local population are clashing with each other, the refugees outside the border threaten to forcefully enter the Administrative Worlds, chaos in both military and administration due to the problems, and the same fleet that ransacked the homes of the refugees are sailing closer to the TSAB.

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Old 2017-12-23, 04:42   Link #38862
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I like the idea: it would a great deal to show how just logistic can provide an enermous challenge. Not to say, it's a problem where our heroes just can't rely on their pew-pew beams, without wrecking their owm morals.

And there is a mysterious fleet...
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Old 2017-12-23, 10:46   Link #38863
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Alright. I have made three protagonists from the refugees. I plan that they will be the ones who interact with MGLN characters the most.
  • Alaric: The young king of the Gethic. Alaric and his people came from the small Gethic Kingdom consisted of half a dozen planets. However, the Gethic had to abandon their planets after the mysterious fleet arrived, destroyed most of their navy, ransacked their planets, and enslaved many of their kin.

    During their journey to the TSAB, his father was killed when the Gethic clashed with other refugees. Being the sole heir, Alaric inherited the throne. His ambition is to make sure his people could once again have the lives that the mysterious fleet took from them.
  • Theodora Aurelius: An officer of the Lexians. Theodora is one of the few surviving officers that managed to escape from the mysterious fleet alongside a small percentage of the population of Lexia. The majority of Lexians are enslaved by the mysterious fleet.

    Lexians are among the first refugees that the TSAB allowed to enter the border. With the rising tension between the locals and the refugees, Theodora had to ensure her people manage to survive through the turmoils.
  • Dee Jay: An aide of an officer of the Anarchians, though later become the liaison between the Anarchians and the TSAB thanks to being fluent in both languages without the aid of translator.

    Dee Jay, like many Anarchians, is one heck of pragmatist. He once suggested sacking a city after the local government only give them a fraction of food that they need. This doesn't come true after said government finally give them the amount of food that they need.

The characters most of the time represent their respective alignments; lawful (Theodora), neutral (Alaric), and chaotic (Dee). Whether their actions are good or bad depend on who judge them.

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Old 2017-12-23, 17:25   Link #38864
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Scale? You are talking cities, planets etc? How many people are we talking about?

It really can't be the ENTIRE population of a world because simply you can't WALK away from a world. You likely either need ships or LOADS of mages with a knack for travelling to transfer the entire population. And you likely don't have the first.

You might be hammering the historical parallel WAAAAAYYY too closely, with names and whatnot. And after all, despite all possible corruption, TSAB is HIGHLY unlikely to bungle the refugee crysis as much as Romans did, what with ratcheting up the prices of food for their own gain to the point where Goths had to sell their own children into slavery.

Secondly, if it's a reasonable amount of cargo ships that SOMEHOW escaped in time with some of the population, that shouldn't be that hard to solve given that TSAB is doing ongoing colonization efforts. So SPACE per say should not be the issue nor the tension with the locals when you can drop them on the other side of planet.
On the other hand that colonization effort is likely to be a rush job and kinda a shit show, but then again given the possible crazy situations with LL that they might have gotten in before, I'm would not be surprised to learn they have protocols for migrating large amounts of people to a new world. And any problem there is largely down to time, not down to TSAB not being able to do it.
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Old 2017-12-23, 17:52   Link #38865
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Scale? You are talking cities, planets etc? How many people are we talking about?

It really can't be the ENTIRE population of a world because simply you can't WALK away from a world. You likely either need ships or LOADS of mages with a knack for travelling to transfer the entire population. And you likely don't have the first.

You might be hammering the historical parallel WAAAAAYYY too closely, with names and whatnot. And after all, despite all possible corruption, TSAB is HIGHLY unlikely to bungle the refugee crysis as much as Romans did, what with ratcheting up the prices of food for their own gain to the point where Goths had to sell their own children into slavery.

Secondly, if it's a reasonable amount of cargo ships that SOMEHOW escaped in time with some of the population, that shouldn't be that hard to solve given that TSAB is doing ongoing colonization efforts. So SPACE per say should not be the issue nor the tension with the locals when you can drop them on the other side of planet.
On the other hand that colonization effort is likely to be a rush job and kinda a shit show, but then again given the possible crazy situations with LL that they might have gotten in before, I'm would not be surprised to learn they have protocols for migrating large amounts of people to a new world. And any problem there is largely down to time, not down to TSAB not being able to do it.
At the most several millions people. I based the refugees fleets and the mysterious fleet on the Migrant Fleet from Mass Effect.

And yes, it's not the entire population. The rest of the population are either die or being forced to join the mysterious fleet. The refugees used almost all kind of ship, not only transport ships, but also warships and cargo ships to evacuate from their homes, and that's still not enough for most of their population.

I admit I am not creative when it comes to names and very likely would based them on cultures on Earth. Like they said, write what you know. Also, considering how the situation in Europe with the influx of refugees from Africa and Middle East, there's still a possibility for the TSAB to face problems in dealing with refugees.

Indeed. It's not that the TSAB is not being able to do it, bur rather the time. However, the refugees are growing impatient with how long the TSAB is going to make them wait.

There's also the problems that the refugees bring to the locals, whether deliberately or not. Some of the cultures clashes caused rather severe damage, competition between the refugees and the locals in taking the available jobs, some of the refugees are not nice people and the locals blame the whole of them, administrative chaos, and more.

Basically, can the TSAB solved the refugee crisis? Yes. Can they do that without causing an incident? No.
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Old 2017-12-23, 21:10   Link #38866
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One thing to keep in mind is that on Mid-childa itself, the planet is not full settled. There's still a lot of frontier to colonize.
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Old 2017-12-24, 04:23   Link #38867
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One thing to keep in mind is that on Mid-childa itself, the planet is not full settled. There's still a lot of frontier to colonize.
Yeah, but obviously you can't just can grab some refugees, put them in an empty place, and call it a day.

You need to make sure the refugees are protected from exposure, have access to food and water, good sanitation, etc.
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Old 2017-12-24, 12:44   Link #38868
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Indeed, and that's why it's called logistic nightmare. But at least, refugees have their own ships to move.

Still ,creating a new settlements and all necessary infrastructure would require an uttery hideous amount of funds and materials. And THIS can be a primary reason for the conflict
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