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2014-08-09, 17:44 | Link #34482 | |
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For example, people who are against redefining marriage are sometimes considered hateful (and I don't deny that some of them do seem to display some degree of hatred), but is the act of taking that position enough of a qualification to lump them together with people who actually wish harm on those with a different sexual preference/identity? To put it more generally, is the act of opposing some position enough to identify one as an extremist on the basis of some idea of hate? I think when people like to throw around pejoratives against other people, the semantics actually becomes more important. |
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2014-08-09, 17:45 | Link #34483 | |
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Jokes aside, there are only few real extremist religions/sects/cults in existence, like perhaps "Satanism". Aside from that, it is usually a minority of people of a non-extremist religion that are the actual extremists. But sometimes the number of those extremists can reach very high numbers for certain reasons. In the case of the Muslims we have the "fight against America and the West who are the cause of all poverty in the middle east". For Christianity we had the Inquisitions and even more importantly the Crusades in the past. It uses a snowball effect of "your neighbour does it, so you should as well!" But in the end it is all just an excuse for violence. It is easier to slaughter innocent people when you think that it is "just" and you gain 72 virigins for a suicide attack. I am sure a lot of people were actually against it, but were "pressured" into joining that "holy war" and after some time, the conditioning kicks in and the person would probably even kill his own family "for the cause"...
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2014-08-09, 22:29 | Link #34485 | |
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Yeah, but there's different degrees of "truth," in this context, like how Islam accepts Jesus as a prophet but not the Messiah, or how Christianity accepts the Torah but disagrees with Judaism that the Messiah has come. Since they disagree, you could say they consider each other "false," but I'd say it's more like they consider certain issues false as opposed to the entire religion. Then within all of the major world religions there are of course various denominations/sects that branch off from certain shared tenets with differences such as all the different Christian denominations or the many forms of Buddhism.
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If Islam does, most of the other Abrahamic religions do. They are from the same book after all; just rewritten in another language and form, bits and pieces excluded here and there for all purposes. Quote:
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I do believe in opinion as an entitlement. If you want someone to give up his entitlement, you better come up with good reasoning to do so. Agreement can be subjective because sometimes, people can agree in parts but disagree with the whole picture, and vice-versa. Islamic State militants tell 300 Yazidi families: convert or die Quote:
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2014-08-10, 10:15 | Link #34488 | |
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But, it's as you say. When it comes to extremism, religion is used as nothing more than a means to justify violence and bigotry. The sad part is that most people actually believe that their destructive actions are just. As Steven Weinberg once said: With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil — that takes religion. Have you watched Gundam 00? Just wondering. This bit is something that screams Gundam 00 to me.
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2014-08-10, 12:42 | Link #34489 | |
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How often do you actually see someone who do ?? "I am against gay marriage." "wow, you are so extreme !" Not even on Internet have I ever witnessed something like that. Like I would only find those by specifically googling them, but never come upon them naturally in several other politics forums that I frequented. But are you sure you are not blowing this semantic issue out of proportion by some overreaction of a small minority of population ? Last edited by maplehurry; 2014-08-10 at 13:18. |
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2014-08-10, 14:01 | Link #34490 | |
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But in the end the affected one does not give a damn about the "reasons". The jews killed in the 2nd WW, the witches burned on the stakes in the Middle Ages, the victims from terrorist bombings. No matter if the victims were killed due to "religions" or "ideologies", in the end most of the surviving friends and relatives of the victims did surely never say "well they did it for what they thought is right, it was all due to circumstances, wrong place, wrong time, what a tragedy", but rather "OMG THOSE BASTARDS! KILL THEM ALL! MAKE THEM PAY! REVENGE!" But sometimes time could lessen the effects enough for the perpetrators, or rather the "grunts", to be forgiven for not having a backbone to refuse their orders (like the Germans after WW2), but that does not always apply.
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Israelis, Palestinians begin new talks to end Gaza war
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2014-08-11, 18:31 | Link #34493 | |
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R.I.P. Peter Pan (I actually enjoyed that movie). |
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2014-08-12, 02:16 | Link #34495 |
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As though there wasn't already enough trouble with the ISIS situation .......
Power struggle on Baghdad streets as Maliki replaced but refuses to go: "Iraq's president named a new prime minister to end Nuri al-Maliki's eight-year rule on Monday, but the veteran leader refused to go after deploying militias and special forces on the streets, creating a dangerous political showdown in Baghdad." See: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0G808J20140811 |
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