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Old 2010-09-22, 17:41   Link #41
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-Edited for clarification Rahan.

-That being said, am I the only one peeved that Konan died without losing her Akatsuki cloak? I mean, I know I'm being petty, but this was the best opportunity to showcase the "real" Konan that lies under that cloak. Yeah I know one of the artbooks shows it, but this would have been a bit more significant time to have it presented.
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Old 2010-09-22, 18:00   Link #42
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i knew it...its the masks that give madara is powers...
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Old 2010-09-22, 18:04   Link #43
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Old 2010-09-22, 19:17   Link #44
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-That being said, am I the only one peeved that Konan died without losing her Akatsuki cloak? I mean, I know I'm being petty, but this was the best opportunity to showcase the "real" Konan that lies under that cloak. Yeah I know one of the artbooks shows it, but this would have been a bit more significant time to have it presented.
Kishi could pull an Alice Cooper on us and make a Cold Ethyl out of Konan...Completely wrong, but completely acceptable, if remotely allowed...After all, necro is a recurring theme that runs around the Three Ameskateers...So what's in a moral anyway? There's no one alive to care if the dead's diary is looked at...

But of course I wouldn't condone it, I'm just presenting it...
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Old 2010-09-22, 19:37   Link #45
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Her what ?
her exsistance, meaning her.. her life.. her body =\ Thought everyone knew what "Presence" ment

oh yes.. almost forgot
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Old 2010-09-22, 20:39   Link #46
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That's kinda of what I'm guessing right now. But why Madara would actually give away his own personal tools makes little sense...
Well there could a twist, Madara could have given his eyes to Nagato, not his brother's. Used Nagato as a petri dish body to nurture life back into his original set of eyes.
Or perhaps he needed a substitute, another Rikudou beside himself to be used for something he wouldn't do, we know he wanted Nagato to use Rinne Tensei for something.
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Old 2010-09-23, 01:22   Link #47
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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.

That is all. That panel looked so ******* sad.
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Old 2010-09-23, 01:53   Link #48
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Oh no madara is going down the aizen path!!!!!!
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Old 2010-09-23, 02:16   Link #49
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Just read the scans.
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Old 2010-09-23, 02:38   Link #50
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even Kishi is bored with Naruto that wrote a one-shot?

So sad about Konan, but hell, this is Naruto after all. Madara is starting to pissing me off, all his effort for what... he will share Aizen' path soon or later
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Old 2010-09-23, 02:55   Link #51
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Been a while since I posted anyway I like Madara's new look. I wanted Konan to live, but having her die directly by the hand of Madara gives him villain credibility. I pray Kishi does not take Madara down the path of Aizen. In Bleach Aizen went from a bad ass villain into and overpowered butterfly (shakes head). It seems we get to see some more Madara fighting and some Kabuto action. Does anyone know where I can read the translated script form of each chapter ?
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Old 2010-09-23, 02:58   Link #52
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Old 2010-09-23, 03:04   Link #53
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Awww... KonanxYahiko. So cute. One of the few confirmed pairings this manga has.

I like how he implied it without drawing it, edging closer to each other. That was really sweet.
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Old 2010-09-23, 03:26   Link #54
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It still does not make sense if Madara gave a rinnegan eye to a weak child who was living in a war zone and every day there was a risk of losing him and the precious eyes too. The other possibility is that Madara was there the whole time, but there's a big problem with that: why would he let Nagato be under Jiraiya's influence? why would Jiraiya never notice Madara's presence? Why would Madara risk Nagato's life instead of helping him and teaching him instead? Why would he let Nagato almost die against Hanzou+Danzou? So i think there's no way that Madara was looking after Nagato secretly for all those years. It just wouldn't make sense.

So i think the most reasonable possibilty is that Madara searched for all possible Uzumaki and Senju descendant children that are scattered around the world and secretly implanted (he can use genjutsu so that children don't remember anything) in them many of the sharingan eyes (maybe even his own EMS eyes?) from his collection. And he waited to see if their body would interact (eyes=yin half, body=yang half) with the eyes and thus the eyes would evolve into rinnegan. That way he can say that he gave them their eyes, but also we can say that he never had the rinnegan himself, he just used the children to create the rinnegan.
Agreed. Kakashi also said (not that he could know such info) that the Rinnegan is just a mutation. Moreover, it seemed like Nagato as a child didn't know himself why he had the Rinnegan. If Madara had literally given them to him, he would have known. Which is why I think that Madara set things up before Nagato's birth, either according to the mutation theory in the quote, or just because a Senju and an Uchiha had a child. But in that case, Nagato's parents must be a Senju and an Uchiha, which is fine, because in the anime his mom had red hair and his dad black. But then, they were so easily killed by two Konoha shinobi using kunai. I don't know about his mother, but is it really possible for an Uchiha to get beat so easily?

As for Madara's mask, it appears like the bottom tomoes are his eye-holes, then the big dot in the middle is where his forehead is, and the top tomoe is where his hair starts. I liked the previous mask better, but this is okay too.
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Old 2010-09-23, 03:35   Link #55
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Agreed. Kakashi also said (not that he could know such info) that the Rinnegan is just a mutation.
Exactly. The Rinnegan is a legend. There's no reason to believe what he said.

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Moreover, it seemed like Nagato as a child didn't know himself why he had the Rinnegan. If Madara had literally given them to him, he would have known.
Depends entirely on whether he gave them by implanting them or through other means.

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Which is why I think that Madara set things up before Nagato's birth, either according to the mutation theory in the quote, or just because a Senju and an Uchiha had a child. But in that case, Nagato's parents must be a Senju and an Uchiha, which is fine, because in the anime his mom had red hair and his dad black. But then, they were so easily killed by two Konoha shinobi using kunai. I don't know about his mother, but is it really possible for an Uchiha to get beat so easily?
They could just be adoptive parents. I don't think the parents are a dead-end in itself. Kishi can give us any explanation he wants to justify Nagato having the Rinnegan without knowing they came from Madara.
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Old 2010-09-23, 03:42   Link #56
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Madara's new mask reminds me of



Someone can just photoshop a Sharingan there.
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Old 2010-09-23, 03:52   Link #57
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Madara just turned into a hollow. Kishi are you raeding Bleach? Did you saw what happenes to bad guys after they have new forms?
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Old 2010-09-23, 05:11   Link #58
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You gotta give it to Kishi, he sure knows to write a story, even for the side characters. It's sad and yet fulfilling to see the Yahiko, Konan, and Nagato trio come to full circle and then to a close. Having Jiraiya included in the mix is just icing to the cake that adds just that bit more refined tearjerker touch.

As for Madara, his new mask looks much cooler... although his goal of going after the nine-tails now raises red death flags for him. It makes me wonder though about the roles that Sasuke and Kabuto's role will play. I can smell betrayal in the air... but who will come out on top?
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Old 2010-09-23, 05:52   Link #59
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^lolwut?

Anyways why wasn't Sasuke with Madara? This is like Madara's crowning achievement. You think he'd celebrate/scheme with his only clanmate.
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Old 2010-09-23, 05:57   Link #60
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Kishi stated in a confirmed interview that the last fight would be that of sasuke vs naruto... I know this is very sadding as a lot of people would rather see Naruto + sasuke vs Madara... But apparently its gonna be Naruto vs Madara and then Naruto vs sasuke...

@ shiryuu Madara is not including sasuke in this because he still doesn't fully trust him and because he is recuperating from his eye surgery
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