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View Poll Results: Psycho-Pass - Episode 13 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 18 | 30.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 26 | 43.33% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 23.33% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 1.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.67% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2013-01-24, 08:06 | Link #141 |
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Latent criminals = trouble makers:
non-conformists, revolutionaries, activists, people who question authority, high strung people, libertarians, ambitious people, greedy people. People live in a police state where order hinges on a formula and a computer system. Society for the benefit of the silent majority, geared towards maximizing productivity, and reducing conflict. What to us would seem as normal people (latent criminals) are persecuted and associated with genuine sociopaths, psychopaths, murderers, mobsters, and the "criminally insane." All it takes to become a latent criminal is to get caught getting too idealistic, angry at society. You can get there by getting too depressed, not even to the point of a nervous breakdown. A nervous breakdown gets you executed, even if you aren't going to harm anyone. |
2013-01-24, 09:35 | Link #142 |
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^You're leaving out the part where they will eventually end up committing some kind of crime and the psycho pass is there to prevent that from happening.
Not everyone with a high CC gets executed either. Just when they're abnormally high. That doesn't happen all the time you know? Just because it happens every other episode doesn't mean it always happens. The amount of asploded people is still in the single digits. Out of a population of millions, that's rather insignificant. |
2013-01-24, 10:05 | Link #143 | |
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2013-01-24, 11:06 | Link #144 | |
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Makishima is definitely a non-conformist and someone who questions authority. In some ways, you could also call him "ambitious". Yet he has a low Psycho-Pass reading. I think that what the psycho-pass readings are measuring is emotional and "moral" strength. It measures how psychologically strong and firm in one's convictions a person is. Now, I should clarify what I mean by "psychologically strong". Kougami, for example, maintained impressive calm during the confrontation with the Cyborg Hunter. There's a certain toughness to Kougami's psyche, to be sure. But by "emotional strength", I mean people that are not merely able to stay calm under intense danger and pressure, but people that are optimists at heart; people who's happiness can't be shaken for too long by even the most traumatizing of events. But you are right to a degree - I get the sense that simple depression will raise your Psycho-Pass considerably, and an outright nervous breakdown will get you killed. There is a certain culling of various personality types going on here, slowly and steadily over time.
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2013-01-25, 03:32 | Link #145 | ||
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What so different about guys like? It's probably that they think themselves superior and see people as inferior to them. He's a true sociopath/psychopath. He has no remorse, regret, empathy. He sees humans as animals, lab rats. This sort of detachment is what probably makes him unreadable. Unlike Rina and the resistance movement breeding in the underground, Makishima doesn't seem to be rebelling against order or even fighting to free the world. I'm not even sure Makishima is ambitious. He seems to play the observer for now and avoids the spotlight. Quote:
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2013-01-25, 13:02 | Link #146 | |
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2013-01-25, 19:13 | Link #147 | |
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Actually, they don't commit crimes at all. The Sibyl system just deems them dangerous and they get committed. Latent criminals are called latent criminals because they haven't committed any crimes yet. They're "potential" criminals... not actual ones. My guess is that most will never ever commit a crime, would have never committed a violent crime. The Sibyl system doesn't care... it's in place to reduce risk, maximize order. |
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2013-01-25, 19:40 | Link #148 | |
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And this is one of the core reasons why the Sibyl system itself is wrong, imo.
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2013-01-25, 21:21 | Link #149 | |
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You have no way of saying the captured people will never commit a crime. Well, they probably never will, since they will either be locked up or treated. |
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2013-01-27, 13:32 | Link #150 | ||
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How likely a criminal is to re-offend is often taken into account in decisions regarding incarceration. The psycho-pass quantifies this likelihood of such violations ahead of the first offense. Is that worse? In a sense, perhaps, but it seems to me either way you're making decisions about a person's fate based on your best available guess of what might happen in the future. Sybil is only troubling because no such technology exists, and if it did, we would (rightfully) mistrust its lofty claims of infallibility. Am I completely nuts, here? It seems to me that Sibyl is monstrous to us because it takes what already exists and drives it a step further away from the stabilizing influence of human compassion by adding an additional layer of automation, not because it creates a completely alien social structure. The automation, the presumption of guilt is what we find revolting, as well we should. |
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The Sibyl system does away with that because it's not even determining innocence or guilt in any one particular case. What it's doing is essentially playing the odds. One could be completely innocent of ever committing a serious offense, and still get locked up on mere potentiality alone. That is rather different from any law enforcement system that I'm personally familiar with. Quote:
If a person steals my wallet, the impact on me is the same regardless if that thief is a poor beggar from a broken home or a wealthy man. Either way, I'm out a wallet, and all the contents in it. Either way, I've been robbed and I've been wronged. And it's important for society to provide deterrence against such criminal behavior, and that's where fines and jail sentences come into play. Quote:
With a criminal in the world of Sybil, he may have committed no crime at all, so there might be nothing for him/her to feel remorse over. In fact, that raises a tough question, in my mind: How do you rehabilitate a criminal who's not actually a criminal? What exactly do you rehabilitated him/her to?
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