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TigerII · 2008-11-03, 10:50

Seriously, in close range, a martial artist might fight one soldier, but in reality there are no martial artist and strong, fast, etc as the master in this. Seeing as how soldiers move in squads, the martial artist might get one, but would fall to the others.

And against an APC, Tank, or Helicopter...no, just no. lol

ultimateking · 2008-11-03, 13:59

then u might wanna read something else and stop with hsdk because it's getting more unrealistic later on...

TigerII · 2008-11-03, 14:06

I said it was getting unrealistic 200 chapters ago. I am still reading it aren't I? I enjoy it. A lot of manga are unrealistic, I still enjoy them. I was just refuting the point about a martial artist in a real combat situation. I know many don't want to hear it, but the gun in all its forms, rules the battlefield. This is just a fun little manga I like to read.

servidor · 2008-11-03, 16:24

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Spoiler for spoiler:

I might be wrong, but from one raw chapter I saw, this girl remind me of Kawazoe Tamaki from "Bamboo Blade", being a prodigy at martial arts, shy or rather introverted and it seems that Kenichi is showing a "little sister" complex too, trying to break her shell.

ultimateking · 2008-11-03, 17:30

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I might be wrong, but from one raw chapter I saw, this girl remind me of Kawazoe Tamaki from "Bamboo Blade", being a prodigy at martial arts, shy or rather introverted and it seems that Kenichi is showing a "little sister" complex too, trying to break her shell.

ah well she isn't really shy, she feels like a superior being, looking down on everyone else

HayashiTakara · 2008-11-03, 18:15

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ah well she isn't really shy, she feels like a superior being, looking down on everyone else

"lost...? to.. an inferior being?!" lol, I couldn't help myself... cookie for anything that figures this out.

incube · 2008-11-03, 18:20

I like that Fortuna guy =D He doesnt seem that bad if you compare him with Kenichi's masters... i mean the sp were crying about having a hard time and that was with only one master class over them.... The only reason Ryouzanpakou doesnt seem evil is because of Kenichi's inhuman endurance

NoLongerSane · 2008-11-03, 19:08

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

"lost...? to.. an inferior being?!" lol, I couldn't help myself... cookie for anything that figures this out.

Tales of Symphonia quote when you beat up one of the regular soldiers.

On topic, is the master for Chikage related to her in one way. I remember reading that somewhere that that little girl was related to her master. Also, I like that fact the Kenichi is treating her like a little sister in order not to fight her, though Mui was getting jealous at the fact that the attention that normally goes to her was now being spent on that girl.

HayashiTakara · 2008-11-03, 19:11

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Originally Posted by NoLongerSane

Tales of Symphonia quote when you beat up one of the regular soldiers.

On topic, is the master for Chikage related to her in one way. I remember reading that somewhere that that little girl was related to her master. Also, I like that fact the Kenichi is treating her like a little sister in order not to fight her, though Mui was getting jealous at the fact that the attention that normally goes to her was now being spent on that girl.

You are correct sir!~ here's a cookie ( :: )

Burner of Anime · 2008-11-03, 19:48

Any money down that the new girl is Akisame's love child

? Certainly has all the marks of that guy there with the aikido, head power and stoicisms. Would also add to the drama.

Amirali · 2008-11-03, 21:44

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Originally Posted by TigerII

Seriously, in close range, a martial artist might fight one soldier, but in reality there are no martial artist and strong, fast, etc as the master in this. Seeing as how soldiers move in squads, the martial artist might get one, but would fall to the others.

And against an APC, Tank, or Helicopter...no, just no. lol

The APC , Tank and Helicopter were definitely over the top. However, taking out the soldiers might have been plausible enough to suspend disbelief if the masters had stuck to using a squad formation, the advantage of surprise and their stealth-ninja skills. Still fun to watch their antics though

. As you say, realism isn't everything.

The Ryozanpaku masters' antics are comedy fodder at this point (very entertaining though). The disciples' fights have a much grittier, pseudo-realistic feel to them.

TigerII · 2008-11-04, 01:57

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Originally Posted by Amirali

The APC , Tank and Helicopter were definitely over the top. However, taking out the soldiers might have been plausible enough to suspend disbelief if the masters had stuck to using a squad formation, the advantage of surprise and their stealth-ninja skills. Still fun to watch their antics though

. As you say, realism isn't everything.

The Ryozanpaku masters' antics are comedy fodder at this point (very entertaining though). The disciples' fights have a much grittier, pseudo-realistic feel to them.

As I have said, I just have a hard time believing martial artist could take out several squads of men. Maybe a few men, maybe even a squad and a half, but the tech(Infrared and etc) would ultimately win. This is my opinion though. The only place martial arts have on a battlefield is a very close encounter with one enemy when out of ammunition, not enough time to bring the weapon up, or to silently take out sentries(Which is left largely to suppressed weapons).

ReddyRedWolf · 2008-11-04, 02:50

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As I have said, I just have a hard time believing martial artist could take out several squads of men. Maybe a few men, maybe even a squad and a half, but the tech(Infrared and etc) would ultimately win. This is my opinion though. The only place martial arts have on a battlefield is a very close encounter with one enemy when out of ammunition, not enough time to bring the weapon up, or to silently take out sentries(Which is left largely to suppressed weapons).

In old Japan the point of samurai running away while sllicing opponents one by one is to make the opponent not fight as a unit.

In that case a single man can take out several men.

TigerII · 2008-11-04, 09:39

And feudal Japan lost to a modern Japan if I remember correctly. The last time Samurai swords were used in combat was World War II. A sword and bravery do not beat a .30 caliber machine gun.

Like I said. This is my opinion, and I would rather not continue the discussion as it is off topic

ReddyRedWolf · 2008-11-04, 10:36

As much as Fortuna actually being a master class it makes me wonder if the gang can collectively take him down in their states.

Lol he even wanted Nijima as one of his children.

Amirali · 2008-11-04, 12:18

And Ukita STILL wasn't on his shopping list. Poor guy.

TigerII · 2008-11-04, 12:49

I feel bad for him as well. He is week, doesn't help much, and the girl he likes doesn't seem to like him. At least Kenichi is strong and does a lot.

Majek · 2008-11-04, 13:18

wow i started reading this a couple of days ago and just ate through 240 chapters

now i've got the last 13 or so chapters to go and since i'm not really paying that much attention to translation as long as i get a general meaning of what's going on, i don't think i'll pass up the opportunity

i tool while to get use to the art, ass and nipples especially but now i kinda like it.

guess i'll have another manga to keep me from studying in the coming weeks,months, years

LeaD36 · 2008-11-04, 15:06

kisara likes ukita pretty much, she´s just tsundere about it

NoLongerSane · 2008-11-04, 21:34

Ukita still can shine if given the chance. It is that he does not have a Master that is as monster level as Kenichi's. I have a feeling that he will get another chance of showing of his skill, though I think he will be sacrificed to Chikage to show off her skills. At least he has cemented his feeling with Kisara.

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TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	And feudal Japan lost to a modern Japan if I remember correctly. The last time Samurai swords were used in combat was World War II. A sword and bravery do not beat a .30 caliber machine gun. Like I said. This is my opinion, and I would rather not continue the discussion as it is off topic Last edited by TigerII; 2008-11-04 at 09:50.

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Majek Sm3rt teh M@d Jester Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SLB, Slovenia Age: 40	wow i started reading this a couple of days ago and just ate through 240 chapters now i've got the last 13 or so chapters to go and since i'm not really paying that much attention to translation as long as i get a general meaning of what's going on, i don't think i'll pass up the opportunity i tool while to get use to the art, ass and nipples especially but now i kinda like it. guess i'll have another manga to keep me from studying in the coming weeks,months, years __________________ "I cannot be caged! I cannot be controlled! Understand this as you die, ever pathetic, ever fools!" http://icandoit.mybrute.com - fight me !!

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TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	Seriously, in close range, a martial artist might fight one soldier, but in reality there are no martial artist and strong, fast, etc as the master in this. Seeing as how soldiers move in squads, the martial artist might get one, but would fall to the others. And against an APC, Tank, or Helicopter...no, just no. lol

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ultimateking Member Join Date: Oct 2008	then u might wanna read something else and stop with hsdk because it's getting more unrealistic later on...

2008-11-03, 14:06	Link #743
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	I said it was getting unrealistic 200 chapters ago. I am still reading it aren't I? I enjoy it. A lot of manga are unrealistic, I still enjoy them. I was just refuting the point about a martial artist in a real combat situation. I know many don't want to hear it, but the gun in all its forms, rules the battlefield. This is just a fun little manga I like to read.

2008-11-03, 18:20	Link #747
incube Dango Master IT Support Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Buenos Aires Argentina Age: 34	I like that Fortuna guy =D He doesnt seem that bad if you compare him with Kenichi's masters... i mean the sp were crying about having a hard time and that was with only one master class over them.... The only reason Ryouzanpakou doesnt seem evil is because of Kenichi's inhuman endurance

2008-11-03, 19:48	Link #750
Burner of Anime Illegal Additives Join Date: Jun 2004	Any money down that the new girl is Akisame's love child ? Certainly has all the marks of that guy there with the aikido, head power and stoicisms. Would also add to the drama.

2008-11-04, 10:36	Link #755
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	As much as Fortuna actually being a master class it makes me wonder if the gang can collectively take him down in their states. Lol he even wanted Nijima as one of his children.

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Amirali Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Over the rainbow. Age: 38	And Ukita STILL wasn't on his shopping list. Poor guy.

2008-11-04, 12:49	Link #757
TigerII Pilot in Training Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Earth	I feel bad for him as well. He is week, doesn't help much, and the girl he likes doesn't seem to like him. At least Kenichi is strong and does a lot.

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LeaD36 LeaDfactor Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hungary, Budapest Age: 33	kisara likes ukita pretty much, she´s just tsundere about it

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NoLongerSane Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Texas	Ukita still can shine if given the chance. It is that he does not have a Master that is as monster level as Kenichi's. I have a feeling that he will get another chance of showing of his skill, though I think he will be sacrificed to Chikage to show off her skills. At least he has cemented his feeling with Kisara.