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Aqua Knight · 2010-06-10, 01:25

So, basically, Aizen did to Ichigo the same that Ulqiorra tried to do , showing him the despair of non winning. Good chapter, especially, Isshin's "You gonna cry?"

kamyu · 2010-06-10, 02:09

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Originally Posted by Slayerx

Thing is though, since time does not pass in the Dangai, then doesn't that mean that "eventually" will never happen? They quite literally should have an indefinite amount of time

god i hate time travel physics

it is cut off from the outside world's flow of time, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the place doesn't have its own sort of time. the very fact that they can interact with each other (and usually the train thing) and that there is a progression of events means that there is some sort of sense of time in there.
so the 'eventually' is probably in dangai time, not our time.

Wiggy Fuzz · 2010-06-10, 02:15

it was all explained in the soul society arc - when the trio and yoruichi arrived at soul society (if i recall) 7 days in the past before they were originally supposed to entered the soul society, after they got chased by the train thing.

kamyu · 2010-06-10, 02:32

i wouldn't say "it was all explained." it was more of a "this happened because it did."
they never said what would happen if you stayed in there (aside from getting run over by a train ><).
however, yoruichi did say that the thing goes through once every 7 days (same amount they went back in time, like you said) so that could be our 'eventually.'
so they probably get a week before 'something bad' happens.

Haak · 2010-06-10, 04:59

Ichigo needing a pep talk was stupid, but the Aizen-Gin interactions more than made up for it. They were really good.

Thewanderer · 2010-06-10, 05:50

I have this theory. Ichigo is getting more and more of a whiny pussy because his hollow side is leeching out his badassery in favor of it's own. That's why when his hollow becomes moar awesome, Ichigo himself becomes more of a wimp.

^ just my $.02 :3

kitten320 · 2010-06-10, 06:46

You go Kubo, you made your own character act OOC... since when Ichigo is woried about power differnc? Ulquiorra also was stomping him in all senses yet he didn't get all depressed.

JustRob · 2010-06-10, 07:18

I hope KT will use this time to show what happened to every member of the Gotei 13. And what happened to URAHARA KISUKE, you know, the guy who would want revenge on Aizen more then anyone. Seriously, was it like "bye Kisuke, Yoruichi, we're going to SS"

Anyway, they better leave Aizen alone for now and focus on the other characters. You know, those people who filled the main roles in the past arc.

DragoZERO · 2010-06-10, 07:19

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Originally Posted by JustRob

I hope KT will use this time to show what happened to every member of the Gotei 13. And what happened to URAHARA KISUKE, you know, the guy who would want revenge on Aizen more then anyone. Seriously, was it like "bye Kisuke, Yoruichi, we're going to SS"

Anyway, they better leave Aizen alone for now and focus on the other characters. You know, those people who filled the main roles in the past arc.

They can't - he is already at Karakura Town. Maybe if he ended up in the middle of the Sahara Desert we'd have the time, but we don't, lol.

Langus · 2010-06-10, 07:26

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Originally Posted by JustRob

I hope KT will use this time to show what happened to every member of the Gotei 13. And what happened to URAHARA KISUKE, you know, the guy who would want revenge on Aizen more then anyone. Seriously, was it like "bye Kisuke, Yoruichi, we're going to SS"

Anyway, they better leave Aizen alone for now and focus on the other characters. You know, those people who filled the main roles in the past arc.

This manga is so poorly written that the majority of readers don't actually CARE about any of those other characters. Going back to see what happened to all of them would just be more pointless time wasting. But that seems to be Kubo's forte so you might get your wish.

My theory is that Ichigo is waffling because he has no one to fight for at the moment. He just has this big notion of "you have to save the world" shoved at him and he can't process it. He needs a damsel in distress. Think about it - every major fight Ichigo has ever been in where he has owned has involved him protecting or saving a girl - Rukia, Nel and Orihime. He can't function in battle unless it's with the express need of helping or saving someone.

DragoZERO · 2010-06-10, 07:30

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Originally Posted by Langus

This manga is so poorly written that the majority of readers don't actually CARE about any of those other characters. Going back to see what happened to all of them would just be more pointless time wasting. But that seems to be Kubo's forte so you might get your wish.

My theory is that Ichigo is waffling because he has no one to fight for at the moment. He just has this big notion of "you have to save the world" shoved at him and he can't process it. He needs a damsel in distress. Think about it - every major fight Ichigo has ever been in where he has owned has involved him protecting or saving a girl - Rukia, Nel and Orihime. He can't function in battle unless it's with the express need of helping or saving someone.

Wow, that's a good observation. He has always had a goal - to save a specific person. I guess he can't identify with the world as a whole. Well, I am glad he is suffering...since he left Inoue in Hueco Mundo.

Haak · 2010-06-10, 07:33

Can't he just put two and two together and realise that letting Aizen do anything is automatically putting his friends in danger? Is it just a little too much for us to expect his IQ to have more than one digit?

kitten320 · 2010-06-10, 08:09

Doesn't whole KT have enough misses in distress? Take same Tatsuki now...

Nite-Wing · 2010-06-10, 08:44

No ichigo is a whiny loser because he has no overall goal except his protecting people thing. Bleach as far as plot goes has no overall goal.

When the Villain has a reason to fight but the protagonist doesn't you end up with character derailment which is why we have Ichigo whining to his dad about not being able to beat Aizen.

AuroraFlash · 2010-06-10, 09:35

What did he mean by cut off from the other worlds? Did he want to tell us that this is the hyperbolic time chamber like... Ichigo can train there for ten years and arrive in Karakura Town about ten seconds later?

Marcus H. · 2010-06-10, 09:49

Instantly, not ten seconds after.
Though how that would work is pretty broken logic.

Kyero Fox · 2010-06-10, 11:31

I bet their gonna resume the battle between Byakuya/Kenpachi Vs 0

Wiggy Fuzz · 2010-06-10, 11:33

next chapter - kubo reveals ichigo was in the hyperbollic time tunnel for so long he came out looking like yamamoto. ishiin died of old age.

CuXe · 2010-06-10, 11:43

A new Getsuga Tensho..... really? LMAO....Kubo wouldn't last a day as a Southpark writer lol, I can't wait to see whats up ahead..... maybe Ichigo tries to show off his new GT and he ends up turning Momo's corpse into puree .... heck Aizen could even summon Hyori's sexy half and use it as a shield

kitten320 · 2010-06-10, 12:36

There won't be a switch in places, wehenver Kubo plans to switch to something else we always have at least one page dedicated to that area.

And why GT? Come on, everyone are already fed up of it!
Did Ishin use the final one? Doesn't look any better than others. If no, than Ishin is another dumbass who was cocky and didn't use full power... but than again he wasn't in bankai mode as many others... sad, really sad...

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Wiggy Fuzz Has balls of cast iron Join Date: Apr 2010	it was all explained in the soul society arc - when the trio and yoruichi arrived at soul society (if i recall) 7 days in the past before they were originally supposed to entered the soul society, after they got chased by the train thing. __________________ Law of Inherent Combustibility: Everything explodes. Everything.

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kamyu Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009	i wouldn't say "it was all explained." it was more of a "this happened because it did." they never said what would happen if you stayed in there (aside from getting run over by a train ><). however, yoruichi did say that the thing goes through once every 7 days (same amount they went back in time, like you said) so that could be our 'eventually.' so they probably get a week before 'something bad' happens. __________________

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Thewanderer Hiyori Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 42	I have this theory. Ichigo is getting more and more of a whiny pussy because his hollow side is leeching out his badassery in favor of it's own. That's why when his hollow becomes moar awesome, Ichigo himself becomes more of a wimp. ^ just my $.02 :3 __________________

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Aqua Knight Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Age: 31	So, basically, Aizen did to Ichigo the same that Ulqiorra tried to do , showing him the despair of non winning. Good chapter, especially, Isshin's "You gonna cry?"

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JustRob Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	I hope KT will use this time to show what happened to every member of the Gotei 13. And what happened to URAHARA KISUKE, you know, the guy who would want revenge on Aizen more then anyone. Seriously, was it like "bye Kisuke, Yoruichi, we're going to SS" Anyway, they better leave Aizen alone for now and focus on the other characters. You know, those people who filled the main roles in the past arc. __________________ The betrayal you can see is trivial. What is truly fearsome, is the betrayal you don't see.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Can't he just put two and two together and realise that letting Aizen do anything is automatically putting his friends in danger? Is it just a little too much for us to expect his IQ to have more than one digit? __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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Nite-Wing Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: MARS	No ichigo is a whiny loser because he has no overall goal except his protecting people thing. Bleach as far as plot goes has no overall goal. When the Villain has a reason to fight but the protagonist doesn't you end up with character derailment which is why we have Ichigo whining to his dad about not being able to beat Aizen. __________________

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AuroraFlash good-natured spirit Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dancing with the devil	What did he mean by cut off from the other worlds? Did he want to tell us that this is the hyperbolic time chamber like... Ichigo can train there for ten years and arrive in Karakura Town about ten seconds later? __________________

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kitten320 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007	There won't be a switch in places, wehenver Kubo plans to switch to something else we always have at least one page dedicated to that area. And why GT? Come on, everyone are already fed up of it! Did Ishin use the final one? Doesn't look any better than others. If no, than Ishin is another dumbass who was cocky and didn't use full power... but than again he wasn't in bankai mode as many others... sad, really sad... __________________ My anime list