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Old 2014-03-31, 16:02   Link #4201
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No i mean I thought xenovia was volume 19
jejeje I knew it, I'm just messing with you bub.
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Old 2014-03-31, 16:25   Link #4202
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Kinda knew that too bro
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Old 2014-03-31, 21:16   Link #4203
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Euclid didn't fought at full power so he could get information to impove the replica boosted gear.
Issei himself admited that he was weaker than Euclid, he was only able to endure the fight because of his wivern fairies (I think that's how it's called), because Euclid's Armor is inferior, and because, as I stated Euclid was holding back. In terms of raw power Euclid wins.
Those statements were said during the fight and the Gasper Balor chapter.

We don't know how the fight in Volume 17 went, so I'm not guessing anthing about it.
I hope we get a clearer idea of Issei's current power level in Life 1. Praises during training.
I already know how it went down in volume 17.

Don't make me argue with you on spoilers,just accept issei is stronger now.

Stronger than dragon king, stronger than the weaker end of evil dragons. On the level of ultimate and maou class devils.
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Old 2014-03-31, 21:45   Link #4204
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How can a dragon look like a tree?

In the old myth Ladon was a serpentine dragon.
And in the old myth, Grendel isn't a Dragon. Ofc, Ishibumi can change what characters, that he based in the myths, look like.

In the myth, Ladon guarded the tree that bore the golden apples of Hesperides.

So imagine the wood dragon used by Hashirama in Naruto (if he's an Eastern Dragon) or something like that.
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Old 2014-03-31, 21:48   Link #4205
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I already know how it went down in volume 17.

Don't make me argue with you on spoilers,just accept issei is stronger now.

Stronger than dragon king, stronger than the weaker end of evil dragons. On the level of ultimate and maou class devils.
We already know that. But you issei being op is kinda bad in the novel. Because think make a story boring and make it typical....

Lets say his power is on par on ultimate level. His technique is a mid low, and his stamina is par high class devil because he can't maintain his special armors like vali.

Lastly many enemies can point into his weakness even a dragon king can beat him via experience/technique not power. Power is not everything

To be a ultimate class devil you must technique and power in balance maybe in the few years/vols time we can see ultimate devil issei

Cao Cao beat him via technique only, we don't know what power did Cao Cao gain in the underworld but I guess it strong and might reach issei lvl

And we aren't sure how strong are dragon kings are especially the mysterious Tiamat when they are serious

Lastly don't judge a book by its cover

@jopjopjop what do you think Tiamat look like. I read somewhere that Tiamat look like a snake or something slender like a Chinese dragon maybe I wrong about it better search anything related to Tiamat
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Old 2014-03-31, 21:52   Link #4206
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And in the old myth, Grendel isn't a Dragon. Ofc, Ishibumi can change what characters, that he based in the myths, look like.

In the myth, Ladon guarded the tree that bore the golden apples of Hesperides.

So imagine the wood dragon used by Hashirama in Naruto (if he's an Eastern Dragon) or something like that.
I know the old story of Grendel and Ladon.

Now if its like the Wood Dragon from Naruto then I could actually picture that.
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Old 2014-03-31, 21:58   Link #4207
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@kusabi Unfortunately, there isn't anything about Tiamat except that she's blue. >.<
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Old 2014-03-31, 22:00   Link #4208
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@kusabi Unfortunately, there isn't anything about Tiamat except that she's blue. >.<
Ok let me search a bit about Tiamat, I really hope she appear the last dragon king"queen"
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Old 2014-03-31, 22:33   Link #4209
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i guess Ladon weaknes are fruit that grow in his body if he look like tree
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Old 2014-03-31, 22:36   Link #4210
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Spoiler for Ladon:
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Old 2014-03-31, 22:46   Link #4211
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by the way if Ladon really look like a tree is he capable breath a fire?. cause it seems very contrast imagine when he breath a fire and accidentally burn himself (lol)
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:14   Link #4212
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Spoiler for Ladon:
Hopefully there is more to him than just that, if that's it then he really is just another Grendel that happens to be Tree like.
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:16   Link #4213
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@jopjopjop

Tiamat in HS DxD
  • Tiamat is Female
  • Tiamat is Blue
  • Tiamat blended well in human world
  • Tiamat is the Strongest Dragon King ?????
  • Tiamat hate's ddraig
  • Tiamat is a strongest familiar ??????
  • Tiamat's title, the Chaos Karma Dragon, is derived from the fact that the mythological Tiamat is a chaos monster.
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So the similarity are:
  • She is Blue "due to the myth being a sea serpent/dragon"
  • Strongest dragon king "due to being goddess of ^"
  • She look like serpent ?????
  • She is the embodiment of primordial chaos blame ddraig for that
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:17   Link #4214
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oh. And about the earlier topic on what Issei's strength level is at right now, whether his more powerful than a Dragon King or not....

Spoiler:
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:17   Link #4215
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Spoiler for Ladon:
Holly mother of god, breaking his defence will be as hard as s**t
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:24   Link #4216
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I guess the author could use Dungeons and Dragons as a reference for Tiamat. Supposedly the game gave our Dragon Queen a bunch of heads, likely combining her with other dragons of legend, like Lotan (no, not Ladon, this guy was supposedly the pet of a god). That would be quite interesting to read about, though how a multi-headed dragon is living just fine in the world would be astounding. Actually, that might make for some humorous moments.

Other than that, a blue serpentine dragon? The Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation mythos, expressly mention she has "udders", so chances are our Dragon Queen will have massive breasts if she is humanoid. Just like every other female in the DxD world.
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:28   Link #4217
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I guess the author could use Dungeons and Dragons as a reference for Tiamat. Supposedly the game gave our Dragon Queen a bunch of heads, likely combining her with other dragons of legend, like Lotan (no, not Ladon, this guy was supposedly the pet of a god). That would be quite interesting to read about, though how a multi-headed dragon is living just fine in the world would be astounding. Actually, that might make for some humorous moments.

Other than that, a blue serpentine dragon? The Enuma Elish, the Babylonian creation mythos, expressly mention she has "udders", so chances are our Dragon Queen will have massive breasts if she is humanoid. Just like every other female in the DxD world.
And she will seduce issei so she can torment ddraig by singing that song to him
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:28   Link #4218
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Holly mother of god, breaking his defence will be as hard as s**t
nom@n did said that Cao Cao helped them by making the True Longinus appear and destroyed a barrier, right? here

I believe that barrier is Ladon's. (That's just my speculation.)
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:31   Link #4219
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nom@n did said that Cao Cao helped them by making the True Longinus appear and destroyed a barrier, right? here

I believe that barrier is Ladon's. (That's just my speculation.)
I think I see where this is going, Ise and Cao Cao team up against Ladon.

The author wouldn't have Cao Cao join DxD and not do a team up with Ise.
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Old 2014-03-31, 23:32   Link #4220
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the way i see Ladon right now it seems he more like inpenetrable fotress.
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