2017-01-06, 20:25 | Link #61 | |
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Still, those are good questions, I think, but perhaps they are not the best for this thread ... they might be better suited either for the LN thread because they could very easily touch on material not shown in the anime thus far, or with an individual poster via vm or pm. For now it might be best to keep the focus on the content of the first episode proper and not go too, too far afield in here.
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2017-01-06, 20:35 | Link #62 | |
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Flower, I can understand your liking the animation for its ugly-cute, ugly-war quality. Harry Dresden, the German sides really strikes me as Kaiserreich rather than Nazi, apart from the big red flags on the building. Soldiers even have spiked helmets. |
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2017-01-06, 20:47 | Link #63 | ||
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This is an army, not a bunch school students. Tanya actually went a very very peaceful way there, ordering them to go back in the country, where their insubordination could be dealt with without them endangering others, and at the end get some proper assets out of them. But those FOOLS refused that order AS WELL. There was no persuading them, they were refusing to listen to anything said by their commander. All Tanya could do was to get rid of them by putting them in a place where they won't endanger others. They died there? Too bad. if they didn't refuse to be sent back to begin with, that wouldn't happen. They CHOOSE DEATH and Tanya just complied giving them a chance to die without endangering others in the process. They said it themselves. That type of reckless soldier isn't going to live long enough to be an asset to anything or anyone. This is a darwin award here for them. Their own stupidity killed them. And it only killed them withotu killing anyone else, which is a good thing. Also, lol at the argument. They would have answered that they were saving men that were getting killed by the artillery, meaning that they were more useful that way. They had no intention to listen because they were persuaded even after all that that they did the right move and that their officer is a child who doesn't know a thing. Their value as it stands is null. You can't train a soldier who refuse to listen and disobey to do its own thing all the time. And in the current condition they're waging war, they don't have the time to spend to educate someone stubborn like that. So you push him away as a dangerous element to keep near you, and that's what she did. They refused that? Fine, go in that pilebox and try to survive there. Quote:
-This is NOT WW2. How many time will we need to say that? -There is NO NAZISM either. The whole uniforms are WW1 uniforms, so this is the german empire BEFORE NAZISM. There is no such ideology in there, and furthermore, in that parallel verse, Germany was ATTACKED rather than being attacked, so they're just defending their land. So not only it's not glorifying nazism, but it's not even glorifying military conquest either. Considering how harsh it's painting war, it's certainly not glorifying war either.
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2017-01-06, 21:25 | Link #64 |
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Just a little bit of trivia: The weapons which appear in episode 1:
Lebel 1886 rifle: Francois Republic infantry rifle Mauser Gewehr 98: Imperial infantry rifle Mondragon semi-automatic rifle: Imperial mage's rifle. Interesting fact, the Mexican-made Mondragon was sold to the Germans in real life, and actually saw service as the weapon rear-seat observers in airplanes before enough machine guns were available for the task. The weapon did not see much use in the trenches (contrary to what Battlefield 1 implies) as it proved unreliable when covered in mud. Thought it was interesting to see the Mondragon in a similar role in this alternate history. M1917 Fusil Automatic:: French semi-automatic rifle, never saw major combat. Francois republic mage's rifle in anime. It appears that mages are routinely armed with semi-automatic rifles, while infantry are still equipped with bolt-action. Vickers machine gun: Used by Francois Republic infantry. Odd considering in real life it was a British weapon. Kanone 16 150mm heavy field gun: Imperial artillery (I think). Last edited by SPARTAN 119; 2017-01-06 at 21:37. |
2017-01-06, 21:35 | Link #65 |
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I'm having a really huge deja vú, this thread is having the exact same shape as Nejimaki Seirei Senki: Tenkyou no Alderamin. People with different opinions while one or 2 users try to post their knowledge of the source.
Please guys, stop this bullshit. There is always people who don't share the same perspective and they have all the right to make their own ideas of what is this series showing here. Clarify things as someone who knows the source is alright but literally quoting everyone with a negative opinion and almost spoiling things to stomp on them is not healthy, unless we're talking about cancerous discussions like what constantly happened on Hibike thread. Last edited by AB079; 2017-01-06 at 21:52. |
2017-01-06, 23:16 | Link #67 |
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Episode 01
Liked the war parts. I expected more evil from Tanya, but throughout most of the episode she didn't do much. That was until she ran into the enemy mages. She pulverized them. The animation over there was pretty nice. And those explosions are something else entirely. And then it was revealed that she sent those two guys who pissed her off to that pillbox to get them killed. And then her face after her plan succeeded. That was what I wanted from this show. Looking forward to more awesome explosions and more evil loli. |
2017-01-07, 02:07 | Link #68 |
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While I'm not a fan of them just plunging head first into the story as opposed to starting it off like the novel or the manga, I still enjoyed it. (In some stories, starting right in the thick of things can be a great way to jump start a series and get the reader/viewer immediately invested. This is not one of those stories, imo.)
Maybe it's because I had a better idea of what I was getting into than someone who hasn't seen a drop of the source material? Either way, I was entertained. Yes, the character designs are inconsistent and some other frames look pretty stiff, but I've seen worse. The voice acting was also well done across the board.
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2017-01-07, 03:30 | Link #70 | |
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I don't know if the two idiots could have been retrained. On the one hand, taking a bunch of kids, a lot of whom rebellious and all of them idiots (because everyone is, at that age), and turning them into useful soldiers is what armies do. Even and especially in war time. And they were good enough to survive their own stupidity, so there's that. On the other hand, some people just won't learn. |
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2017-01-07, 04:03 | Link #71 |
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Well she is resourceful enough to not waste bullets of execution squad at least. Even if choice she make is wrong per se. It was still cruel and calculative. And if she continues get rid of everyone who oppose her in similar fashion calling her evil might not be inappropriate.
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2017-01-07, 04:04 | Link #72 | |
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And hey, that Tanya is supposed to be "Evil" is right there in the title. And who are we to argue with the title ? Still, I do find perplexing the signals sent by the show, I don't understand if the scene where she dealt with insubordination was supposed to show her as evil - and failed spectacularly, because the sadistic thing to do there would have been to shoot the soldiers in place personally - or instead to give us a perspective of her as harsh but not completely unreasonable. It seems ill-informed to expect anything but a severe punishment as a consequence of disobedience on the battlefield, especially in a situation where it was so pointless and was reiterated afterwards. And I'm not a war lover or anything, but if one has to look at how these things went in reality, well, she was probably more forgiving than a good chunk of real life WW1 officers.
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2017-01-07, 05:42 | Link #73 | |
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Light novel readers probably have a lot more detail on Tanya's thoughts and motivations so that her apparently sadistic, callous, over-authoritative anal-retentive character comes off as efficient and effective. I'll venture a guess that Tanya's POV in the novels asserts her own essential rightness, without deep self-criticism or self-doubt? That can be persuasive, but should invite reader criticism rather than deflect it; we don't have to regard her actions as correct or effective just because she does. For a start, as Babylon 5 put it, anyone who is always right can never learn. They are a static character; the story may be likeable enough if they are likeable, but if not...this is why Great Expectation is one of Dickens' best, and Nicholas Nickleby one of his worst. Ender's Game displayed some bearable characters similar to Tanya, because their success against truly imposing odds was based on thoughtful, evolving tactics and teamwork. If Tanya didn't have overpowering strength, or met something stronger than herself, she seems set to be killed by the character qualities she regards as strengths. Beating the odds would take imagination she hasn't displayed. Her squad would be no help, because she treats them as resources or tools, rather than trusting or developing their skills or decision-making ability. Where is Roy Mustang when you need him? Last edited by Ghostfriendly; 2017-01-07 at 05:58. |
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2017-01-07, 06:22 | Link #74 | |
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(If you're wondering whether the Japanese title really gives off the same connotations as "Little Girl War Chronicles" in English, it does. In fact, the author of the light novels noted in the afterword of the first novel that he thought the publishers were crazy for allowing him to publish his manuscript pretty much as is, with its title and content. On the content side, however, I will note that the series does rather defy its title; the author's concern was moreso regarding the novels being extremely dry and dense texts delving into topics such as military strategy, religion, and history.) Point being... y'all will be working too hard if you're really trying to interpret Tanya's character as evil, lol. (You could say the anime is also trying a bit too hard with stuff like that dramatic closing closeup of Tanya's expression, though -- playing up Tanya's "Evil"-ness as a viewer hook.) Basically, don't worry too much about it; the "evil" messaging is all pure marketing. ... Anyway, as to the episode itself: as a pretty big fan of the light novel and manga and a huge fan of Yuuki Aoi, I was looking forward to this a whole lot. Aoi-chan's performance still managed to surpass all expectations, though! This is gonna be freakin' great. Last edited by alt_account; 2017-01-07 at 06:33. |
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2017-01-07, 09:45 | Link #77 |
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果心堂 @kashindo 1h1 hour ago
幼女戦記戦況報告新聞によると、2話で一旦過去の話に戻るようですね。 Well accroding to newspaper report today, next episode they will do the flashback, just like my(and many people i believe) expectation. Btw the news paper looks pretty cool. https://twitter.com/youjosenki/statu...18584456499201 https://twitter.com/kashindo/status/817599260975693825 |
2017-01-07, 10:33 | Link #78 |
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As someone who read the LN and Manga, this anime left a very sour taste in my mouth.
I also feel like Studio NUT is pushing too hard on this "Hey Look! Look at the loli, she's soooo EDGY and EVIL! LOOK AT HER!" gig |
2017-01-07, 10:47 | Link #79 | |
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2017-01-07, 11:39 | Link #80 | |
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For those 2 soldiers who wanted to fight, they prob wouldn't have been sent home anyways as there was a shortage of personnel. They could have been sent to another unit where they would have died for the Fatherland in glory.
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