2013-01-28, 19:32 | Link #783 |
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The stuff with Halsey was pretty awesome, though I gotta shake my head a bit at the combat sequences
Did Lasky seriously rifle butt a 900+ pound giant armored pseudo robot and manage to stun it?
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2013-02-07, 19:53 | Link #791 |
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Does Palmer know the full history of Hasley's actions? I feel like she doesn't and I am surprise that even the Spartan IVS like Majestic didn't have any clue to who she was and was refereed to as a mad scientist.
All things consider, Halsey will get out of this situation one way or another. She is in contact with Librarian who probably gave her plenty of knowledge to keep the UNSC at bay. Though I am frighten by the thought of Chief finding out what the UNSC is doing to her, its going to be ugly if he does find out especially along with the other Spartan IIs aside from Naomi. |
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Though frankly, I never quite bought the supposed moral outrage everyone was experiencing over that. Is it a horrible human rights violation? Undoubtedly. But I'm not sure human rights violations are something that civilizations that have just come out of 28 years of xenocidal warfare are all that concerned about. I sorta wonder if they initially came up with the idea of Halsey becoming a bit of a blacksheep, but then Karen Traviss turned it up to 11. Quote:
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2013-02-08, 05:09 | Link #793 |
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Well I can understand Palmer's attitude towards Halsey. If she does fully know what Halsey did during the war, then all the more reason to dislike her.
Palmer is a career soldier who's conditioned, for the lack of a better word, to respect the chain of command. So Halsey represents the opposite of everything she stands for - disregarding authority, compromising operational integrity et al, regardless of her good intentions and what Forerunner loot she brought back from her little Onyx excursion which, by then, the war had already ended. Not to mention taking a bunch of Spartans with her when they were most needed for the war effort. I think it may help develop Palmer's character if it was revealed that she lost a lot of men during the war because she was promised Spartan backup and they didn't come cos Halsey took them. Last edited by Helius; 2013-02-08 at 07:44. Reason: typo |
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I think that's what pissed allot of older Halo EU fans off about the Karen Travis books. The way Halsey's detention was written came off as just a way for Traviss to soapbox how much she thought Halsey was a despicable person, while using a person who is arguably an even worse than Halsey as a mouth piece. And keep in mind. This is coming from somebody who WANTED Halsey to go under the grills a little for what she did.
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Maybe she didn't know they would be trapped, or maybe she did. As far as ONI was concerned she could've sabotaged the war effort if things took a turn for the worst. While I'm not advocating that how they treated Halsey was entirely justified, but with her being such a wild card who goes against the highest establishment and actually has the means to do so (embedding override codes inside Roland lol) I can see why they view her with contempt. |
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The problem is that they're treating her like she's satan because she took kids and turned them into spartans. Even worse is that the people that are treating her like that are the ones who benefited from her work. I mean how can you treat a person as a "mass murderer" when your using things that that one person created for you to use to your benefit? Quote:
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2013-02-08, 19:04 | Link #797 | |
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Based on the fact that Travis personally involved herself in online flame wars over how many Clone Troopers there were (her book said there were 3 million, people argued that was totally insufficient for fighting a galactic war), I'd say that's very likely.
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No. What personally irritates me about the setup? It's not that people call Halsey out on what she did. It's because all the people who call her out so vehemently are the same black ops "ends justifies the means" spooks. Parangosky okay'ed turning armies of orphaned kids into Spartans "for the greater good". Ossman went and propped up an Elite insurgency against the Elite faction that wanted to be friendly with humanity "for the greater good". And frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if Palmer carried out some downright dirty shit, "for the greater good" of course.
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Karen Travis vehemently got into arguments about how it made sense for an army of 3 million soldiers/spacers could fight an inter galactic war.
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2013-02-09, 18:10 | Link #800 |
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Though its a different discussion over the miscalculation of an author, but I wonder what people's thoughts are about the Spartan IVS after 8 episodes.
The Spartan IVs thus far are the first Spartans to be ever counted as Prisoner of War. Despite being active for, I think a few years (estimated guess) they accumulated some casualties already. I think if Kelly was present on the Infinity, I think she would be saying something like they are worse than twitchy when evaluating them. |
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