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Shadow5YA · 2012-05-16, 19:14

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

About the Yukiji discussion: I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't seem to be behaving as a good teacher because of our seeing only that specific side being portrayed. I mean, aside from Hina and Hayate, who else among the students she's seen interacting with are worthy of being considered as students?

With Izumi, she is seen trying to play a PSP when Hayate was sick.

Then there's the male teacher who likes her, Kaoru.

Other than back as a high school student, Yukiji hasn't really been given any redeeming factors. As someone stated before, desperately paying off their parents' debt probably broke her. Whatever she had going for her is gone now.

Mentar · 2012-05-16, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Luka's debt was mentioned before this chapter, and Yukiji hardly excels at being a teacher.

Yukiji managed to pay off a 151 million Yen debt "by questionable means". That's pretty freakish in my book. Just that you seem to loathe her doesn't make her any less of a great person.

And Hina has "overachiever" tattooed all over her body.

Anh_Minh · 2012-05-17, 03:44

And she managed to do it fast enough to not ruin Hina's childhood, too.

Shadow5YA · 2012-05-17, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Mentar

Yukiji managed to pay off a 151 million Yen debt "by questionable means". That's pretty freakish in my book. Just that you seem to loathe her doesn't make her any less of a great person.

And Hina has "overachiever" tattooed all over her body.

Did they ever say Yukiji paid off their debt entirely? I thought their current parents covered some of it when they adopted them.

And my point is that Yukiji was a great person. I thought the story made it obvious that she is a shadow of her former self.

Xellos-_^ · 2012-05-17, 23:57

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Did they ever say Yukiji paid off their debt entirely? I thought their current parents covered some of it when they adopted them.

it is all pay for.

their adopted parents only adopted them after the debts were pay back.

Sumeragi · 2012-05-18, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

And my point is that Yukiji was a great person. I thought the story made it obvious that she is a shadow of her former self.

I still think she is a great person, just that there is no longer any special reason to be great right now. Almost all of her students can do things by themselves or are stupid beyond help, so why do the extra effort?

Mentar · 2012-05-18, 07:40

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Did they ever say Yukiji paid off their debt entirely? I thought their current parents covered some of it when they adopted them.

No, it was Yukiji who paid it all back. They were adopted by the Katsuras later.

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And my point is that Yukiji was a great person. I thought the story made it obvious that she is a shadow of her former self.

How so? The way I can tell she was never really different, at least she was never shown to be different in the past.

There's one more thing I'd like to remind you of. It's Hina herself (who is about as mature and reasonable as it gets), who said that Yukiji is the person she respects most in the entire world (but cautioned Hayate never to tell her). Present tense, she STILL does, even with all drinking and money-spending notwithstanding.

So, in summary, she may be really crazy and flawed, but she's definitely still extraordinary.

Anh_Minh · 2012-05-18, 08:40

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

And my point is that Yukiji was a great person. I thought the story made it obvious that she is a shadow of her former self.

That would imply she's changed. She's, at worst, dormant. Give her a real reason to kick ass again, and she will.

GDB · 2012-05-19, 20:22

Spoiler for Chapter 363:

Shadow5YA · 2012-05-19, 22:47

I was wondering how long it would be until Luka joined Hayate's harem house.

HasuMasu · 2012-05-20, 03:20

Ten years!? So basically a 25-26 year old idol? Hmm, I don't know what to think about that...

Ayumu's ominous appearance is ominous. Oh right, and I actually thought Luka's disguise was kinda cute...

What's that 'homestay' thing Ayumu's brother was talking about?

Sumeragi · 2012-05-20, 03:43

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What's that 'homestay' thing Ayumu's brother was talking about?

Staying at someone else's home. In this case, it'll be more like a "cultural exchange" or something, I suppose.

HasuMasu · 2012-05-20, 03:56

^ I see, we definitely don't have anything like that here.

Shadow5YA · 2012-05-20, 09:54

The setup is obvious. More than likely Ayumu stays at the apartment for homestay and meets Luka there.

HasuMasu · 2012-05-20, 10:14

^ You mean she hasn't met her before?

Sumeragi · 2012-05-20, 10:16

More like "Wait, she lives with Hayate-kun?!?!?! I must try living her also!" scenario.

ChronoReverse · 2012-05-26, 09:46

It was obvious that Ayumu would end up staying there too but it's still funny =)

Shadow5YA · 2012-05-26, 10:11

I find Ayumu's "trust" in Hina funny. She knows that nothing will happen between Hina and Hayate even if they live together, but she wants to move in because she's afraid that something will happen between Hayate and Luka if they live together?

Sumeragi · 2012-05-26, 10:35

Hina is a known person to Ayumu, and probably could feel there has always been something that prevented Hina from getting close to Hayate. However, dazzling Luka (after all, Ayumu probably wouldn't know the back story) is an unknown factor, so it's obvious Ayumu would be worried until she either gets to know the circumstances or after some time passes.

Shadow5YA · 2012-05-26, 12:34

Didn't Ayumu already see Luka once and figure out that Hayate was too dense to see that she likes him?

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	I was wondering how long it would be until Luka joined Hayate's harem house.

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	I find Ayumu's "trust" in Hina funny. She knows that nothing will happen between Hina and Hayate even if they live together, but she wants to move in because she's afraid that something will happen between Hayate and Luka if they live together?

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