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Hogzilla · 2010-09-23, 02:15

Just ask a question.

I was in riichi, waiting for 3-Man. Shortly after (in the same game), the opponent opposite of my an'kan 3-Man. Can I chan'kan?

Archon_Wing · 2010-09-23, 02:17

Nope, it only applies to Kans promoted from open pon

Kyuu · 2010-09-23, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlautrec

I play on Tenhou from time to time too. Got a new id 2 days ago and it seems that it's been giving me good luck so far. However my biggest weakness in riichi mahjong is in defense; anyone has any tips to dispense regarding to that?

The hardest thing to do is: giving up tenpai to prevent from getting hit.

Kyuu · 2010-09-24, 03:04

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092416g...-701a4c38&tw=0

Last Ren-chan: Pair wait on a Dora. BAM.

Dasaru · 2010-09-24, 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proto

The other two han are from a san anko. Three concealed melds. (closed meld of 2 of circles, closed meld of 5 of circles, closed meld/kan of white dragons)

Suu anko is kind of a tricky yakuman to get. If you are on a pair wait, you can either win on a tsumo or on a discard. However, if you are on a double wait waiting for you to complete the last meld, you have to win on a tsumo. The reason for this is that if you won on a discard the last meld would be an open one, thus breaking the 4 concealed melds condition.

I hate to reference old posts, but can someone please clear this up for me?

Is a meld you ron off of considered open for the purposes of counting fu? Or just open for the purposes for suu ankoo? I went on a website that randomly generates mahjong hands to help you count points, and I saw a hand that had 3 concealed triplets. The problem though was that half the hand was opened and it had only 2 closed melds. The win was off of a Ron.

This doesn't make much sense at all. :/

EDIT:
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOD!
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092423g...-4884483b&tw=3

Malintex_Terek · 2010-09-25, 10:37

Links are working again. Tenhou...you don't usually screw up like that. >_>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasaru

I hate to reference old posts, but can someone please clear this up for me?

(1)Is a meld you ron off of considered open for the purposes of counting fu? (2)Or just open for the purposes for suu ankoo? (3)I went on a website that randomly generates mahjong hands to help you count points, and I saw a hand that had 3 concealed triplets. The problem though was that half the hand was opened and it had only 2 closed melds. The win was off of a Ron.

This doesn't make much sense at all. :/

1. Yes
2. No
3. That should be wrong. The San An Kou must be completely melded in the player's hand (i.e, the winning tile did not complete any meld to be included in the San An Kou), though it could complete the pair or fourth meld. Exceptions while seeing two 'open' melds would be if the player declared a hidden Kan, called a tile, then won off of the Pon. Once a player calls a tile, the only way to win with a San An Kou is a Ron to complete the pair, or a Tsumo to complete the final meld or the pair.

Arkenryu · 2010-09-25, 23:04

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092612g...1935bc104&tw=3

That was pretty fun.

Nofear3838 · 2010-09-26, 01:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkenryu

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092612g...1935bc104&tw=3

That was pretty fun.

Pass some of that luck along, please, lol.

Dasaru · 2010-09-28, 03:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malintex_Terek

Links are working again. Tenhou...you don't usually screw up like that. >_>

1. Yes
2. No
3. That should be wrong. The San An Kou must be completely melded in the player's hand (i.e, the winning tile did not complete any meld to be included in the San An Kou), though it could complete the pair or fourth meld. Exceptions while seeing two 'open' melds would be if the player declared a hidden Kan, called a tile, then won off of the Pon. Once a player calls a tile, the only way to win with a San An Kou is a Ron to complete the pair, or a Tsumo to complete the final meld or the pair.

Thank you so much for clearing that up for me! It will be a lot easier for me to count points in real life!

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***NEW RECORD!!!***

It is official. This has strictly been the worst game of mahjong that I have ever played in my life. I played so terrible in this game... In fact, this is the perfect guide on how NOT to play mahjong...

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092816g...-2c58e15a&tw=2

So terrible...

exkurizu · 2010-09-28, 06:36

This games hurts my eyes, I don't get how you could play so terrible, It looks as if you yourself don't know what to wanted to do. even making ryanmen machi furiten is strange for me...Please don't play like this again!!

Nofear3838 · 2010-09-29, 20:35

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010093010g...ccb0c9199&tw=0

Easy Game. I only needed 2 hands to win

Kyuu · 2010-09-30, 05:21

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010093018g...-b2b83c44&tw=1

Mundane game. Though things started getting interesting in the South round. Too bad one jerk left once South started.

East 4-3: Basically fed the person to my right into a Chinitsu. Then he quit once everyone else defended against it. LOL.

South 1-5: Player to my left had Chitoi the round prior. So, I tried to replicate and failed. Oh well.

South 1-6: I had dual pon waits on 2 and 8-man. I dropped 5-man. Does that make me furiten?

South 3-0: Honitsu duel. LOL.

South 4-0: Game ends with Su An Kou. What a jerk. LOL.

Dasaru · 2010-10-01, 22:44

GRRR this game...

Skim through these games and tell me what you think. I was robbed most of these, wasn't I?

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100212g...-7b9f0318&tw=3

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100123g...-f0b7c0ee&tw=3

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100123g...-6feb6f47&tw=1

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AND THIS GAME:
--> http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092906g...-88ddf047&tw=1
WHAT THE HECK!? None of my completed hands hit!!! And of course, the very last hand (south 4) I had a sexy baiman - Potential Yakuman - hand to rip into 2nd or 1st and I get beat by a... trash hand!!! ARGGGG!!! Watch South 4... that pretty much sums up my games recently >.<

Yun-Tak · 2010-10-02, 20:00

I feel marginally better if I feel that my hand was good enough to justify it discard. Sometimes. I read somewhere though that along the lines of Tenhou fixing the games for upper dan players, someone brought up the issue of getting a hot tile to test players and then later rewarding them with a big win if they break their hand. I'm always ready to write it off as occult, but I'm halfway convinced by your games and my own experience.

Yun-Tak · 2010-10-02, 20:07

By the way Dasaru, regarding your discussion about suu-ankoo, here's how not to do it:

Hint: auto-win.

Nofear3838 · 2010-10-03, 00:57

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100314g...c504cc424&tw=1

I can has horseshoe up my ass?

Tacos + Iishanten hell = GG me

Dasaru · 2010-10-03, 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nofear3838

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100314g...c504cc424&tw=1

I can has horseshoe up my ass?

Tacos + Iishanten hell = GG me

GOOD GOD...

Ok, I have no right to complain about my games when you get games like that lol.

Dasaru · 2010-10-04, 06:00

Oh! Someone pulled it off! I don't believe it! And I think it was by accident too lol!

East Round 4-2
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100419g...-c9a9c162&tw=0

Kyuu · 2010-10-06, 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dasaru

Oh! Someone pulled it off! I don't believe it! And I think it was by accident too lol!

East Round 4-2
http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100419g...-c9a9c162&tw=0

Doesn't look like an accident, unless y'can interpret his aim for an open tanyao, which resulted in this nagashi.

Malintex_Terek · 2010-10-09, 14:34

Mmm, I'm in the mood for a November tournament. Anyone interested (just speculative at this point).

2010-09-24, 03:04	Link #1104
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092416g...-701a4c38&tw=0 Last Ren-chan: Pair wait on a Dora. BAM. __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.

2010-09-30, 05:21	Link #1112
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010093018g...-b2b83c44&tw=1 Mundane game. Though things started getting interesting in the South round. Too bad one jerk left once South started. East 4-3: Basically fed the person to my right into a Chinitsu. Then he quit once everyone else defended against it. LOL. South 1-5: Player to my left had Chitoi the round prior. So, I tried to replicate and failed. Oh well. South 1-6: I had dual pon waits on 2 and 8-man. I dropped 5-man. Does that make me furiten? South 3-0: Honitsu duel. LOL. South 4-0: Game ends with Su An Kou. What a jerk. LOL. __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.

2010-10-09, 14:34	Link #1120
Malintex_Terek Mahjong Triple Pro Join Date: Sep 2006	Mmm, I'm in the mood for a November tournament. Anyone interested (just speculative at this point). __________________ HOLY CRACKERS! SAIGAR 2008 IS HERE! Nominations are open 19 November ~ 23 December 2007 NOW!! It's not a tournament without "men"!

2010-09-23, 02:15	Link #1101
Hogzilla Junior Member Join Date: May 2007	Just ask a question. I was in riichi, waiting for 3-Man. Shortly after (in the same game), the opponent opposite of my an'kan 3-Man. Can I chan'kan?

2010-09-25, 23:04	Link #1107
Arkenryu IRPO Patrolman Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: United Kingdom Age: 39	http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092612g...1935bc104&tw=3 That was pretty fun.

2010-09-28, 06:36	Link #1110
exkurizu Twilight Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Poland	This games hurts my eyes, I don't get how you could play so terrible, It looks as if you yourself don't know what to wanted to do. even making ryanmen machi furiten is strange for me...Please don't play like this again!!

2010-09-29, 20:35	Link #1111
Nofear3838 Hainiryuun Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 33	http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010093010g...ccb0c9199&tw=0 Easy Game. I only needed 2 hands to win

2010-10-01, 22:44	Link #1113
Dasaru Member Join Date: Sep 2009	GRRR this game... Skim through these games and tell me what you think. I was robbed most of these, wasn't I? http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100212g...-7b9f0318&tw=3 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100123g...-f0b7c0ee&tw=3 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100123g...-6feb6f47&tw=1 ---- AND THIS GAME: --> http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010092906g...-88ddf047&tw=1 WHAT THE HECK!? None of my completed hands hit!!! And of course, the very last hand (south 4) I had a sexy baiman - Potential Yakuman - hand to rip into 2nd or 1st and I get beat by a... trash hand!!! ARGGGG!!! Watch South 4... that pretty much sums up my games recently >.<

2010-10-02, 20:00	Link #1114
Yun-Tak Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	I feel marginally better if I feel that my hand was good enough to justify it discard. Sometimes. I read somewhere though that along the lines of Tenhou fixing the games for upper dan players, someone brought up the issue of getting a hot tile to test players and then later rewarding them with a big win if they break their hand. I'm always ready to write it off as occult, but I'm halfway convinced by your games and my own experience.

2010-10-02, 20:07	Link #1115
Yun-Tak Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	By the way Dasaru, regarding your discussion about suu-ankoo, here's how not to do it: Hint: auto-win.

2010-10-03, 00:57	Link #1116
Nofear3838 Hainiryuun Join Date: Apr 2010 Age: 33	http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100314g...c504cc424&tw=1 I can has horseshoe up my ass? Tacos + Iishanten hell = GG me

2010-10-04, 06:00	Link #1118
Dasaru Member Join Date: Sep 2009	Oh! Someone pulled it off! I don't believe it! And I think it was by accident too lol! East Round 4-2 http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2010100419g...-c9a9c162&tw=0