Fate/stay night Game discussion (Warning: Spoilers)

[aldw]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

What? Men can't be "depleted of sperm". They produce more constantly.

They can be run down, that is a documented occurrence...

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by aldw

They can be run down, that is a documented occurrence...

Yes, but it's not like they can "run out".

Having sex with your girlfriend every night is not going to permanently drop your sperm count.

[ShinMasaki]

but its Dark Sakura...she drained everything from everyone...who knows, maybe she could do it

[Harvenheidt]

Hum Heavens Feel was my favourite route as well...
I disliked Sakura in Fate & UBW since she was only the "shy, nice 'n' caring side kick char" who 's totally unimportant.
however my opinion did a 180 degree turn in HF as her upbringing, her story and her circumstances are bitterly "epic".
However the Cherry Blossom Dream ending killed my sense for good and evil.
Suffering like that, and still suffering even more because her freedom comes with the loss of her beloved,
is just the superlative of cruel ?

In Contrast to the Cherry Blossom Dream,
the True Ending, Return to the Spring was truly heartwarming and imo the best ending for the Visual Novel.

Fate ending, seemed quite dumb as Saber choses death over happiness.

And UBW, well, Rin is a talking devil who could seduce any men but in reality is a nutshell in bed.
For some reason it feels like Rin would only share the bed with shirou for the sole purpose of making an heir to the Tohsaka lineage, thus feels afar from love.
Somehow, in the parting szene with Archer I thought I could read her mind: saying, I love you Archer, so please dont die, or I am left with Shirou (Kyaaa don wanna)

Spoiler for regarding "sperm depletion":

Back to HF Arc:
"Sperm depletion" is not a problem since Shirou can use the Magical Energy he receives from Sakura,
to cast projection magic for vast amounts of sperm,
so this might even become his new Noble Phantasm: Unlimited Love Juices.
If you think it over, it is the only way for Shirou not to die from dehydration.

[aldw]

Originally Posted by Harvenheidt

And UBW, well, Rin is a talking devil who could seduce any men but in reality is a nutshell in bed.
For some reason it feels like Rin would only share the bed with shirou for the sole purpose of making an heir to the Tohsaka lineage, thus feels afar from love.
Somehow, in the parting szene with Archer I thought I could read her mind: saying, I love you Archer, so please dont die, or I am left with Shirou (Kyaaa don wanna)

Wrt UBW, what Archer did concerning Rin's feelings was to help her better understand her relationship with Shirou, but one needs to understand that even in timelines where Archer EMIYA never showed up Rin and Shirou still got together anyways, and what Archer's presence does is to expedite that process. Rin and Shirou are a Yin and Yang quality, much like his favorite swords , and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia better clarifies that quality of their relationship. Rin is very much NOT a cold fish in bed once you have the chance to see that...

[Paladinoras]

Originally Posted by Harvenheidt

And UBW, well, Rin is a talking devil who could seduce any men but in reality is a nutshell in bed.
For some reason it feels like Rin would only share the bed with shirou for the sole purpose of making an heir to the Tohsaka lineage, thus feels afar from love.
Somehow, in the parting szene with Archer I thought I could read her mind: saying, I love you Archer, so please dont die, or I am left with Shirou (Kyaaa don wanna)

Umm, this might be extremely shocking for you. . .

Soo...umm, MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

Spoiler for Archer:

Shirou is Archer.

And Rin did not have sex with him to continue the lineage, hell, Shiro did not even insert his sperm into her.

[Harvenheidt]

Originally Posted by Paladinoras

Umm, this might be extremely shocking for you. . .

Soo...umm, MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

Spoiler for Archer:

Shirou is Archer.

And Rin did not have sex with him to continue the lineage, hell, Shiro did not even insert his sperm into her.

Spoiler for Archer:

Even though Shirou is Archer, they might end up being 2 different entities, as there is no garantuee that UBW Shiro will become Archer, and judging from the CG in that parting scene,it is definitly as you said totally indefinite, I merely wrote it just felt that way.
As for the Bed scene, they shared the bed to establish an energy pipe from Rin to Shirou, so that he could use his projection magic, and reality marble to some extent, to increase his chances againt Gilga

Spoiler for Question about HF:

Why did Shirou have that Dream where he had sex with Tohsaka? I've been wondering but is the bruise on his hand an entrance mark of a crest worm or did Sakura do something to him while he was sleeping?

[kaizer63]

Originally Posted by Harvenheidt

Spoiler for Question about HF:

Why did Shirou have that Dream where he had sex with Tohsaka? I've been wondering but is the bruise on his hand an entrance mark of a crest worm or did Sakura do something to him while he was sleeping?

Spoiler for answer to question about HF:

Neither--Rider did something to him as he was sleeping. To be more specific, she raped him to collect his magical energy to ease the burden on Sakura. If you check the CG, "Tohsaka" has Rider's eyes. The bruise on his hand is just related to his command spells, I think.

[Harvenheidt]

Originally Posted by kaizer63

Spoiler for answer to question about HF:

Neither--Rider did something to him as he was sleeping. To be more specific, she raped him to collect his magical energy to ease the burden on Sakura. If you check the CG, "Tohsaka" has Rider's eyes. The bruise on his hand is just related to his command spells, I think.

Spoiler for HF related:

Ah, that makes perfekt sense, i've found the Eyes suspicious but i was unable to draw the line to Rider. Sakura who stubbornly inquired about the dream the following morning seemed to be more likely related to this. Thank you very much. Regarding the bruise, I assumed that it was a mark from a crest worm since it first appeared after Shirou met Zanken at the Matô mansion, a possible hint to this might 've been the suspicious bugs that Shirou discovered. So i thought if he really were infected, that would be a possible explanation for his Dream about Tohsaka. However it was never brought up in HF that he might be infected so your explanation is certainly the right one.

[aldw]

Originally Posted by Harvenheidt

Spoiler for Archer:

Even though Shirou is Archer, they might end up being 2 different entities, as there is no garantuee that UBW Shiro will become Archer, and judging from the CG in that parting scene,it is definitly as you said totally indefinite, I merely wrote it just felt that way.
As for the Bed scene, they shared the bed to establish an energy pipe from Rin to Shirou, so that he could use his projection magic, and reality marble to some extent, to increase his chances againt Gilga

Whether Shirou ends up as Archer or not doesn't affect the point of Rin's feelings towards Shirou in any event. As for the bedroom scene, Shirou already made the point to Rin that although they needed to have a magic contract, he didn't want to treat their 'moment of passion' with any strings attached.

[Blade_Lord]

Fate ending, seemed quite dumb as Saber choses death over happiness.

Eh, that's because in Fate ending Saber isn't "saved". It's in the UBW route good ending that really saved her.

UBW FTW.

[Zarn]

Finished the Fate route for the first time a few days ago.

Saber. T_T

[Paladinoras]

Just finished HF .. .

OMG!!!

I can't believe that I am saying this. . .but. .

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, QUIT HAVING SEX ALREADY!!!!!

[Lelouch*Vi*Britannia]

Ok... I'm experiencing a very weird problem right now... I got Hollows Ataraxia, installed it, ran the game it worked, however, a weird problem came about saving, and I couldn't get past the prologue and some game error would appear, please help...

[rastilin]

Are you running Windows Vista?

[Lelouch*Vi*Britannia]

Originally Posted by rastilin

Are you running Windows Vista?

Actually I'm running Windows XP...

[rastilin]

Actually I'm running Windows XP...

My first assumption is something to do with write permissions. Well can you be more specific about the error? Do you have admin privileges on that computer? Do any other programs display similar problems? When you say that it stops you from continuing, how?

[Lelouch*Vi*Britannia]

Originally Posted by rastilin

My first assumption is something to do with write permissions. Well can you be more specific about the error? Do you have admin privileges on that computer? Do any other programs display similar problems? When you say that it stops you from continuing, how?

Alright, here's what it does. When I start up the game, it works normally, I get to the entrance with 3 blank save data, when I click of one of them, I continue to the menu and start he game. From that point on, when ever I tried to save the game or finish the opening of the game, It pops out this error in japanese and just basically ends the game and I can't continue on. If I tried to save the game, it does the same error problem with me.

This is the problem:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v422/MajinAndy/error.jpg


I have admin priviledges on this computer, and I also set the computer to japanese, in order to play the game. I cannot find a similar problem to any of my other programs. And Fate/stay night (PC) runs perfectly on my computer... I don't know what's wrong...?

[rastilin]

Wow, huh, that's pretty strange. Try running it through Applocale with English as your computer's language. See if that works.

[Deadwings]

Hi! I'm finally able to play F/SN for the first time (yupii!) and well just a little doubt I have. I was in what I guess is the Fate route and I was really looking forward to see the Archer vs Berseker scene in the castle, like in the anime. But Shirou run away, he had sex, the interlude came explaining a few things but no Archer vs Berseker. Is it like that or was it me making some bad choices? (I actually don't think so but just to be sure :P)