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MisaoFan · 2013-11-14, 08:31

Spoiler for Episode 7:

Haak · 2013-11-14, 11:49

Episode 7

That was a fantastic episode. The scene where Hikari and Akari brave Uroko's storm was really magical. I could watch that scene all day. My only complaint is that they were a little blasé about Hikari leaving.

Sakuratsuki · 2013-11-14, 12:14

That was a fantastic episode indeed. I kinda liked the behavior of Hikari in this episode. He is my favorite character now.

The next episode preview looks interesting. What's up with Chisaki, confessing maybe?

This anime really needs a time-skip, because there are a lot of problems between the sea people and the land people that can't be solved by this kids (hikari, tsumugu etc) even if they want to. Because nobody is going to listen to them. Big things have to happen.

Edit: @VTHokiePride, that thing also left me thinking about what does he mean with 'his' descendants? Yes, it can be true that they are the descendants of the sea god, because of the weird behavior of Uroko. Well, we have to wait for the answer later on.

VTHokiePride · 2013-11-14, 12:24

Spoiler for Descendants Thing:

Kanon · 2013-11-14, 12:53

Excellent episode. It confirmed what I've been thinking for a while now: the show is a lot better when it focuses on "adult matters" and larger problems like land people vs sea people than on romance between a bunch of kids.

I didn't expect Uroko to go to such length to prevent Akari and Hikari from leaving. It looks they're very important in his eyes because they're the descendants of somebody he made a promise with. I don't think he was talking about the sea god.

I take it Hikari is going to temporarily live with Miuna and her dad. This should be very interesting.

Utsuro no Hako · 2013-11-14, 13:15

The last five minutes of the episode were so awesome. When Hikari and Akari were surrounded by the trees of ice it looked like something from Hansel and Gretel. The scenery porn was the best PA Works has done since HSI.

MCAL · 2013-11-14, 13:45

This was probably the best episode. It was excellent from start to finish and more importantly, there was no crying. Gold star, Okada.

The ending was fantastic though. I could watch the visuals of Uroko trying to stop Hikari and Akari all day and never get tired of them. Gold star, PA Works.

Pen3 · 2013-11-14, 13:51

Hikari X Miuna ending? Shes going to be under the same roof with Hikari, which is further than the other girls have gone. LOL

Zeross · 2013-11-14, 17:01

this episode was the best up until now. at the end i was like "is he trying to kill them or what?"

wasnt too hooked on this show but for once i want to see what happen next =)

FireChick · 2013-11-14, 17:40

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^ It's in episode 6.

When does it show up? Five minutes into the episode? Ten?

Kirarakim · 2013-11-14, 19:07

Great episode, although in general I think I like episodes that focus on Hikari & Akari relationship. I think it is my favorite of the series (and I mean in a brother/sister way, don't get any wrong ideas)

Freeter · 2013-11-14, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

Great episode, although in general I think I like episodes that focus on Hikari & Akari relationship. I think it is my favorite of the series (and I mean in a brother/sister way, don't get any wrong ideas)

Isn't the show implying that we should, though? Akari's hinted on more than one occasion that she might be romantically interested in Hikari.

Next ep will be the real test. Miuna might not want to share

Cloudedmind · 2013-11-14, 19:28

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Originally Posted by Freeter

Isn't the show implying that we should, though? Akari's hinted on more than one occasion that she might be romantically interested in Hikari.

Next ep will be the real test. Miuna might not want to share

I only remember once and that was clearly a joke. Akari likes that surface guy and wants to be Miuna's mother.

Kirarakim · 2013-11-14, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Freeter

Isn't the show implying that we should, though? Akari's hinted on more than one occasion that she might be romantically interested in Hikari.

I must have missed those episodes

Flower · 2013-11-14, 20:04

Another excellent ep.

As regards the end scene, I think Uroku-sama was making it difficult ultimately for the sake of their father to relent in his stubborness, so that his natural fatherly instinct would overide how he thought things should be.

I thought the conversation between Akari and her father was a great one, and also liked the return to the principle of trying to see things from different angles being important, as opposed to "my view = objective truth and reality, and if you don't see things as I do there is something wromg with your head" that is so typified by the interactions between some of the land and sea people at the moment.

Good stuff. ^^

Kirito · 2013-11-14, 22:04

This was a great episode. Hikari maturing in a good and awkward sense, the on going bitter rivalry between the land and the sea (the scene with the adults), and Akari leaving the village, plus Hikari exiling himself much to The King of Atlantica Uroko's dismay. It really sucks that the adults couldn't put aside their differences to let the kids experience something fun, but seeing their hardwork go down the drain like that really was shocking. Seriously guys Dwarven Vow #134: Compassion benefits all man.

Anyways...

Watching Hikari's this episode really got me thinking about where his actions regarding his new found faith for the land people, and where his feelings lie regarding Manaka and Tsumugu is going to go. Because of last weeks episode he still feels like he's uncool in Manaka's eyes, and his actions for playing the leader card could potential bring the two together. To me, it seems like this will probably comeback to bite him later on. So it looks like Both Hikari and Chisaki are both on the same boat here, and I find that interesting.

Uroko's reaction and reluctance to Hikari leaving seems paint a bigger picture compared to Akari leaving due to a "promise" that he made to someone. The real question is: who is the person who made this promise to him and why?

Anyways, with Akari and Hikari gone from the village and living with Miuna and her father. I can certainly see this will be a test to see whether they'll be able to live on the land and adapt to a new environment. I wonder how Hikari will adapt to this change and if his views on humans will turn for the better or for the worse, and I share the same sentiments regarding Akari, as well with her new family.

Can't wait to see where this goes, and I wonder what face Manaka, Chisaki, and Kaname will make when they learn that Hikari exiled himself from his home.

orion · 2013-11-14, 23:29

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Originally Posted by Pen3

Hikari X Miuna ending? Shes going to be under the same roof with Hikari, which is further than the other girls have gone. LOL

After a time skip probably. I mean Miuna is only 9 yo. Let her have some fun first.

Flower · 2013-11-15, 00:02

One of the things that caught my attention this episode was the interaction at the end between the sea god (wonder if it has a name?), Uroko, the father, and the latter's children.

Btw, to get something out of the way, I am going to do a wild guess and posit that the person Uroko made the promise to would be Hikari and Akari's mother. She seems to be a very strong, yet silent "presence" in the series somfar, in many ways. Have to think about that more before articulating it, I think.

Anyhoo, I am guessing that the element that is driving the sea people to extinction is precisely that quality of finger pointing and blaming others (in this case the land people). That (perhaps partly conscious and unconscious at the same time) choice that they and the land people who still honor the sea god have mademas the strongest element influencing their interactions with each other at the moment, and that is what is ultimately angering the sea god.

In the scene where Akari and Hikari came to say farewell to Uroko (and perhaps their father) Uruko remarks that the flame is flickering angrily and that the two children are just as stubborn as other members of the family.

Then comes about the whole sequence where Uruko tries to stop them from leaving because of a promise (again, I think it was to their mother) until finally the father begs for their lives to be spared, relenting in his stuborness to a degree.

From Akari's conversation with her father it is clear to me that her mother had a good grasp on "heart knowledge", if you will, and it is this that Akari comes to realize is insufficiently present in the reasoning process of her father. It may have been that her mother provided that balance of character in her father, and that the two "rounded each other out", or complimented/completed the other with their strengths and perspectives on things.

Akari's father's concern for the people under his care is not wrong, it is incomplete, and therefore cannot fully, organically meet the whole "corpus" of needs that often need to be addressed. On a larger level, this is a mini-reflection of that stunted, almost misshapen and full of holes entire orientation of being that colors the lives of many of the influential members of both the sea and land people. And this is not only what angers the sea god but also is a distant rumble of thunder heralding an oncoming storm.

The scene between the fisherman and the sea people over whether or no to have a fuller expression of the sea festival is a perfect image of this. In focusing on their bickerings and resentments and blamimg others they "missed the boat" (sorry about that

), and lost the opportunity that was being presented to them. And the festival was in honor of the sea god ultimately to begin with.

Anyway, I'd be curious to hear what others think about this....

Guardian Enzo · 2013-11-15, 08:11

Echoing the thoughts that this was a fantastic ep, the best of the series so far. I loved the focus on Tomori, who's in the rather tragic position of being caught between his love for his family and his perceived duty towards his people. Will it be so easy for Hikari and Akari to not think about their father, all alone?

I think Akari being in focus is naturally going to lead to powerful episodes, because her situation lays bare all the fault lines both personal and societal. Tooru has already "stolen" one sea woman, now he's about to steal another. Shioshishio is dying, and young people like Akari leaving hasten the decline. She's also Tomori's daughter and effectively Hikari's mother, and his pushing her to go is the first huge step he's taken towards placing the welfare of another above his own and growing up. Okada just needs to trust the premise and the audience, and not heap on the syrupy theatrics like she did in episodes 4 and 5.

ultimate_noob · 2013-11-15, 10:48

Uroko-sama probably made a promise with their mom which is probably a descendant of the sea god thus his actions on preventing the siblings to leave. But the mom said she is ok with the land people.

Hmmm. There must be some curse when you let the sea people and land people be a couple.

Baseless theory time! Miuna's mom is from the sea and she's dead, Akari & Hikari's mom is dead leading to the dad being probably a land guy in the past who defected to the sea world.

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Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	Episode 7 That was a fantastic episode. The scene where Hikari and Akari brave Uroko's storm was really magical. I could watch that scene all day. My only complaint is that they were a little blasé about Hikari leaving. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

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Sakuratsuki Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2004	That was a fantastic episode indeed. I kinda liked the behavior of Hikari in this episode. He is my favorite character now. The next episode preview looks interesting. What's up with Chisaki, confessing maybe? This anime really needs a time-skip, because there are a lot of problems between the sea people and the land people that can't be solved by this kids (hikari, tsumugu etc) even if they want to. Because nobody is going to listen to them. Big things have to happen. Edit: @VTHokiePride, that thing also left me thinking about what does he mean with 'his' descendants? Yes, it can be true that they are the descendants of the sea god, because of the weird behavior of Uroko. Well, we have to wait for the answer later on. Last edited by Sakuratsuki; 2013-11-14 at 12:32.

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VTHokiePride Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC Age: 29	Spoiler for Descendants Thing: So when Uroko says they are "his" descendants, does that mean Hikari and Akari are descendants of the Sea God? Was I the only one that I saw that? Uroko used it as a reason to go to such great lengths to keep them from leaving. __________________

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Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Excellent episode. It confirmed what I've been thinking for a while now: the show is a lot better when it focuses on "adult matters" and larger problems like land people vs sea people than on romance between a bunch of kids. I didn't expect Uroko to go to such length to prevent Akari and Hikari from leaving. It looks they're very important in his eyes because they're the descendants of somebody he made a promise with. I don't think he was talking about the sea god. I take it Hikari is going to temporarily live with Miuna and her dad. This should be very interesting. __________________

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Zeross Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: france	this episode was the best up until now. at the end i was like "is he trying to kill them or what?" wasnt too hooked on this show but for once i want to see what happen next =) __________________

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Utsuro no Hako Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011	The last five minutes of the episode were so awesome. When Hikari and Akari were surrounded by the trees of ice it looked like something from Hansel and Gretel. The scenery porn was the best PA Works has done since HSI.

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MCAL Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012	This was probably the best episode. It was excellent from start to finish and more importantly, there was no crying. Gold star, Okada. The ending was fantastic though. I could watch the visuals of Uroko trying to stop Hikari and Akari all day and never get tired of them. Gold star, PA Works.

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Pen3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Hikari X Miuna ending? Shes going to be under the same roof with Hikari, which is further than the other girls have gone. LOL

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Kirarakim Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Great episode, although in general I think I like episodes that focus on Hikari & Akari relationship. I think it is my favorite of the series (and I mean in a brother/sister way, don't get any wrong ideas) __________________ Twitter MAL

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Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Another excellent ep. As regards the end scene, I think Uroku-sama was making it difficult ultimately for the sake of their father to relent in his stubborness, so that his natural fatherly instinct would overide how he thought things should be. I thought the conversation between Akari and her father was a great one, and also liked the return to the principle of trying to see things from different angles being important, as opposed to "my view = objective truth and reality, and if you don't see things as I do there is something wromg with your head" that is so typified by the interactions between some of the land and sea people at the moment. Good stuff. ^^ __________________

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Kirito Enjoying Snack Time! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Where It's Legal to Marry Clara and Alice Age: 35	This was a great episode. Hikari maturing in a good and awkward sense, the on going bitter rivalry between the land and the sea (the scene with the adults), and Akari leaving the village, plus Hikari exiling himself much to The King of Atlantica Uroko's dismay. It really sucks that the adults couldn't put aside their differences to let the kids experience something fun, but seeing their hardwork go down the drain like that really was shocking. Seriously guys Dwarven Vow #134: Compassion benefits all man. Anyways... Watching Hikari's this episode really got me thinking about where his actions regarding his new found faith for the land people, and where his feelings lie regarding Manaka and Tsumugu is going to go. Because of last weeks episode he still feels like he's uncool in Manaka's eyes, and his actions for playing the leader card could potential bring the two together. To me, it seems like this will probably comeback to bite him later on. So it looks like Both Hikari and Chisaki are both on the same boat here, and I find that interesting. Uroko's reaction and reluctance to Hikari leaving seems paint a bigger picture compared to Akari leaving due to a "promise" that he made to someone. The real question is: who is the person who made this promise to him and why? Anyways, with Akari and Hikari gone from the village and living with Miuna and her father. I can certainly see this will be a test to see whether they'll be able to live on the land and adapt to a new environment. I wonder how Hikari will adapt to this change and if his views on humans will turn for the better or for the worse, and I share the same sentiments regarding Akari, as well with her new family. Can't wait to see where this goes, and I wonder what face Manaka, Chisaki, and Kaname will make when they learn that Hikari exiled himself from his home. __________________

2013-11-15, 00:02	Link #818
Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	One of the things that caught my attention this episode was the interaction at the end between the sea god (wonder if it has a name?), Uroko, the father, and the latter's children. Btw, to get something out of the way, I am going to do a wild guess and posit that the person Uroko made the promise to would be Hikari and Akari's mother. She seems to be a very strong, yet silent "presence" in the series somfar, in many ways. Have to think about that more before articulating it, I think. Anyhoo, I am guessing that the element that is driving the sea people to extinction is precisely that quality of finger pointing and blaming others (in this case the land people). That (perhaps partly conscious and unconscious at the same time) choice that they and the land people who still honor the sea god have mademas the strongest element influencing their interactions with each other at the moment, and that is what is ultimately angering the sea god. In the scene where Akari and Hikari came to say farewell to Uroko (and perhaps their father) Uruko remarks that the flame is flickering angrily and that the two children are just as stubborn as other members of the family. Then comes about the whole sequence where Uruko tries to stop them from leaving because of a promise (again, I think it was to their mother) until finally the father begs for their lives to be spared, relenting in his stuborness to a degree. From Akari's conversation with her father it is clear to me that her mother had a good grasp on "heart knowledge", if you will, and it is this that Akari comes to realize is insufficiently present in the reasoning process of her father. It may have been that her mother provided that balance of character in her father, and that the two "rounded each other out", or complimented/completed the other with their strengths and perspectives on things. Akari's father's concern for the people under his care is not wrong, it is incomplete, and therefore cannot fully, organically meet the whole "corpus" of needs that often need to be addressed. On a larger level, this is a mini-reflection of that stunted, almost misshapen and full of holes entire orientation of being that colors the lives of many of the influential members of both the sea and land people. And this is not only what angers the sea god but also is a distant rumble of thunder heralding an oncoming storm. The scene between the fisherman and the sea people over whether or no to have a fuller expression of the sea festival is a perfect image of this. In focusing on their bickerings and resentments and blamimg others they "missed the boat" (sorry about that ), and lost the opportunity that was being presented to them. And the festival was in honor of the sea god ultimately to begin with. Anyway, I'd be curious to hear what others think about this.... __________________

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ultimate_noob Skwid Fan Join Date: Jun 2012	Uroko-sama probably made a promise with their mom which is probably a descendant of the sea god thus his actions on preventing the siblings to leave. But the mom said she is ok with the land people. Hmmm. There must be some curse when you let the sea people and land people be a couple. Baseless theory time! Miuna's mom is from the sea and she's dead, Akari & Hikari's mom is dead leading to the dad being probably a land guy in the past who defected to the sea world.