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ID555 · 2014-09-10, 07:43

Sasuke is just waiting for Naruto to pound that huge chip on his shoulder out of his body. From the back. With his --

Stark700 · 2014-09-10, 07:46

This fight better not last over 10 chapters. Somehow, I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

HayashiTakara · 2014-09-10, 07:46

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Originally Posted by JustRob

Comparing the politics and government of real life to Naruto is stupid. It's a fantasy world. And besides, after fighting united in this whole ordeal, I think the five Kage would have made peace with each other.

Sasuke taking control of the Tailed Beasts against their will and using them to "reform" the world is the exact same thing as what Madara did. You can't force people to submit to your rule. It will never work.

Except you know, reality is all we know, even the imaginary is derived from reality.

Also if Sasuke offers the people a peaceful life, no one will complain. Although yes, I do agree that diplomacy is the best method at this point, considering we the viewers as well as Naruto have been in this from the start, but Sasuke wasn't, he doesn't know what's been going on with the 5 Kages. Even though I don't agree with him, I see where he's coming from.

JustRob · 2014-09-10, 08:02

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Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Except you know, reality is all we know, even the imaginary is derived from reality.

Also if Sasuke offers the people a peaceful life, no one will complain. Although yes, I do agree that diplomacy is the best method at this point, considering we the viewers as well as Naruto have been in this from the start, but Sasuke wasn't, he doesn't know what's been going on with the 5 Kages. Even though I don't agree with him, I see where he's coming from.

No one will complain? No one will complain if he tells everyone "Hey, I killed the five Kage, your beloved and well-respected leaders. Now we can all have peace."?

I'm sorry, but what Sasuke is doing is what started the "cycle of hatred" to begin with. You can't rule the world with force, you can't kill whoever the hell disagrees with you.

LevelSeven · 2014-09-10, 08:10

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Originally Posted by JustRob

No one will complain? No one will complain if he tells everyone "Hey, I killed the five Kage, your beloved and well-respected leaders. Now we can all have peace."?

I'm sorry, but what Sasuke is doing is what started the "cycle of hatred" to begin with. You can't rule the world with force, you can't kill whoever the hell disagrees with you.

the difference is that he isnt doing it in order to rule over them, he does this so that the corrupt and stupid system of the 5 nations will be destroyed and shinobi will not be used for BS anymore...

madara had a similar goal, at least if i stretch it far enough

sasukes reason is actually a really good one but well, the way he does it is "evil" BUT who the hell cares? in naruto-verse their is not something like hell and heaven, you can do whatever you like and still go to the same place...

so, i root for sasuke simply because it means that we will have a damn sasu vs naru fight, which i wanted since years

JustRob · 2014-09-10, 08:12

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Originally Posted by LevelSeven

the difference is that he isnt doing it in order to rule over them, he does this so that the corrupt and stupid system of the 5 nations will be destroyed and shinobi will not be used for BS anymore...

madara had a similar goal, at least if i stretch it far enough

sasukes reason is actually a really good one but well, the way he does it is "evil" BUT who the hell cares? in naruto-verse their is not something like hell and heaven, you can do whatever you like and still go to the same place...

so, i root for sasuke simply because it means that we will have a damn sasu vs naru fight, which i wanted since years

It doesn't matter why he's doing it. The five Kage have bonded with each other and basically already buried the hatchet. And everyone knows it. If Sasuke kills them all off he will be lynched.

Death Usagi · 2014-09-10, 08:17

Well, I knew the shit was going to happen sooner or later...

Shinagami · 2014-09-10, 08:25

Well can't really say I'm a fan of the circumstances that lead to the final confrontation between Sasuke and Naruto but I really want to see this fight. This could be the redeeming point in the entire war arc and make the ending good or it could go horribely wrong.... Now we can see what they are capable of with their powers because all the ninjutsu was useless on kaguya.

LevelSeven · 2014-09-10, 08:34

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Originally Posted by JustRob

It doesn't matter why he's doing it. The five Kage have bonded with each other and basically already buried the hatchet. And everyone knows it. If Sasuke kills them all off he will be lynched.

yeah, but whho grants them that future generations will still be so friendly to each other, as far as i understand it, sasuke wants to make this "revolution" so that the things he experienced will never happen again, not only as long as he lives but also for the time after his/narutos/the kages death....

this is actually a good goal but the way he does it is a bit screwed up BUT than again im simply happy that we finally gain the FIGHT

@shinigami

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This could be the redeeming point in the entire war arc and make the ending good or it could go horribely wrong...

dont worry, it cant be more worse than the ending we would have WITHOUT them fighting each other :P

mystogan · 2014-09-10, 08:42

at last we are here, the last epic battle, i really hope they use strategy and their powers efficiently, instead of throwing god powers at each other.

instead of giving some unclear philosophy of revolution to remake the world for sasuke, kishi should have given him a clear picture of what it is he intends to do. feels like this whole executing kages and capturing the beasts is only for sake to make it dark, but i hope there is some good explanation behind this.
he better not ruin this character

Eragon · 2014-09-10, 08:43

^ You are expecting too much. This is Kishi. Its all about Onii-chan's dream now.

Another redemption arc, bleh.

I was hoping Douche-ke wouldn't be a douche this time around but, noooooo. He just has to do the same stupid thing that somebody else tried to do, for god knows how many years, and failed and died for all their troubles.

LevelSeven · 2014-09-10, 09:00

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Originally Posted by Eragon

^ You are expecting too much. This is Kishi. Its all about Onii-chan's dream now.

Another redemption arc, bleh.

I was hoping Douche-ke wouldn't be a douche this time around but, noooooo. He just has to do the same stupid thing that somebody else tried to do, for god knows how many years, and failed and died for all their troubles.

if he doesnt do it, how can we have the most important thing in th whole naruto-verse?

naru vs sasu ??

mystogan · 2014-09-10, 09:27

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Originally Posted by Eragon

^ You are expecting too much. This is Kishi. Its all about Onii-chan's dream now.

Another redemption arc, bleh.

I was hoping Douche-ke wouldn't be a douche this time around but, noooooo. He just has to do the same stupid thing that somebody else tried to do, for god knows how many years, and failed and died for all their troubles.

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if he doesnt do it, how can we have the most important thing in th whole naruto-verse?

naru vs sasu ??

no matter how much BS comes along, hope it might unravel into something better, especially when it comes to dark characters like sasuke

and since it has come to naruto vs sasuke, there is also a thing where they want to defeat each other. it was there before at the hospital rooftop and at the valley of the end and i guess its still there now.

Sinedd · 2014-09-10, 09:28

NARUTO: Chapter 692 - Revolution
One of the best chapters in NARUTO manga!!! I've been waiting for this more than 6 years to happen and now we have what we always wanted: NARUTO VS. SASUKE FINAL BATTLE!
Probably this is my primary reason why I'm reading this manga, the 2nd match between NARUTO AND SASUKE.
I remember when Naruto and Sasuke had their first confrontation in Part I and unexpectedly Naruto LOST AND SASUKE WON!
Tobirama and Hiruzen got their last words. I'm still disappointed the way Madara died. He didn't ever had the chance to show his true power and kill everyone, but don't worry because Sasuke will. MUWWAHAHA! I'm still clueless what Orochimaru will do about that.
The white person white dying is White Zetsu or Obito? Can someone tell me? Didn't White Zetsu died long before Infinite Tsukuyomi Arc?
In the past, when you asked yourself if Madara & Obito will die you can for sure that the answer was yes. But now...it's Sasuke, we know Naruto lost the first match, this is the final battle for the title of Hokage. Even Kishimoto doesn't know what do...
I never liked Sasuke, but now I can tell that I like him. He choose the perfect moment to show his true intentions. We can't deny the idea that Naruto or somebody else will die.
Seriously, Sasuke is a better Hokage than Naruto. Naruto is unintelligent, but Sasuke can make a difference. I want Sasuke to be Hokage.
OFF: 1 WEEK BREAK. NEXT CHAPTER 24-9-14.

Gary29 · 2014-09-10, 09:30

Okay, I was wrong. THIS could save the ending for me if done well enough.

~Yami~ · 2014-09-10, 09:43

finally... Naruto vs Sasuke..
at least let Kurama fight together with Naruto!!!

Sasuke and his silly reasons... hahaha

Om Nerabdator · 2014-09-10, 10:09

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Originally Posted by levani

so, we all thought madara (obito) was the final fight, then the real madara, then obito again but twist! It was still madara in the end but another twist! It was kaguya! But now, the ultimate twist, sasuke?

Can this manga just end?

.....................the man has a point!!

Shinagami · 2014-09-10, 10:13

What's the difference between the chibaku tensei used to seal kaguya and the ones that Sasuke just whipped out to trap the bijuus. If there's no real difference then the whole team 7 strategy was pointless.

Slayerx · 2014-09-10, 10:22

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Originally Posted by LevelSeven

the difference is that he isnt doing it in order to rule over them, he does this so that the corrupt and stupid system of the 5 nations will be destroyed and shinobi will not be used for BS anymore...

And his plan is still idiotic.
First, All of the villages love their repesective kage's; so killing them will only make them hate sasuke and thus not follow along with whatever plan he has for them.

Second, Killing the kages does NOT give the villages any incentive to change the system; they will just pick new kages. If Sasuke kills tsunade, the ONLY result is that kakashi will get a promotion; the system remains in place.

Third, the kages are NOT the reason why there is no peace between the villages. The kages certainly have a heavy amount of influence in what direction they go in, but at the core of the conflicts between the villages go MUCH deeper. The kage is more or less a reflection of the rest of the village; if the kage hates a certain village then most likely that sentiment is shared by the vast majority of the village as well. Killing the kage in question won't make that hatred that is shared by the masses suddenly disappear. If anything, the Kage is the only one who could curve such hatred and keep his people from acting rashly since he has their respect. For instance with the kages assassinated, the villages might rashly decided to take their revenge out on Konoha since they spawned the little psycho and failed to deal with him... their kages might have quelled such rash hatred, but Sasuke got rid of them

Sasuke is basically just an idiot who has no idea how revolutions actually work. Namely the fact that you can't fight a revolution on your own... the only way your revolution will have the outcome you want is if the masses actually SUPPORT the outcome you want(either that or establish a tyrannical dictatorship and rule the masses with an iron fist, and thus force the people to follow you against their will under threat of harsh punishment for wanting to be free). Sasuke is really just creating anarchy.

GDB · 2014-09-10, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Shinagami

What's the difference between the chibaku tensei used to seal kaguya and the ones that Sasuke just whipped out to trap the bijuus. If there's no real difference then the whole team 7 strategy was pointless.

Kaguya's was a super seal that resulted in runes and stuff placed on the ground. Super high level.

The bijuu one is just a lot of dirt trapping them like if you buried someone in the sand at the beach.

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Shinagami Rubiks Cube Join Date: May 2014 Location: Mars Age: 27	Well can't really say I'm a fan of the circumstances that lead to the final confrontation between Sasuke and Naruto but I really want to see this fight. This could be the redeeming point in the entire war arc and make the ending good or it could go horribely wrong.... Now we can see what they are capable of with their powers because all the ninjutsu was useless on kaguya.

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Sinedd Member Join Date: Nov 2013	NARUTO: Chapter 692 - Revolution One of the best chapters in NARUTO manga!!! I've been waiting for this more than 6 years to happen and now we have what we always wanted: NARUTO VS. SASUKE FINAL BATTLE! Probably this is my primary reason why I'm reading this manga, the 2nd match between NARUTO AND SASUKE. I remember when Naruto and Sasuke had their first confrontation in Part I and unexpectedly Naruto LOST AND SASUKE WON! Tobirama and Hiruzen got their last words. I'm still disappointed the way Madara died. He didn't ever had the chance to show his true power and kill everyone, but don't worry because Sasuke will. MUWWAHAHA! I'm still clueless what Orochimaru will do about that. The white person white dying is White Zetsu or Obito? Can someone tell me? Didn't White Zetsu died long before Infinite Tsukuyomi Arc? In the past, when you asked yourself if Madara & Obito will die you can for sure that the answer was yes. But now...it's Sasuke, we know Naruto lost the first match, this is the final battle for the title of Hokage. Even Kishimoto doesn't know what do... I never liked Sasuke, but now I can tell that I like him. He choose the perfect moment to show his true intentions. We can't deny the idea that Naruto or somebody else will die. Seriously, Sasuke is a better Hokage than Naruto. Naruto is unintelligent, but Sasuke can make a difference. I want Sasuke to be Hokage. OFF: 1 WEEK BREAK. NEXT CHAPTER 24-9-14.

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