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Originally Posted by brightman
So you're only reason for saying that 00's design suck is because of Exia's gunsword gimmick? Here's a newsflash: Exia's ONLY unique part was that gimmick. Without that gimmick, Exia would be completely generic. Its seven sword thing is the most pointless idea ever, and wasn't implemented well in the show at all. And what about the gimmick itself, anyway? Its just a blade that can extend forward or be swung back so the thing becomes a beam rifle... So actually, without the animation and sound effects, its not really impressive at all (its really not that impressive on the models, for exaple).
The 00 design is meant to go hand-in-hand with the 0-riser and the rest of its accessories, so I'd say wait until you see those in action in the anime before saying its design suck just because its gunsword gimmick doesn't make that sound effect when it transforms.
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No, the 00's overall design is already inferior to the Exia. A huge reason that you may called biased is because Exia was the first to come out, so making the 00 the "successor" pretty much requires it to be BETTER, which it's not. All the general stuff that no one can point out specifically because of it's generic BLANDNESS is fail compared to Exia.
Head, chest, legs, you name it. Also is the fact that due to the Exia not having WoW shoulders, it displays a much more well balanced stance, and is almost never in an "awkward position". Try looking at 00's performance to Exia's pause by pause, screen by screen. There are times when 00 doesn't look OMG THIS IS S FREEDAM OF 00, and instead looks WTF ARE THOSE TWO CONES ON ITS SIDES DOING?
The seven swords is one hell of a gimmick, no denying that. But that's like saying Avalanche Exia is gimp, which it IS. The whole point I made throughout S1 was that the best damn Gundam was Exia as plain Exia. NOTHING else. 0 Riser does indeed make 00 look cooler, but you give the damn thing a few years and look back, it won't match up to S Freedom and it's equivalents. Exia WILL rival and surpass Strike, Impulse, and only lose to Rx-78 as a starter Gundam.
The switchblade is NOT a gimmick, because if you actually even took the spare time to try modeling it out yourself, it's clear as day. Does an anime character regardless of robot or not, look cooler holding a giant blade that sticks out of his elbow like Exia? Or does a anime character look cooler with what looks like a DRILL GUN when he's not using it to slice people? Let's not even compare the SWORD art quality, because the current 00 gundam's melee weapons don't even gather enough attention to make it a gimmick.
Models are very different than anime, simply because models regardless of high grade, master grade, or over 9000 grade for all I care can never truly replicate animated characters at this point in time. It's like saying the McLaren F1 looks generic when you look at the hot wheels version. Buddy, have you ever SEEN a McLaren F1 in REAL LIFE? It stuns you. There is no model out there that I've seen that shines like they do on anime, that has the color palettes, nor has the anime-exclusive borders on it to make it what it really is. It's hard to explain, but anyone who believes the models are even close to replicating how any suit looks in 00 (I won't argue against older series because anyone can figure out how to make the Rx-78 look as good if not better than the anime version) anime must be extremely biased.
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The 00 design is meant to go hand-in-hand with the 0-riser and the rest of its accessories, so I'd say wait until you see those in action in the anime before saying its design suck just because its gunsword gimmick doesn't make that sound effect when it transforms.
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I never said the sound effect was the big problem, did I? Thanks for confirming that you didn't understand my main points. The 00's current weapon is nearly a DRILL GUN or a fat BALL POINT PEN that opens up or something and goes PEW PEW then does a few tricks and turns into a Gunsword. The SHAPE is the biggest problem, not the FEATURES. When he splits it apart into two swords, it looks fine and dandy, GENERIC, but that's what the blue and white colors of a main character are. However, when he holds it together using it as a GUN, it looks DUMB AS HELL.
Again, the 0-riser is pretty much trying to trick out your car. It looks neat, but at the same time makes the gundam too tuned out looking. This is still a PERSPECTIVE thing, so it's really up to you whether you believe the 0-riser 00 is awesome sauce, but it pretty much parallels those who like S Freedom more, or those who like the Nu-Gundam more. One is the epitome of DECKED OUT while the other one emphasizes a thoroughbred. 0-Rise 00 belongs with Freedom.
One thing I hate are people who always go WAIT BEFORE YOU COMPLAIN. You are the same people who go WAIT LET SOME MMO DEVELOP FOR TWO YEARS WHILE WE PAY MONTHLY BEFORE CRITICIZING. The whole dang point of this thread and every weekly thread is not to discuss the OVERALL series, it is to discuss the EPISODE, and what partakes in the episode. If it has SUCKED up til that point, then it has SUCKED UP TIL THAT POINT. Why is it so hard for today's generation of trolls and what not to understand that it is OKAY to like something AFTER a certain time duration. Must you LIKE Bush after all he's done just because you voted for him the first time? Why must you wait for ages before criticizing politicians who don't do their jobs from day 1? Because "it's hard and it takes time?"
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The 00 looks like crap. It really does. There's just something about its design that isn't appealing to me this time around. It's not epic enough in appearance!
Tieria has this enormous super-GN-Particle-Firin'MaLazor setup on his...
The 00 has... Exia + Body Mass + Uglification + Twin Drives. Don't get me wrong though, I expect the 00 to have some awesome things going on there. Hopefully they take full advantage of that second power they've been rambling on about (drool included)
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^This is support that the 00 while trying to be the S Freedom of AD, still wants to retain it's starter Gundam Roots, and fails to a point. I won't say 00 is ugly like him, and in fact, it is overall NOT BAD. But I've seen the 0-Riser kit, and it definitely doesn't spell END GAME like S Freedom or even Freedom. Nu Gundam was like the lvl 99 jobless guy in Ragnarok, and it retained it's elegant n00b factor while making it look awesome. Exia is a starter gundam, it FITS the role. 00 does not fit either role, but it tries to, and that is just something ambitious Bandai wanted to try. They clearly overdecked the S Freedom, so they wanted a series that was more close to it's roots, and S1 clearly showed that. There were almost no super upgrades, all the kits were more "optional" and "situational" than "I LEVELED UP BIATCHES".
If you think I believe the 00 looks ugly, you are mistaken. What I am saying is that out of a score of 100 in fitting it's purpose in the show, it only hits a 8X while the Exia scores 9X. Why? Because Exia is scored out of how good it is as a STARTER. You do not COMPARE a ZAKU to a GUNDAM RIGHT? Just like how you don't compare a REALDO to a FLAG because they aren't even in the same CLASS. Exia is NOT IN THE CLASS OF 00. Just because your FERRARI obviously looks RICHER than a tuned out civic doesn't mean your ferrari isn't ugly among ferraris.
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You want Gundams that are 'epic' in appearance, go watch G Gundam.
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G Gundam was not epic, because the whole story was fail. Master ASIA? Please.
Epic has nothing to do with what power level you have, because we all know Mustache Mario Gundam beats all with his twin Wario. What we say when we mean epic (those of us who don't try to use it so LITERALLY in only one value every time) is how it "fits" in the show as end game. Like, if you had NO IDEA what that gundam does, and it just sits there in Ian's garage, how would YOU rate it? FACT is people, if we all went BACK in time 10 years ago, and we saw screenshots of 00 with 0-riser kit just sitting there in the launch bay, could you have POSSIBLY believed it would be as end game epic as Strike Freedom, Guren MK9000(WHATEVER IT WAS THAT RAPED BRITANNIA), Wing Zero Custom, and all those other mechas that make people go LOLUROP? No, you won't. Anyone who does is a bad liar. It all RELIES on the GN particle light show to make it cool.
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