Madan no Ou to Vanadis [Light Novel]

[GrrDraxin]

Well, I'll say that there is also a lot of other inaccuracies in many other areas other than Tigre's archery skills, and that would also be said about their use of other war equipment and personnel, as well as the fact that war in those days was not fought in on-field battles as often as town and stronghold sieges were.

Here is a rather enlightening youtube channel about such things, and why Hollywood (and other places that do movies and TV shows) gets it totally wrong with works set in those time periods. Things like the use of torches, and why they were actually rather rare, for example. So many interesting points about various medieval armors and weapon use. If story writers (as well as film directers and producers) actually did this kind of homework and had some ancient war reenactment experience, many works set into those times would be a lot more realistic.

The channel's trailer should give you a nice quick overview.

YouTube

https://youtu.be/VPlZp1BOTgM

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[Avrorrange]

The lances the knights use in the anime would be one of the most atrocious inaccuracies.Knights do NOT use lances like those in battles.They only use them in tournaments.This is because they are designed to break easily in them.

[El Rue]

Well, if we're gonna get nitpicky about all the inaccuracies then one of the most noticeable is that most of the soldiers shouldn't even be in shiny stylish fullplate mail since they were expensive & is most likely covered in dust & piss even before battle since they weren't easy exactly to remove.


Anywho, It it most likely that this will end up going for the Harem route considering all the clues but the path to it might be interesting or amusing enough. I wonder if he'll end up uniting all the Vanadis under him or officially marry Regin first.

I guess it depends on what future incidences he gets pulled into. More likely a demon orchestrated world wide calamity of sorts, nothing unites humankind like common threat.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by El Rue

Well, if we're gonna get nitpicky about all the inaccuracies then one of the most noticeable is that most of the soldiers shouldn't even be in shiny stylish fullplate mail since they were expensive & is most likely covered in dust & piss even before battle since they weren't easy exactly to remove.


Anywho, It it most likely that this will end up going for the Harem route considering all the clues but the path to it might be interesting or amusing enough. I wonder if he'll end up uniting all the Vanadis under him or officially marry Regin first.

I guess it depends on what future incidences he gets pulled into. More likely a demon orchestrated world wide calamity of sorts, nothing unites humankind like common threat.

Well,towards the end of the medieval period,which was when plate armour was invented,plate armour was mass produced much cheaply and were commonly worn by grunts.

[Amanomurakumo]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Well,towards the end of the medieval period,which was when plate armour was invented,plate armour was mass produced much cheaply and were commonly worn by grunts.

The also did not have teenaged girls wearing skimpy outfits and wielding magical weapons a commanders, dragons did not exist, demons did not exist, etc.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

This whole debate is fine about the legitimacy of the arrows but lets remember what Madan No Ou is really about. (and its not big boobs and battles)
Its about fighting for what you care for. That class isnt everything. That even in a bad situation if you keep a calm head you can still recover. The importance of bonds and how those bonds make you stronger. If you ignore the fanservice which is hard Madan no Ou has some great lessons. Think about it. Tigre is the complete opposite of what one would call a knight but he's somehow gained the respect of many from determination and grit. The fact he does it with a bow when his own country shuns on him is to be respected. All the real life logic aside look at what Tigre did and what he proved. Thats the true takeaway

[Hiyono]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

This whole debate is fine about the legitimacy of the arrows but lets remember what Madan No Ou is really about. (and its not big boobs and battles)
Its about fighting for what you care for. That class isnt everything. That even in a bad situation if you keep a calm head you can still recover. The importance of bonds and how those bonds make you stronger. If you ignore the fanservice which is hard Madan no Ou has some great lessons. Think about it. Tigre is the complete opposite of what one would call a knight but he's somehow gained the respect of many from determination and grit. The fact he does it with a bow when his own country shuns on him is to be respected. All the real life logic aside look at what Tigre did and what he proved. Thats the true takeaway

TIL I like Madan because it's about love and friendship, which is not an element in any other series ever.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Nandesuto

TIL I like Madan because it's about love and friendship, which is not an element in any other series ever.

Doesn't that happen in almost every shounen manga series with all the Nakama powerup bs?

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

Doesn't that happen in almost every shounen manga series with all the Nakama powerup bs?

Yes yes it does. The big 4 (Naruto Bleach OP Fairy Tail) all rely on that

[Hiyono]

My point was rather that everything uses that (read: sarcasm), so it can hardly be the distinguishing factor that makes this series in particular enjoyable.

[Armando99]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

This whole debate is fine about the legitimacy of the arrows but lets remember what Madan No Ou is really about. (and its not big boobs and battles)
Its about fighting for what you care for. That class isnt everything. That even in a bad situation if you keep a calm head you can still recover. The importance of bonds and how those bonds make you stronger. If you ignore the fanservice which is hard Madan no Ou has some great lessons. Think about it. Tigre is the complete opposite of what one would call a knight but he's somehow gained the respect of many from determination and grit. The fact he does it with a bow when his own country shuns on him is to be respected. All the real life logic aside look at what Tigre did and what he proved. Thats the true takeaway

I have to disagree with you somewhat. Tigre is the opposite of what you would call a knight? I hope you meant the opposite because most of his actions reflect that of a true knight. A true knight is judged by his actions rather than words. Yes his weapon might not be atypical but I think that is a minor point considering the results from his use of it.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Armando99

I have to disagree with you somewhat. Tigre is the opposite of what you would call a knight? I hope you meant the opposite because most of his actions reflect that of a true knight. A true knight is judged by his actions rather than words. Yes his weapon might not be atypical but I think that is a minor point considering the results from his use of it.

Then you do slightly misunderstand my point. My point is that before the series started Tigre is hardly what one would consider a knight appearance wise and weapon wise but he's come as far as he has because he has a good heart and fights like a knight.

[Avrorrange]

I assumed Tigre must have been knighted somewhere in the past when he became an earl.

[Hiyono]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Then you do slightly misunderstand my point. My point is that before the series started Tigre is hardly what one would consider a knight appearance wise and weapon wise but he's come as far as he has because he has a good heart and fights like a knight.

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

I assumed Tigre must have been knighted somewhere in the past when he became an earl.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Nandesuto

What?!All nobles at the same the rank or above of baron would have been knighted regardless of whether they have the aptitude when they come of age since they are supposed to be the lord of a number of knights.

[black knight iust]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

(and its not big boobs and battles)

dam, that's what I was guessing to. JK.

[dragon213]

anyone who have heard anything about volume 11?

Also the distance between Ellen and Tigre did get smaller at the end of volume 10 right? You could see even during the time that he had lost his memories that Ellen seemed to hold a special place in his heart and after he regained his memories while he didn't say it so anyone could hear it so did he admit that he didn't want to get seperated from Ellen, which is a hint that he love her like she love him.

[Hiyono]

Originally Posted by dragon213

anyone who have heard anything about volume 11?

Dated for March 25.

[dragon213]

Originally Posted by Nandesuto

Dated for March 25.

7 days after my birthday huh? would have been a nice present if it came out on it but it's fine anyway

[Newhope]

Originally Posted by Moe Connection

I assumed Tigre must have been knighted somewhere in the past when he became an earl.

IRL not all nobles where knights.