Maou Gakuen No Hangyakusha(魔王学園の反逆者) [Light Novel]

[SirCopert]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

@dragon213: Thanks for the info on Rikimaru.

@SirCopert: Miyako is Miyabi's mother, right? I do get that feeling from her (that she might join the harem or may already have joined). Stella I'm not sure about it.

Yes, she is Miyabi's mother and in fact I was referring more to the future. There is also Rikimaru, after she has been defeated by Yuuto it is possible that she begins to have romantic feelings for him, she looks like the classic line: "Best Her to Bed Her", then she is a tomboy and she is strong, I don't it would be surprising if Masamune Kuji decided to put her in his harem.

@DragonOsman: Death's candidate is called Lost.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, Lost. Thanks.

@dragon213: I think we should Oyakodons in Japanese stories. It does seem unlikely for Miyabi to allow it, but something still happen. We'll have to wait and see. Either way, Miyako herself totally seems to want it herself.

@SirCopert: You might be right about Rikimaru. We'll see.

[yuiichi9]

In the novels it say rikimaru chest is big but in the illustrations she looks flat. What is her real appearance?

Her red hair was tied into a ponytail so that she could move easily. Her body was muscular with low body fat percentage, but the chest that she puffed out proudly was mysteriously big.

Candidates that drop from the war can become cards.

「I still don’t have any Card. I’m going to choose good Cards from the candidates who drop out.」

This is my opinion. There might be at least 3 factions in the war. Conservatives, those who won't make drastic changes to the culture, traditions and way of life of demons. Revolutionaries, the mc and his allies. They might change the values and way of life of demons. Rebels, lost(death arcana) and his allies. Destruction of the current devil society.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by yuiichi9

In the novels it say rikimaru chest is big but in the illustrations she looks flat. What is her real appearance?

Probably the illustrator changed it because he though she looked better this way.

This is my opinion. There might be at least 3 factions in the war. Conservatives, those who won't make drastic changes to the culture, traditions and way of life of demons. Revolutionaries, the mc and his allies. They might change the values and way of life of demons. Rebels, lost(death arcana) and his allies. Destruction of the current devil society.

I was thinking the same thing. The Triumph that we keep hearing about might be the conservatives here.

[Ophis]

Just to clarify things a little:

The twin in sportswear is Sannou Rikimaru (力丸), Devil King of "Strength".

The twin in black is Sannou Seigi (正義), Devil King of "Justice".

[DragonOsman]

@yuiichi: The illustrator either made a mistake or we were mixing Rikimaru up with a different character (read Ophis' recent comment). I've noticed many situations where the illustrations don't match with the text in the novel--this just could've been one of them.

@Ophis: Thanks for the clarification.

[SirCopert]

I hope that shortly bp will continue with the translation of volume 4

[DragonOsman]

He already did. Prologue is updated. You need to get to Volume 4 after clicking on "Next" in the Volume 3 Afterword page for now, though.

[dragon213]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

He already did. Prologue is updated. You need to get to Volume 4 after clicking on "Next" in the Volume 3 Afterword page for now, though.

I think he means the next chapter, chapter 1

Chapter 1 has been published and it gave a hint to something that has been suggested before and something I also suspected was the case.

[DragonOsman]

Chapters 1, 2 and 3 were updated on Bakapervert's blog some time ago.

I'm glad that we finally know what the Himekami family's bloodline magic is. It'd be good if we could find out more about it.

I'm really looking forward to finding out what the offensive characteristic magic of Lovers is, but I also want to know if Yuuto really can't use Cupid. From the name, it seems to be connected to Lovers, so he can probably become able to use it. It's also possible that Lizel is right and he can't use it, but I also think there's still a possibility that he can.

Neith will join the harem. The chapters until now all seem to hint it.

And I'm still wondering when Yuuto will find out that Lizel and Miyabi love him. And also when he'll try to confess to Lizel (he loves her, no?).

[EvI]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

And I'm still wondering when Yuuto will find out that Lizel and Miyabi love him. And also when he'll try to confess to Lizel (he loves her, no?).

I think he already knows tho. And yeah Lizel is his sweetheeart but it's complicated, if he confess to Lizel then what about Miyabi and the whole lovers dynamic? Will they simple accept okay let's share? This is not a situation that ends with a simply "i love you""Okay let's date". Let's not even mention Lizel is hiding things from him and even sealed his memory of her during their childhood. Nah man, i think he is taking his time to see where this goes and deepen their bonds together.

[DragonOsman]

I think it'll end up being a True Harem. He'll likely grow to love all three, if he hasn't already.

But yeah, he does need to remember their past together first. And their bond needs to deepen.

By the way, do you remember Lizel saying in Volume 1 that Healing Lovers is more effective if both parties love each other? That's the whole point of Lovers I think: the Devil King candidate and his/her Cards must have a bond of love to be able to bring out the arcana's full power. Devils normally can't do that, according to Lizel (she said something like that when they fought the candidate of The Devil). A human like Yuuto is the perfect candidate for Lovers for that reason.

Also I think Yuuto is dense because there are many situations where it seems like he doesn't know the girls love him. And he still acts too formal with Lizel and seems to think he shouldn't get touchy-feely with her. Whenever he notices he's getting a lap pillow or something from her, he always tries to back away and apologize as if he thinks he's doing she doesn't want him to. And in Chapter 1 of Volume 4, when he stood in front of Neith to stand up for her in front of Stella, he misunderstood the reason for the tears in Neith's eyes and the blush. These are all signs of a dense boy. He doesn't understand anything.

[EvI]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

I think it'll end up being a True Harem. He'll likely grow to love all three, if he hasn't already.

But yeah, he does need to remember their past together first. And their bond needs to deepen.

By the way, do you remember Lizel saying in Volume 1 that Healing Lovers is more effective if both parties love each other? That's the whole point of Lovers I think: the Devil King candidate and his/her Cards must have a bond of love to be able to bring out the arcana's full power. Devils normally can't do that, according to Lizel (she said something like that when they fought the candidate of The Devil). A human like Yuuto is the perfect candidate for Lovers for that reason.

Also I think Yuuto is dense because there are many situations where it seems like he doesn't know the girls love him. And he still acts too formal with Lizel and seems to think he shouldn't get touchy-feely with her. Whenever he notices he's getting a lap pillow or something from her, he always tries to back away and apologize as if he thinks he's doing she doesn't want him to. And in Chapter 1 of Volume 4, when he stood in front of Neith to stand up for her in front of Stella, he misunderstood the reason for the tears in Neith's eyes and the blush. These are all signs of a dense boy. He doesn't understand anything.

It's more like, lack of self-confidence(like all japanese seems to suffer from) then denseness really. If someone tells one of us "you don't suit that girl" we be like, "oh well f*ck you" and do our best to stay with her, there? "Hm, maybe i'm not worth of her bla bla...should step away bla bla bla...".

But in this volume we are seeing Yuuto getting more assertive with them like when he praised Lizel for her sexiness in that swinsuit at night and stuff, and i'm hoping it stays that way in future volumes as well.

[DragonOsman]

In some series I've read, the MC is actually better than that. Even Japanese MCs. Not all Japanese MCs are like this, you know.

But yeah, I agree with you. Hopefully he'll stay assertive and even get better.

The thing with Neith that I mentioned can't be excused by what you said, by the way.

[Gundam Meister]

Translation for volume 4 are finished and we got an confirmation that yes a Devil King candidate can make another Devil King candidate his card i guessing that Stella will potentially become Yuuto's Ace

[CCPDarkraiRules]

Originally Posted by Gundam Meister

Translation for volume 4 are finished and we got an confirmation that yes a Devil King candidate can make another Devil King candidate his card i guessing that Stella will potentially become Yuuto's Ace

I had the same thought that Stella will probably become Yuuto's Ace.

[DragonOsman]

Neith becoming Suite VII was surprising for me. I thought it fit after reading the explanation, though.

Stella becoming Yuuto's Ace sounds interesting. If she does become one of his cards, it seems like it'd make the most sense for her to become his Ace.

I wonder how Neith can still keep her arcana, though. Shouldn't she lose it if she became a Card of another candidate?

It'd good that Yuuto's starting to remember bits from his past with Lizel. I'm really looking forward to their past being revealed in future Volumes. I'm thinking the other girl from Yuuto's dream where he saw kid Lizel may be the Lovers Arcana or something related to it (personification, maybe?).

Speaking of Yuuto's memories, he seems to also remember something about Lost that he said felt painful. I wonder what it is. Maybe Yuuto, Lost and Lizel share a past. Lost also said something like "It must be that woman" after Yuuto told him he can't join someone like him who wants to destroy everything because he wants to create a world where everyone can live in peace.

[SirCopert]

I've read volume 4! I am glad that Neith has finally become his card, I did not even know it was possible to tell the truth and I also think that Stella will become his Ace. It seems that the identity of Lost has been revealed

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

Neith becoming Suite VII was surprising for me. I thought it fit after reading the explanation, though.

Stella becoming Yuuto's Ace sounds interesting. If she does become one of his cards, it seems like it'd make the most sense for her to become his Ace.

I wonder how Neith can still keep her arcana, though. Shouldn't she lose it if she became a Card of another candidate?

It'd good that Yuuto's starting to remember bits from his past with Lizel. I'm really looking forward to their past being revealed in future Volumes. I'm thinking the other girl from Yuuto's dream where he saw kid Lizel may be the Lovers Arcana or something related to it (personification, maybe?).

Speaking of Yuuto's memories, he seems to also remember something about Lost that he said felt painful. I wonder what it is. Maybe Yuuto, Lost and Lizel share a past. Lost also said something like "It must be that woman" after Yuuto told him he can't join someone like him who wants to destroy everything because he wants to create a world where everyone can live in peace.

Maybe Lost is Yuuto's childhood friend and he has feelings for him

[DragonOsman]

I'm dreading that being the case, yeah.

He also shares a past with Lizel but doesn't remember, though it's starting to come back. But something painful for him in his memory of Lost that was seemingly triggered. I wonder what that's about.

Then there's this from Chapter 4:

Her figure had turned into an adult before I realized it.

「Lizel-senpai.」

「What?」

「Had I, ever met senpai here in the past?」

Lizel-senpai’s expression froze.

「……Yuuto? You──」

*DOON* A loud sound reverberated at that time.

A large flower bloomed at the night sky.

A bright light was spreading in red and blue color. The glittering light was raining down.

「Yuuto……I……」

The firework illuminated the sky once more.

──?

Where she said "Yuuto……I……", I think she was going to tell him something. I don't this was her being surprised by him remembering something he shouldn't be able to yet because that was before this, where she said, "……Yuuto? You──". I'm thinking she may have wanted to tell him something about their past or about why he can't remember.

[SirCopert]

Anyway, it bothered me that Seigi isn't dead, I hate that kind of characters. I hope she gets killed in the next volume. I was also a bit disappointed that Rikumaru died and didn't enter Yuuto's harem, I saw her in his harem, but deep down maybe it's better this way.
But I'm glad I saw the Headmaster's true strength, or at least a small part of it. I can assume that the true abilities of Justice is to cut and annihilate everything, the Star and the Sun can very well be understood while for the World to create a dimension in itself. For the Devil I don't know, he was killed before he showed other characteristic spells and the Lovers who knows, I'm curious to know what his characteristic offensive magic is.