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Old 2018-08-25, 07:44   Link #12341
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Campione's Authorities sort of works like an Arm Race. If one suddenly got cheat-like powers, others would likely start earning similar abilities out of sheer "fuck destiny" aura they have. Fiest Godou and Aisha got alternate worlds travelling power, everyone started having similar Authorities. Same with Fate-negating/destroying ones now.
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Old 2018-08-25, 10:55   Link #12342
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Next volume would probably be Ren vs Apollo

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Old 2018-08-25, 18:06   Link #12343
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From the myth Apollo was indeed scumbag
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Old 2018-08-25, 22:47   Link #12344
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From the myth Apollo was indeed scumbag
Everyone is a scumbag in polytheistic myths. Hades is actually the nicest guy in Greek myth for one thing, despite how much movies and pop culture like to portray him as the bad guy.
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Old 2018-08-26, 01:37   Link #12345
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Everyone is a scumbag in polytheistic myths. Hades is actually the nicest guy in Greek myth for one thing, despite how much movies and pop culture like to portray him as the bad guy.
Actually it's mostly just the Greek (and Roman) myths that are like that from what I know. Norse myths tend to portray the gods as on our side (Odin hangs himself on a tree or something so we could use magic) and Thor is a bro to humans. Egyptian gods were supposedly responsible for everything that made life livable in the desert. Though the Mayan gods had a thing for sacrifice, so...
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Old 2018-08-26, 02:28   Link #12346
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It seems that the entrance to sanctuary appears in this story has some connections to Aisha's fairy corridor. I wonder all the event in this story was kickstarted by her?

Please, don't tell me that her authority is evolving, because sending someone to a parallel world is on a whole other level compared to time travel.
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Old 2018-08-26, 05:02   Link #12347
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It's Aisha after all. I'm sure there is some way it ends up being her fault.
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Old 2018-08-26, 05:18   Link #12348
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It seems that the entrance to sanctuary appears in this story has some connections to Aisha's fairy corridor. I wonder all the event in this story was kickstarted by her?

Please, don't tell me that her authority is evolving, because sending someone to a parallel world is on a whole other level compared to time travel.
Wasn't she "sealed" along with the others because her authority was forcefully made to go out of control thus sending many campiones to another world? (At the end of the story) It isn't evolving its just her authority at its highest level. Speaking of which fairy corridor makes mini alternate worlds by going to the past thus creating new/old timelines. Thats just at the normal lvl too. e.e

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It's Aisha after all. I'm sure there is some way it ends up being her fault.
Yes soooooo many things are her fault. Whether she is aware of it or not. (She is but pretends not to be) She has screwed up the world and timeline countless times. Her being involved in another story makes sense...ever if a different author wrote the story. We all feel like how all the other Campiones feel. Why won't she just go away? No matter how much we try its impossible. x.x
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Old 2018-08-26, 07:54   Link #12349
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Next volume would probably be Ren vs Apollo

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Old 2018-08-27, 08:39   Link #12350
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I really want to read a translation of Voban's fate cutting authority in action. I mean I can't imagine how this authority actually work in battle. The wiki said that he defeated Ren with this power.

If Voban has this during the civil war. I'm quite sure that Rama would be completely killed.

Somehow, I think that campione's authorities are moving further into hax territory. We have 2 fate manipulation authorities and one causality manipulation.

If you compare between Godou and Ren's authority together, I'd say that Ren's Nemesis authority is the stronger and user friendlier of the two.

1. The usage is really loose compare to Godou is 10 incarnation.
2. Bull, Camel, Goat, and maybe White Stallion can be countered with his causality reflection move.
3. Raptor and Boar can be avoid by using his own version of godspeed which the wiki states that it has a very small drawback from using them, which is completely opposite to Godou's 'Raptor'.

'Warrior' doesn't count because it's equally bullshit to Ren's authority.
Ren's Godspeed is much less than Godou's, the speed of the two can not even be compared. Ren's ability also seems to depend on what he is able to see, this difference in speed would make him lose easily, the same would apply to the White Stallion that has speed of light.
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Old 2018-08-27, 08:54   Link #12351
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Can someone list Ren's authorities? I couldn't find it on a/the wiki.
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Old 2018-08-27, 09:04   Link #12352
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Ren's Godspeed is much less than Godou's, the speed of the two can not even be compared. Ren's ability also seems to depend on what he is able to see, this difference in speed would make him lose easily, the same would apply to the White Stallion that has speed of light.
1. Ren's godspeed has the same velocity as Godou's [Raptor] since it also allows him to to do the same feat as [Raptor] like avoiding lightning or cover 5 km or more within a few seconds. This authority also improve Ren's perception speed to the point that he can react to lightning(150 km/s). There's not much differences between them in terms of speed.

2. [White Stallion] is not light speed. The one that has speed of light is a combination between [White Stallion] and [Warrior].
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Old 2018-08-28, 17:30   Link #12353
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1. Ren's godspeed has the same velocity as Godou's [Raptor] since it also allows him to to do the same feat as [Raptor] like avoiding lightning or cover 5 km or more within a few seconds. This authority also improve Ren's perception speed to the point that he can react to lightning(150 km/s). There's not much differences between them in terms of speed.

2. [White Stallion] is not light speed. The one that has speed of light is a combination between [White Stallion] and [Warrior].
Even Sun Wukong in Hikari's body was faster than Ren.

Reacting to Godou's rays can make even without the Raptor, this is proven by fighting against Uldin, even Erika reacts to lightning.

A godspeed in Campione! is almost equal to the light, this is proven when the one of Sun Wukong is compared to the attacks of Godou.

White Stallion has the speed of light, even without being used in the fusion, this is shown in volume 18.


Even the divine beasts invoked by Sun Wukong were as fast as lightning, you just did not pay attention right in your reading, so you did not understand how speed works within the Light Novel universe.
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Old 2018-09-01, 05:29   Link #12354
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Apparently, there’s someone doing the translation of the second series in spanish!
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Old 2018-09-01, 15:56   Link #12355
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It is perhaps interesting. It's easier to read Spanish than Japanese.

On the other hand, where did you see that ? I tried to search, without success.
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Old 2018-09-02, 07:26   Link #12356
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Here's the information about the new MC (shiniki no campionees)
Name: Rokuhara ren
Age:19~20
Personality:Extremely easy going, can get along with anyone including gods(Some gods can't sense a killing intent from him.) and has a lot of experience with women. (Wiki translation is a bit muddy, so there might be some slight inaccuracies)
Occupation:College students, God Killer(This world's campione)
Fightning style: Boxing
List of the gods he'd slain: Nemesis and Nike(All goddesses, see the pattern here?)
Herem member: Toba Riona, Stella(Aphrodite), Cassandra

Authority lists:

1. Nemesis's cause and consequence(Nemesis):
1.1 This authority allows him to reflect all kind of attacks(enemy's weapons, beast nails and fangs and god's authorities). It's a causality manipulation authority.
1.2 To reflect enemy's attack user has to see the attack till the last minute. (It can't be use when unconscious)
1.3 When activated the user gained visual acuity that could catch up with godspeed(150 KM/S)
1.4 The user can stockpile the attack in a form of arrow. As a goddess of justice, the more sins opponent has committed, the more powerful the attack will be.
1.5 This authority isn't reflecting attack normally, but replaying it back to the opponent(It has an element of time manipulation)
1.6 It can be applied to object that isn't user.
1.7 It can punish people according to the sins they've committed(This part is extremely messed up in the wiki, so take it with a grain of salt.)
1.8 It grants him godspeed. Normally, it's a little bit faster than normal human, when fully activate Ren will gain speed and reflex of godspeed. It's fast enough to evade a lightning strike and cover a distance of 5 km or more within a few seconds. User can move freely even underwater. It is a form of time manipulation under a principle of "I'm moving to the future a little bit faster". This power can't be used by two individuals at once, since it will cause the authority to go haywire. A burden from using godspeed to the body is extremely small.
1.9 It can create an avatar of Nemesis as an illusion.
1.10 If user put his life on the line the power will increase dramatically which is enough to kill god several times over.

There's are drawbacks that when use heart and lungs function will slowly deteriorate. If the pain passes the upper limit the user will die. It also hard to instantly reflect the large scale attack, and country busting will have a very high possibility of failure.
Here's an update on Ren's Nemesis authority.

1. Ren's authority is extremely flexible and can do many things as long as it suits the description:

'Taking all the cruelty seen by his eyes as trigger, Ren activated its authority, equitable remuneration. Authority is normally reflected all attacks directed at Rokuhara Ren, however, he could make a deal to add an extra function.

So is. Ren Authority, the Murderer of the Gods, was not a strict and accurate. In other words, it would be natural to say it was even somewhat flexible. You could do several things that have never before been thought using only his mind and spirit, such as the Protection of the compensation had been awarded to Cassandra.'

2. He can invoke a retribution in a form of 'living dead' to punish greek's army in vol.1. The novel describes an amount of undead he can summon is almost two thousand:

'Rokuhara Ren, the person who had invoked, intuited that at least the amount of undead grew almost on par with the two thousand Greek soldiers attackers. And so the monsters went to the Trojan forces and headed for the Greeks as a tsunami.'

3. Ren won't die if he uses his authority to its absolute limit but, will enter a state of suspended animation.

'He murmured as his chest with his hand clutched. He was beaten with a like a knife through his chest pain. He could reflect any attack using overwhelming Authority Nemesis, but the pain it would have caused the same invade. He had confirmed that it could also enter a state of suspended animation if the pain exceeded a certain limit. That in the midst of a battle would be a fatal drawback, therefore, Julio had told him not to use it so lightly.'

This is his incantation: "The future events are caused by mistakes of the past. Oh, Destiny, now is the time to embody the thread of Retribution. "

This is quote demonstrate how his his stockpile retribution works:

'To the brave statements of Athena, Ren ... finally released its arsenal. He began to attack with all the blows and attacks that had received so far since coming to the Shrine of Troy. Around him, his left and right, up and down, were various gods divine objects floating around. First it was the turn of the spear carrying the god Poseidon, but it was only there because they were at least about twenty spears. They were also available rays had received from Zeus. All gathered into a mass energy, and amount were also at least twenty. And finally, at least thirty energy balls which had been triggered by Athena a moment ago.

In addition, both the shield of Achilles like the sword of Ajax the Lesser floated alongside other divine tools. And so, all weapons and lightning hung from the hands of the goddess Nemesis. After that they came about seventy avengers and began firing power of retribution.

"Ooh!"
Bright eyes of the goddess opened wide because of the admiration and surprise.

"So you manipulated the cause and effect to reproduce things of the past!" '

PS. All the information + quotes came from spanish translation with some help from google translate so, take this with a grain of salt.
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Old 2018-09-02, 08:01   Link #12357
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First vol end with battle against Athena
Second vol end with battle against Voban
It same as Godou right
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Old 2018-09-19, 22:12   Link #12358
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Here's an update on Voban's status: Dead(Burned to ashes(Again)) (Probably this, but the translation is muddy.)

In this Volume, Voban fought Ren and beat him rather easily. Here's the quote that pretty much sum it up.

[I'll give it back to you...I am Dejansthal Voban. You should bow down to the "King" who's far beyond you!]

At the end, Voban tag team with Surtr to cause ragnarok. Legion of hungry wolf and Ragnarok wolf were sealed by Vidar's shoes, and he was burned to ashes(This part is vague). However, he promised Ren a rematch.

This is a list of his lost authorities.

1.1 Eyes of Sodom
1.2 Dead ring
1.3 Otherland's dragon(*)
1.4 Bloody Blessing

* I highly doubt that he lost his Otherland's dragon, since he promise Ren a rematch.

Right now, Voban has 6 authorities

1. Legion of hungry wolf
2. Strum und Drang
3. Red punishment
4. Singing spell book
5. Ragnarok wolf
6. Unnamed authority

PS. All of this information came from wiki and google translate.
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Old 2018-10-19, 14:34   Link #12359
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Vol 4 is coming out in december 21.
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Old 2018-11-01, 09:09   Link #12360
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Cast for the audio drama that will be release with the V4 in december 21.
Cast:
Rokuhara Ren: Jun Fukushima
Toba Riona: Rumi Ookubo
Stella: Hieda Nene
Cassandra: Suwa Ayaka
Kusanagi Godou: Yoshitsugu Matsuoka
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