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Old 2017-07-21, 22:54   Link #61
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I saw the opening and it referenced Player Unknown's Battle Grounds.
I mean referencing some game that has early access and not really released yet.
The game must be that good, too bad for Keita to be head shot though.

The series is actually better than I expected too.
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Old 2017-07-21, 23:20   Link #62
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the reveal of the 'ikeman' was pretty fun, and then the reveal of his girlfriend. wow.
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Old 2017-07-22, 00:06   Link #63
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While I admire Amano for his not having any fucks to give on how and what people see him as, he really needs to learn not to be so oblivious to everything else. Gaming and general nerd culture isn't exactly the socially outcasted activity is may once was, at least not outside of Japan. Considering how gamers from casuals to pros earn a nice living and are considered bigger than fucking rock stars in some countries, I will as usually never fully understand why Japanese culture seems to still put a social stigma on it.

That said goddammit Amano you scrublord, one does not simply play Narukami "Swagmuffin" Yu and lose. To Teddy of all people.
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Old 2017-07-22, 05:27   Link #64
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The characterisation is this show turning out to be one of it strong suit's I feel, as all the cast seem to have more depth than expected.
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Old 2017-07-23, 09:29   Link #65
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While I admire Amano for his not having any fucks to give on how and what people see him as, he really needs to learn not to be so oblivious to everything else. Gaming and general nerd culture isn't exactly the socially outcasted activity is may once was, at least not outside of Japan. Considering how gamers from casuals to pros earn a nice living and are considered bigger than fucking rock stars in some countries, I will as usually never fully understand why Japanese culture seems to still put a social stigma on it.

That said goddammit Amano you scrublord, one does not simply play Narukami "Swagmuffin" Yu and lose. To Teddy of all people.
it was more about how he didn't (dare) to make an effort to fit in, just like how Takusu accurately called him out on that. Sure, it is improbable to get along with everybody, but at least give it a try and see how it goes.
It was fair for Amano to say that he only played game for fun, but shouldn't he communicate that clearly to the other party before he refused the offer?

well, in a sense I can see that our MC is a flawed character, but that can be a plus if handled properly.

Also, like some have mentioned, I can respect our MC to stand by his decision, at least he wasn't a complete sucker , he was like: "Hey, I'm not gonna change my mind just because you ask me gurl!" hahaha
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Old 2017-07-23, 10:27   Link #66
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I read a relationship chart that kind of spoiled the plot a bit, but damn this show is good. I like all the characters so far. Definitely a keeper.
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Old 2017-07-23, 11:49   Link #67
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Liking so far. I enjoyed the relationship between the main hero and heroine, but seriously Tasuku and Aguri are just adorable. I get the feeling he's going to gradually grow slightly distant from the "in" crowd he's hanging with right now. He's already jaded about these people even if he's afraid to go back to what he was. But in Amano he's found someone who's happy to be what he is who will I'm sure make a good friend, and now he has further proof that the people who really matter will and do like him for himself, and would not mind at all if he remained what he once was.

Bonus for Karen's breakdown. That lovestruck, drooling, brainless grin at the end was at once hilarious and adorable.
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Old 2017-07-27, 11:08   Link #68
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Episode 3:

I kinda like Chiaki tbh. She's cute but I do hope she grows more confident around certain people. Her interactions with Amano is priceless so far.

Now I kinda get why this show has 'misunderstanding' as part of its premise. I mean, that last scene from this week's episode....
Also, is it just me or does Tendou feel kinda like a side character so far? (from these past two episodes at least)
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Old 2017-07-27, 11:40   Link #69
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They should have called this series Players, rather than gamers
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Old 2017-07-27, 12:05   Link #70
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Poor Tendou, she's supposed to be a main character right? She's getting shoved aside lately.

Ahh, the bonding between Chiaki and Amano were great though, so is the argument. Gotta agree with Chiaki though, gameplay and story all the way.
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Old 2017-07-27, 12:15   Link #71
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Episode 3:

I kinda like Chiaki tbh. She's cute but I do hope she grows more confident around certain people. Her interactions with Amano is priceless so far.

Now I kinda get why this show has 'misunderstanding' as part of its premise. I mean, that last scene from this week's episode....
Also, is it just me or does Tendou feel kinda like a side character so far? (from these past two episodes at least)


That escalated pretty fast. I bet that's not a misunderstanding in the long run.

He was wondering why he was still with his current girlfriend, now he found a replacement.
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Old 2017-07-27, 12:26   Link #72
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Episode 3:

I kinda like Chiaki tbh. She's cute but I do hope she grows more confident around certain people. Her interactions with Amano is priceless so far.

Now I kinda get why this show has 'misunderstanding' as part of its premise. I mean, that last scene from this week's episode....
Also, is it just me or does Tendou feel kinda like a side character so far? (from these past two episodes at least)
You know it's a self satisfying itself to see a main girl especially blonde get sidelined treatment
This anime is gold i am glad i made right choice to had waited this anime for summer.
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Old 2017-07-27, 12:31   Link #73
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Poor Tendou, she's supposed to be a main character right? She's getting shoved aside lately.

Ahh, the bonding between Chiaki and Amano were great though, so is the argument. Gotta agree with Chiaki though, gameplay and story all the way.
i gonna agree with you about "gameplay and story, that is why i hate characters like amano which are really the generic mc type insert otaku, he is even worst "loner case", he not only a loner gamer casual but also a creep 2d girls lover, which only play game if the girl is moe, it's really irk me a lot, this show why otakus are saw soo bad in japan, that sort of mind is really weird.

wow this anime is really doing something so far, basically the guy getting the "harem route" is the "school male friend" which normally is the most "loner" than the mc and less interested in girls, but somehow he is being the one raising flags, lol, let's see where things are going, but for sure i really not fan of mc cowardice specially due to games and his "poor reason" to not join the club, because even themselfs don't believe on they own reasons to not join.
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Old 2017-07-27, 14:05   Link #74
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Whoever is responsible for this series is clearly a fan of old Hollywood screwball romantic comedies. This episode was excellent with its compounding misunderstandings. I laughed the entire way through!
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Old 2017-07-27, 14:06   Link #75
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i gonna agree with you about "gameplay and story, that is why i hate characters like amano which are really the generic mc type insert otaku, he is even worst "loner case", he not only a loner gamer casual but also a creep 2d girls lover, which only play game if the girl is moe, it's really irk me a lot, this show why otakus are saw soo bad in japan, that sort of mind is really weird.

wow this anime is really doing something so far, basically the guy getting the "harem route" is the "school male friend" which normally is the most "loner" than the mc and less interested in girls, but somehow he is being the one raising flags, lol, let's see where things are going, but for sure i really not fan of mc cowardice specially due to games and his "poor reason" to not join the club, because even themselfs don't believe on they own reasons to not join.
I don't recall him saying anything about not playing games if it doesn't have moe girl characters in it, Didn't say that once. He just said that he's seen foreign games where he wished the female characters were cuter. That's a huge difference. Furthermore, I haven't seen anything to suggest one iota that Keita is a "2D-only" type. He showed a very strong reaction to Tendou and reacted strongly again this episode when asked if he was at the classroom to see her. Just because he loves 2D girls doesn't automatically translate into him hating 3D. Rather, it's just that he has no more confidence than Chiaki, and thus believes that 3D won't like him even if he likes them. Just listen to the stuff he says about himself while talking with Tasuku. Your impression as you described it sounds more like seeing what you expect to see and not noticing anything else, since again his actions and behavior doesn't resemble your description very well.

As for "harem-building", I don't think we can really call it that so far. One girl is absolutely dedicated to Keita. One is dating Tasuku, and one is in between, attracted to Tasuku but not really knowing him at all (I think Keita wasn't all that far off comparing it to a guy's response to moe girls), while at the same time great friends with Keita and relating very well with him. I get the feelings some more things might shake up. I'm seriously hoping that Chiaki gets over her minor attraction as well as her minor difference in opinion. Don't know whether I want her to become the main love interest, but I definitely want her to be a love interest of Keita's.
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Old 2017-07-27, 15:30   Link #76
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I don't recall him saying anything about not playing games if it doesn't have moe girl characters in it, Didn't say that once. He just said that he's seen foreign games where he wished the female characters were cuter. That's a huge difference. Furthermore, I haven't seen anything to suggest one iota that Keita is a "2D-only" type. He showed a very strong reaction to Tendou and reacted strongly again this episode when asked if he was at the classroom to see her. Just because he loves 2D girls doesn't automatically translate into him hating 3D. Rather, it's just that he has no more confidence than Chiaki, and thus believes that 3D won't like him even if he likes them. Just listen to the stuff he says about himself while talking with Tasuku. Your impression as you described it sounds more like seeing what you expect to see and not noticing anything else, since again his actions and behavior doesn't resemble your description very well.

As for "harem-building", I don't think we can really call it that so far. One girl is absolutely dedicated to Keita. One is dating Tasuku, and one is in between, attracted to Tasuku but not really knowing him at all (I think Keita wasn't all that far off comparing it to a guy's response to moe girls), while at the same time great friends with Keita and relating very well with him. I get the feelings some more things might shake up. I'm seriously hoping that Chiaki gets over her minor attraction as well as her minor difference in opinion. Don't know whether I want her to become the main love interest, but I definitely want her to be a love interest of Keita's.
he say which for him like many 2d otakus, have a moe girl is one of the most important things even more important than plot and story, many 2d obssessed guys start like him, doubt about "3d or real life" which is too harsh and hard for then, them they start to "give up" in 3d and focus on 2d only, while he still don't achieved that level, if nothing is doing toward him, like his frend told, work on his personality, he can pretty much end as a hikikomori loner, only loving 2d world and interacting with peoples only throught internet and all that, this is a big issue for him.

even his friend hotguy is the "generic friend" which instead of proper help him improve his relationship with the main girl what is his advice???, when you have a girl interested in your and maybe you also is interested on her but is too shy??? go flirt with other girl!!???? this is this most stupid romantic advice i can see someone pulling, like his friend just want to see the mess even grow, because he want to see a romcom which is something which happen on a lot of that serie where friends instead of actually trying to help or they don't do any help or trying to make things even worse like or advice mc goes for others girls or advice others girls to go for mc to enforce the harem thing.

about the harem i was playing around, so far i like what i'm getting and honestly hope "no real harem here" because so far is more interesting in that way, than the serie just turn into your "generic looser" magnetic chicken mc serie, which start to attract every chicken but due to being the "looser pathetic" can't accept any and all that cliche generic thing which novel and anime market already satured , i would prefer even no romance and things keep like that on a lot of missunderstood and weird situations like that which could be really fun and "original" which nowadays is a big issue in japan to be "original", only few writers are trying on that path and due to "otakus" tastes even among that "few" only few of then are being sucessfull which is true sad.
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he say which for him like many 2d otakus, have a moe girl is one of the most important things even more important than plot and story, many 2d obssessed guys start like him, doubt about "3d or real life" which is too harsh and hard for then, them they start to "give up" in 3d and focus on 2d only, while he still don't achieved that level, if nothing is doing toward him, like his frend told, work on his personality, he can pretty much end as a hikikomori loner, only loving 2d world and interacting with peoples only throught internet and all that, this is a big issue for him.

even his friend hotguy is the "generic friend" which instead of proper help him improve his relationship with the main girl what is his advice???, when you have a girl interested in your and maybe you also is interested on her but is too shy??? go flirt with other girl!!???? this is this most stupid romantic advice i can see someone pulling, like his friend just want to see the mess even grow, because he want to see a romcom which is something which happen on a lot of that serie where friends instead of actually trying to help or they don't do any help or trying to make things even worse like or advice mc goes for others girls or advice others girls to go for mc to enforce the harem thing.

about the harem i was playing around, so far i like what i'm getting and honestly hope "no real harem here" because so far is more interesting in that way, than the serie just turn into your "generic looser" magnetic chicken mc serie, which start to attract every chicken but due to being the "looser pathetic" can't accept any and all that cliche generic thing which novel and anime market already satured , i would prefer even no romance and things keep like that on a lot of missunderstood and weird situations like that which could be really fun and "original" which nowadays is a big issue in japan to be "original", only few writers are trying on that path and due to "otakus" tastes even among that "few" only few of then are being sucessfull which is true sad.
I still disagree with the assessment of Keita as just your stereotypical standard, especially when you started out not describing him as moving toward those things but actually being a 2D-only moe-or-nothing otaku. In fact, I couldn't find what you claim about him saying that moe is the most important part. He said things that suggest he feels some disappointment when there's a lack, and that having really good moe can turn a great game into a masterpiece in his eyes, but that's not by any stretch the same thing as saying that moe is the most important thing to a game. Sounds like some of the games he likes might not really have much in the way of characters and cuteness, just look at what he recommended to Tasuku. It's just that when it has great characters along with everything else the characters really stand out to him. Again, it feels like you're trying to stretch his statements quite a bit to fit the stereotypes you hate.

But then, that might just be my impression after seeing this done frequently with people who spout words like "unoriginal" too much. There are plenty of stories that on some levels use tropes that are considered overused these days, but beyond these actually manages to be very entertaining, interesting, and even sometimes quite original, but I still tend to see with any series that contains those tropes several people start to say "Oh, it's just another one of those X series" and thus dismissing the whole on account of an aspect of the setting, preemptively deciding that there can't be anything original in a story with that trope. Heck, I've seen people write long diatribes about videos that are full of interesting and unique content, claiming that they really boiled down to an unoriginal pile of moe trash that is entirely dependent on the audience liking the cuteness of the heroine, going so far as to insist that if the story didn't have a cute heroine people wouldn't have anything positive to say about it at all. I'm sort of the polar opposite of that; I go into a series looking for something to like, something to find worth and originality in, and if I find something, even if it's not really big, I tend to consider it worth watching or reading.

As far as harem, I honestly don't see anything to suggest the slightest possibility of this. The character set just doesn't fit. Triangle will probably happen, with Chiaki getting over her anger and her excessive hate of moe in order to develop feelings for Keita, at which point we'll likely have a belligerent, on-and-off, maybe even tsundere love interest. However, we've only been given three girls and it's already been established that both boys have romantic potential, so if anything we'll likely see a love triangle, some suspicions and misunderstandings, etc. And yeah, while I seriously want Aguri to come to like Keita and view him as a really great guy, that's still only in a friend manner; she's too great with Tasuku to mess that up, and there's nothing wrong with a girl recognizing another boy's value as a person or even qualities that would make him a good boyfriend and still remain faithful. So yeah, I'm expecting a lot of people thinking the person they love is in a relationship with someone else or is cheating if they're already dating, but ultimately it'll still be one triangle and one pair.
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Ep. 3: OK, that's an amazing amount of misunderstanding for so few characters. I am impressed. And while the displays of emotion are exaggerated to parody, the actual nature of the misunderstandings is entirely plausible. I can easily see those things happening.
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I still disagree with the assessment of Keita as just your stereotypical standard, especially when you started out not describing him as moving toward those things but actually being a 2D-only moe-or-nothing otaku. In fact, I couldn't find what you claim about him saying that moe is the most important part. He said things that suggest he feels some disappointment when there's a lack, and that having really good moe can turn a great game into a masterpiece in his eyes, but that's not by any stretch the same thing as saying that moe is the most important thing to a game. Sounds like some of the games he likes might not really have much in the way of characters and cuteness, just look at what he recommended to Tasuku. It's just that when it has great characters along with everything else the characters really stand out to him. Again, it feels like you're trying to stretch his statements quite a bit to fit the stereotypes you hate.

But then, that might just be my impression after seeing this done frequently with people who spout words like "unoriginal" too much. There are plenty of stories that on some levels use tropes that are considered overused these days, but beyond these actually manages to be very entertaining, interesting, and even sometimes quite original, but I still tend to see with any series that contains those tropes several people start to say "Oh, it's just another one of those X series" and thus dismissing the whole on account of an aspect of the setting, preemptively deciding that there can't be anything original in a story with that trope. Heck, I've seen people write long diatribes about videos that are full of interesting and unique content, claiming that they really boiled down to an unoriginal pile of moe trash that is entirely dependent on the audience liking the cuteness of the heroine, going so far as to insist that if the story didn't have a cute heroine people wouldn't have anything positive to say about it at all. I'm sort of the polar opposite of that; I go into a series looking for something to like, something to find worth and originality in, and if I find something, even if it's not really big, I tend to consider it worth watching or reading.

As far as harem, I honestly don't see anything to suggest the slightest possibility of this. The character set just doesn't fit. Triangle will probably happen, with Chiaki getting over her anger and her excessive hate of moe in order to develop feelings for Keita, at which point we'll likely have a belligerent, on-and-off, maybe even tsundere love interest. However, we've only been given three girls and it's already been established that both boys have romantic potential, so if anything we'll likely see a love triangle, some suspicions and misunderstandings, etc. And yeah, while I seriously want Aguri to come to like Keita and view him as a really great guy, that's still only in a friend manner; she's too great with Tasuku to mess that up, and there's nothing wrong with a girl recognizing another boy's value as a person or even qualities that would make him a good boyfriend and still remain faithful. So yeah, I'm expecting a lot of people thinking the person they love is in a relationship with someone else or is cheating if they're already dating, but ultimately it'll still be one triangle and one pair.
i'm nowaday very strick and tired of too much of the "same" to the point of don't like series where looks this is a generic x but looks they have let's say a ball, or a celphone or whatever "way to be less generic they like to pull" but in the end still a generic x where the guy put a ball or something else to "look original" but keep pulling exactly the same cliches of almost every others serie, for me that sort of serie still bad and very otaku cliche and "not worth waste my time on then" that is why nowadays i'm almost stopped to follow animes and mangas in overal harem(i'm still read some which have really some good original enought thngs to not look like just the same with only only new element) and to be fair my problem is not just for harem but let's say how most of the mcs are, most of they personality in most cases are the "japanese stereotype" of beta mc, or super perv well overal the guy which normally only the "losers sides otakus recognize themselfs", while see this sometimes is fine, see then on almost every serie is tiresome, that is why sometimes i prefer more shounen standarts series like dragon ball, fairy tail, nanatsu no taiza, one punch man which while they still cliche they not exactly your "self otaku vision", which nowadays is really my big issue toward animes/mangas/novels, normally this is what make me drop very fast many series also things like overused genders like isekai putting just a little thing to sound "different" like isakai with my car, isekai sick, isekai bla bla bla, in the end all of then are about a guy whcih in most of the cases was a "average to looser person which died and goes to another world to make a harem of many generic girls while become a overpowered choosen one", that for me nowadays is a death gender.

for me a good serie is not the one just "pandering" A or B or puting A or B in priority but one which try to entertaing many peoples as possible.

well every person with they own tastes, so far things looks funny, the mc have really weird issues, i just don't want see a "potential serie" being wasted on another generic x that is all.
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Old 2017-07-27, 16:37   Link #80
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Hilarious desu desu~ "ehh you like hot guys but you reject moe?", lool okey this MC is hilarious all the chapter and the bullying to tendou added the plus.

But I'm surprise that "mono" didn't fall for amano first thing and went to uehara instead, I'm pretty sure it's going to change when mono knows that amano it's his partner in grandblue and well can't blame aguri for the misunderstandings, so let's go with aguri and amano bonding now.
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