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I wouldn't mind more than one. It is every man's dream after all. Realistically speaking though, a brunette would be fine by me.
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2010-05-25, 00:12 | Link #14125 |
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Going back to the discussion of Tsukune's growth I think that we won't see some developments on Tsukune's opinion about himself - I mean Tsukune still considers himself a human and doesn't realize how strong he has become (Rosario + Vampire Season II, Chapter 28, page 32)
Of course we still don't know what exactly goes in Tsukune's head, but I doubt Tsukune will get stronger if he doesn't realize his own capabilities. So I think that before Tsukune starts getting stronger he has to realize that he isn't ... simply speaking a "normal" human anymore. Having said that I think that Tsukune might start realizing that he isn't "fully" human after his family learns about Tsukune's ayashi power's. I mean, while I'm sure they will accept Tsukune after some time, but still Tsukune revealing his vampire abilities to his family is definitely going to put some distance between them ... which might lead to Tsukune realizing that he is a little different compared to a normal human. Of course ... I'm aware that Tsukune might have realized already that he is a little different compared to a normal human but, since no one has told him what changes have been made inside his body ... I don't think that Tsukune is aware of the full extent of his body's transformation, which naturally means that he probably isn't fully aware what are the implications of him having vampire blood in his veins. Anyway whatever it is ... I think that Tsukune's family becoming aware of the existence of his vampire abilities is probably going to be necessary push for Tsukune to finally comprehend the implications of him having vampire abilities . Furthermore I think that Tsukune's family becoming aware of his secret's is going to be something that's going to lead Tsukune foreword searching for the answer to the very old question coming from the reader's and that question is - "What actually Tsukune has became, after the vampire blood has been sealed inside his body ?" Obviously it hasn't been answered in the manga yet ... and I think we should finally be given some hint's that could lead us to becoming more aware of what actually Tsukune has become ... |
2010-05-25, 00:53 | Link #14126 |
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I think he is at least slightly aware that he is changing, especially after his thirst for Moka's blood and his subsequent encounter with that centiped. Behavior patterns like those are really hard to miss, especially for him. I believe Tsukune's realized he's no longer a normal human after that happened, and that he's been training with Moka all this time exactly because he knows he's changing and he needs to bring his powers under control. If he wasn't aware there was a change in him, he wouldn't be much different from a ghoul, oblivious to what's going on around him and to himself, physically and mentally.
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2010-05-25, 01:20 | Link #14127 | |
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Though Tsukune still considering himself as a human, might be just his attempt to cling onto the remnants of his humanity ... since we don't know what is really going on his head lately and it might be possible that Tsukune is already aware that he isn't a human anymore. Last edited by Chris38; 2010-05-25 at 01:36. |
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2010-05-25, 01:43 | Link #14128 |
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The reason Tsukune probably continues to consider himself human is that he's just a humble guy. He probably also wants to have as normal a high school life as he can at Youkai Gakuen. I think the fact that he still says that he's human wouldn't have any impact on his development strength wise.
You can think of it like this: a black belt in karate wouldn't have to acknowledge that he's a black belt to be able mop the floor with you. He'll just lay you out or try his best to beat you without worrying about whether if he's a black belt or not. Nor would he have to acknowledge that he's a first dan (degree) black belt in order for him to advance to a 5th dan or higher. He just has to keep up with his training and he'll get there eventually. Will admitting that he's no longer human help Tsukune develop his strength further? Probably not, but it will go along with character/personality development. Last edited by FriedRice84; 2010-05-25 at 02:19. |
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2010-05-25, 14:09 | Link #14131 |
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Right now, it's only natural that Tsukune refers to himself as "human" as he's not even sure what he is now... but he is aware that he's no longer a normal human.
Edit: On the sales side, the first volume R+VII was #1 best selling manga in the U.S. upon release, last week it was #6.
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What I had actually meant to say in my post ... is that if Tsukune has become aware of the full extent of the changes that Moka's vampire blood has made inside his body ... he would be more aware of the limits of his capabilities, which would help him get stronger and reach his full potential. Now I think that Tsukune's family becoming aware of Tsukune's secrets might be the reason for Tsukune to start searching for something that would explain, what exactly happened inside Tsukune's body, since the time Moka's vampire blood became dormant inside his body, as well as what actually Tsukune has became after his transformation ended. Quote:
I agree as well that Tsukune's power's are a part of what Tsukune has become, though I would like the author to start giving us some more concrete hints as to what actually Tsukune is at the moment, since while I'm sure that all of our speculations on this topic have some validity in the manga ... I don't think there has been anything given about what actually Tsukune is. I mean ..., Tsukune is still considered a human in the manga and that's something that I have to partially agree with, but so far no more details on this subject where given and it interests me what is the mangaka's take on this, since it could be a hint that could tell us how the author plans to develop Tsukune's abilities. Last edited by Chris38; 2010-05-26 at 00:10. |
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His Vampire powers are a bonus to that, and his powers have enabled him to protect Moka and the others to a much greater extent compared to when he was completely human. This made him braver, in a sense, compared to when he first arrived at the Youkai academy. Don't get me wrong, he was always willing to protect his friends, but where he was reliant on Moka and taking off her seal at first, he's now more willing to step into the fight with his own strength, and that's also what made him a better person. Quote:
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Also that is great to hear! Best selling manga. Hah! That should shut the reviews of some people in a "certain" place we know.
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2010-05-26, 11:30 | Link #14135 | |
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To me it could be the explanation why Kokoa only takes Tsukune's blood from some wound that he has acquired and doesn't bite him to suck his blood. (Rosario vampire Season II, chapter 3,page 7) Well, I wouldn't put it past that sort of man to posses information like that and hadn't told anything about it to Tsukune, because he would probably overacted if he learned something and that could impact his training ... so I definitely agree with what you said here. |
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2010-05-26, 12:22 | Link #14136 | |
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I mostly agree with that, mark thing and training Tsukune. Alot of the youkai hold true to their mythos in R+V and even though Moka can be proud and haughty both she and her outerself seem to have a better reign on things when it comes to acting sociably. While Kokoa will act underhanded, sneaky and often just attack someone else just because "they're not worthy" or her or her sister's attention, Moka I have seen does the very opposite where she is never the first to attack and though she seems condescending her points of victory are always valid (but she is still haughty and gets a big head when she wins). She has never denied liking Tsukune, but has openly said one chapter that he could not be with her as he was, and even urged him to make a choice )(never saying to choose the other girls but to choose) when they were in the human world for the first time.
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Heh heh, well just another to add to the fun and semi-orderly chaos of people we have here. By the way, FriedRice, where is your ava from? Looks sufficiently ecchi enough, I think I might like to watch it sometime.
But yes, so many tangled threads of plots that weave in with just Tsukune alone, and now that Moka's threads are being revealed I think that one of Rexy's fics concerning dear ol' Issa "Daddy Starbucks" Shuzen might be accurate on why Moka is being so possessive of Tsukune versus the other girls. She might not like polygamy because that would be precisely what her father was doing, and she might be afraid that Tsukune would fall into a similar pattern and not wholly care for each of them like he does now, so she want to encourage Tsukune to be more focused in love as well as battle. We may yet see Tsukune pull out a few tricks with his development in fighting yet, but..... those could end up being done on accident, and he'd probably go "I didn't know I could do that," and find that it would help him greatly to exploit it to win a difficult battle, though I don't think this potential confrontation with the group and Akua will result in such a fight, but hopefully they'll separate this time with Akua stating something similar to old Dr. Claw when a plan fails. Right now there are at least 3 things going on, and possibly more, with whats happening in Moka's head with Tsukune and them, the appearance of Akua on their doorstep, and with the egg thing in the Yuki Onna village, and possibly others. the group is gonna have one heck of a time trying to keep up with all of them.
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