(L+CR) Goblin Slayer

[Eclar]

The King and the government are aware of that, but they have so many things to deal with that goblins are the least of their problems.

[Keila]

Places like waste-disposal plants (real world, where they treat sewerage, etc). You effectively have workers who need to 'hang around' crap, managing it, monitoring it and ultimately end up smelling like it. It's not a glamorous job by any means but someone has to do it. The question is, how much would you need to be paid to convince you to take on work like this (keeping in mind that you will inevitably end up smelling like crap on a more or less permanent basis)?

If you could make an absolute killing (think mountains of gold) killing goblins everyone would do it (especially since they're considered the weakest monsters). But given that you could still 'die' (if you consider death the worst thing) whilst fighting goblins then you need to start thinking at what 'payout' does it actually make it worth my while.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

And I still have issues about goblin-threats only being treated like some kind of roach infestations by all those adventurers considering all the human casualties. Looks like this world is a real shit-hole to live in.

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Eclar

The King and the government are aware of that, but they have so many things to deal with that goblins are the least of their problems.

Which probably falls on my first option that they haven't FULLY realized the gravity of the situation. If the King is actually fully aware, then he simply needed to mandate a bounty increase and let the Guild handle the rest.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

And I still have issues about goblin-threats only being treated like some kind of roach infestations by all those adventurers considering all the human casualties. Looks like this world is a real shit-hole to live in.

That's the most realistic thing about this series.

[Sixth]

People should treat guild as a "platform" instead of a "company" that hire adventurers to do their dirty works. Yeah, maybe they should intervene in the certain situation, but at the same time, they don't have obligation to do so.

People keep saying that those "villagers" paying tax but at the same, they seemingly forgot that people who got killed by dragon, troll, demon, lich are also paying tax too.

Heck, even Superman will put his entire focus on taking down Darkseid and his armies first, assuming that Darkseid and few human thugs are committing a crime/assaulting the Earth at the same time frame.

[Marcus H.]

Places like waste-disposal plants (real world, where they treat sewerage, etc). You effectively have workers who need to 'hang around' crap, managing it, monitoring it and ultimately end up smelling like it. It's not a glamorous job by any means but someone has to do it. The question is, how much would you need to be paid to convince you to take on work like this (keeping in mind that you will inevitably end up smelling like crap on a more or less permanent basis)?

Considering that sludge from sewers is pretty toxic, I'm sure that people who do work with that and other jobs are aware of the dangers and are still doing it because of their contributions to their respective communities. Just ask Mike Rowe. He's been there.

Heck, even Superman will put his entire focus on taking down Darkseid and his armies first, assuming that Darkseid and few human thugs are committing a crime/assaulting the Earth at the same time frame.

Unfair comparison. He's not the only superhero around, and the police that are on duty are there to do their duties too.

[Eclar]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

Which probably falls on my first option that they haven't FULLY realized the gravity of the situation. If the King is actually fully aware, then he simply needed to mandate a bounty increase and let the Guild handle the rest.

That's not going to help the situation. They are using their resources to deal with what they consider right now big threats to humanity. If they redirect part of it to goblins, those threats are going to gain the upper hand inmediately. Considering that goblins are the largest pest, imagine how much they are going to spend just to increase 1 gold coin per bounty to the entire frontier.

[Random14]

This is a medieval world and a big countryside. It takes Goblin Slayer days to reach his target, so that's somewhat far away. And with the way people casually mention fighting demons and dragons, those are regular threats too. Yes, a growing goblin horde is also a serious problem, but what government there is is probably busy with bigger problems like demons. Thinking a country should be able to handle every threat in an efficient manner is expecting too much. Especially with goblins attacking easy targets like tiny villages.

We already saw the normal procedure for a goblin quest- a poor villager comes in and offers as much money as they can spare, and rookie adventurers will throw themselves at the quest until eventually its completed. Guild Girl tries to warn them, but most of them don't listen.

The novel touches on these ideas more, but adventurers are out to make money or earn fame. Goblin Slayer is the exception since he's out to get revenge on the goblins, but he's not amoral either. He's messed up, but not a monster himself. Not warm and friendly of course, but he did immediately offer a potion to Priestess when he showed up, not like he tried to make her pay for it. Yeah, its messed up, but that's medieval world for you. The interesting part is seeing Goblin Slayer's one man war on goblins.

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Sixth

People keep saying that those "villagers" paying tax but at the same, they seemingly forgot that people who got killed by dragon, troll, demon, lich are also paying tax too.

I don't forget. The fact that they are doing something about those means they are aware of the losses those creatures are causing or can potentially cause them. Like I said, there are a lot of factors causing it, but I still feel that the current obliviousness about the actual level of goblin threat is still within reason.

Originally Posted by Eclar

That's not going to help the situation. They are using their resources to deal with what they consider right now big threats to humanity. If they redirect part of it to goblins, those threats are going to gain the upper hand inmediately. Considering that goblins are the largest pest, imagine how much they are going to spend just to increase 1 gold coin per bounty to the entire frontier.

I'll give an analog: It's probably like how the current government is still thinking that the black death plague that is appearing in their country is your usual pandemic outbreak so they aren't going to spare more resource than usually necessary because they are currently at war with the neighboring country.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

I don't forget. The fact that they are doing something about those means they are aware of the losses those creatures are causing or can potentially cause them. Like I said, there are a lot of factors causing it, but I still feel that the current obliviousness about the actual level of goblin threat is still within reason.

It is more like that they don't have enough manpower or resource to cover all things at once.

[Marcus H.]

The interesting part is seeing Goblin Slayer's one man war on goblins.

I like worldbuilding more than the cast, but the cast (including the mooks) can definitely ruin my enjoyment of a fantasy series.

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Sixth

It is more like that they don't have enough manpower or resource to cover all things at once.

The goblins already ARE draining their manpower and resource, they just don't notice yet.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Endscape

That's the most realistic thing about this series.

Yes, and like Gundam IBO, it's a shit world. That part is not a criticism towards the show. Just saying what I think.

Still, the fanservice is really unnecessary and I think it's a gross addition to an otherwise very nice episode.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

The goblins already ARE draining their manpower and resource, they just don't notice yet.

Dragon, Lich, Troll, Demon did the same thing, but in the larger scale.

Just imagine a dragon flew thru a city and burn everything to the ground in a short time. It would take a lot lot of goblins to replicate what the dragon just did.

Ever play Starcraft or something? Your main base and 2nd base are under attack. Your main base has all essential stuff, workers and production buildings and your 2nd base have only a handful of worker mining the minerals. Which base that you will defend with your main forces?

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Sixth

Dragon, Lich, Troll, Demon did the same thing, but in the larger scale.

Just imagine a dragon flew thru a city and burn everything to the ground.

Ever play Starcraft or something? Your main base and 2nd base are under attack. Your main base has all essential stuff, workers and production buildings and your 2nd base have only a handful of worker mining the minerals. Which base that you will defend with your main forces?

I have trouble grasping what you are trying to say. But I guess you are implying that you think my original second point is true: that the government are fully aware about the actual extent of the threat but still think all those losses are negligible?

[Eclar]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

I'll give an analog: It's probably like how the current government is still thinking that the black death plague that is appearing in their country is your usual pandemic outbreak so they aren't going to spare more resource than usually necessary because they are currently at war with the neighboring country.

Except that instead of the neighboring country, they are getting a fight from all sides.

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Eclar

Except that instead of the neighboring country, they are getting a fight from all sides.

Either way, they're screwed.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

I have trouble grasping what you are trying to say. But I guess you are implying that you think my original second point is true: that the government are fully aware about the actual extent of the threat but still think all those losses are negligible?

More like that they have no choice to let that happen. They can't spread their forces too thin considering that there are a demon lord and other high tier monsters lurking around. In episode 1, there is a mob character saying something about "demon lord" appearing or something.

Based on the author's interview, GS is a Batman or Punisher who is busying dealing with thugs on the street while Superman, Thor, WonderWoman and other powerful heroes are fighting against Darkseid, Galactus, Thanos, Ultron at another side of the planet.

[erneiz_hyde]

Originally Posted by Sixth

More like that they have no choice to let that happen.

Like I said, they are screwed. One can even theorize that this is a ploy by the demon lord to slowly kill humanity from the inside.

Suddenly I am imagining a post-apocalyptic-medieval world where humanity was on the brink of destruction, living scattered in the edges and the first narration sentence was "We made a mistake".