2009-07-28, 10:22 | Link #21 |
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Fellow sekai fan? Well, you can watch at least two of them on youtube. They're somewhat clearer than most of the Kotonoha good endings. Anyways, the directors of the anime decided on the bad end because that's the thing School Days (in)famous for. Not to mention it had such a powerfull effect. Nowadays we see at least one reply on the forums about a harem anime, like: "I hope it won't end like School Days", "I don't want nice boat ending". Hating it or not, but School Days gained popularity with it.
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2009-07-28, 12:43 | Link #22 | |
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Yes, I am a Sekai fan and proud of it All depending on the personality I don't really lean on certain character types. I think Sekai really didn't deserve what Makoto was doing to her at all, now I don't agree with her committing murder but Makoto is also at fault for playing with her feelings. To me, it's not so much the ending that bothered me but the way the male leads development just flopped at the end. There was no consistency in his actions at all and although he is young and all, he could have at least not been going out with anyone. Meaning, Makoto could have been single without committing to anyone and did what he wanted to do. I really did feel bad for Sekai though, I mean it was obvious in the beginning that Makoto was falling for Sekai and no matter what Kotonoha did to gain his attention, Makoto just didn't care about her as much as he did before. I just want to see a good ending for Sekai
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2009-07-28, 13:06 | Link #23 |
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In my case the anime's ending what brought me to watch it at first. I spoiled by someone that the main hero's killed by a certain heroine. So I focused on Sekai and Makoto's relationship from the start. I only was watchfull of Kotonoha's actions and motives after the second or third rewatch.
I pissed off by the protagonist's "cruelty"(idiocity) from the second part too. Especially because it felt somewhat artifical to me. I rewatched the anime 4 times just to find out why makoto did what he did. It seemed like a dual personality to me at first...he had such a drastical change. Anyways tragedic endings like that helps to bring our attentions to the characters. Why they did that. Why this happened in the end. There could be a way to avoid this? etc... Maybe because I'm a Sekai fan(not only because of her pain and my initial focus. Her cheerfull and somewhat selfless caring personality too. I am really attracted to the girls like that) |
2009-07-29, 11:54 | Link #29 |
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Oh don't get me wrong. I said in the post above that I didn't condone her actions at the end of the series regardless of what I think of her. No matter what I think Makoto, I strongly believe that he didn't deserve what Sekai did because if someone is going to repent for what they've done, they'll do so while they're alive.
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2009-07-29, 13:57 | Link #30 |
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It's only natural. But someone being depressed, mentally exhausted and undergoing the hormonal changes of pregnancy isn't a good thinker. Makoto did really bad things to her and Kotonoha but he didn't deserve to be killed. His death actually released him from his responsibilities.
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2009-07-29, 21:22 | Link #32 | |
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I mean if i was in makoto's shoes, i'd just go ahead and be with sekai. I mean he loved her too? right? he said it a couple of times. What's wrong with sekai? D: Buuuuuuut. Since she wasn't really pregnant she went ahead and said she still was. Trying to keep makoto.
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2009-07-29, 21:54 | Link #33 | |
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I'm not exactly sure what you disagreed with but like I said, deciding who dies or not is not up to anyone, he didn't deserve to die but what he did was pretty pathetic.
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2009-07-29, 22:10 | Link #34 |
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There's no official source concerning whether Sekai was really pregnant or not, as regards the anime - in the game, there are some endings with her offspring in them.
To me, however, she could very well be in the early stages of her term, and so, Kotonoha wouldn't really be able to see anything when she cut her up (there is nothing to disprove this, as Kotonoha's state of mind is not really one where we can trust her conclusions, after all). Also, there's no possible justification for what she did. It was wrong, pure and simple.
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2009-07-29, 23:03 | Link #35 | |
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About the pregnancy: It's really funny. In general if someone states she's pregnant and others acting according to that it means she's pregnant. But because just one insane girl's doubt it suddenly become false? Or We really think Kotonoha's method to prove this(stabbing Sekai in the chest) is a precise and professional way to determine it? Both things are laughtable as counterproofs to the pregnancy. |
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2009-07-30, 19:38 | Link #36 | |
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I now believe that sekai was pregnant because (your right) maybe the baby hadn't formed yet. I wouldn't take kotonoha's word for it because she became all delusional (again).
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2009-07-30, 22:13 | Link #37 | |
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As for Kotonoha, delusional is putting it lightly. That girl has some serious mental issues.
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2009-07-31, 02:48 | Link #38 |
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i looked it up on the internet just to be sure about the timing of the alleged pregnancy
if sekai HAD gotten pregnant this would be the timeline: *week 0*-sex with makoto early on in the series leads to the initial pregnancy *week 6*-morning sickness ~1.5 month into the series when all the drama starts (1 monthish seems reasonable development from when they first had sex) -Nausea and vomiting can be one of the first signs of pregnancy and usually begins around the 6th week of pregnancy (taken from wiki) *week 6-7*-sekai's death and confirmation of fake pregnancy -"The embryo is starting to look like a tadpole. It's about 0.08 inches to 0.16 inches -- the size of a BB pellet" (0.08 inch = 0.203 2 centimeter) <points out the minimum possible size so it's visible to the naked eye so based on this information (5 minutes of google searches) i can safely conclude that if kotonoha was at all serious about determining the pregnancy she would be able to confirm it, though she do so rather crudely. however we can also argue the other side, that the timing of sekai missing her period coincides around the same time she begins to throw up, though you can also argue that late periods DO HAPPEN so we have to assume the show is not throwing us a random plot hole curve ball (ie kotonoha was blinded by rage after all and sekai was actually pregnant, or someone who produced the show tells us so) we have to assume that sekai's pregnancy was false (compounded by the fact that she did not confirm her pregnancy with a test at a clinic) just wanted to have everyone on the same page, take this information as it is, still doesnt change the fact that: 1) pregnant = she dies 2) not pregnant = she dies |
2009-07-31, 04:33 | Link #39 |
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Yeah, but even if visibkle to the naked eye, you can imagine it visible by after someone brutally cuts open a pregant woman's belly? I even doubt Kotonoha knew where she must aim. With a meat cleaver that big you could easily even crush the baby. Not to mention Kotonoha was extremely delusional. Even if she saws a fully grown baby it means nothing to her. She still belives there's nothing inside in Sekai.
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And, really, you believe Kotonoha's words, there? She's the girl who was quite happy to sail away with her boyfriend's severed head, after all... We don't have to assume her words are the truth, at all. heh:
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