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Old 2022-06-05, 17:31   Link #4321
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Hayasaka and Ishigami as well IMO
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Old 2022-06-05, 17:58   Link #4322
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Hayasaka and Ishigami as well IMO
Definitely not. They had plenty of screentime and development.

The ones Diluc mentioned were just pebbles on the road. At least Mikado and Shiranui. Abe never even showed up and I don't even remember a Sensei.
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Old 2022-06-05, 21:02   Link #4323
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Mikado, Shiranui, Abe and Sensei.

Aka did dirty to all of them.
You forgot Shindou, his potential haven't fully unleashed yet.



Agree with Abe and Hikaru-sensei. I feel like they're some untapped potential for one or two arcs.
Especially Hikaru-sensei who got Principal pushing him to teach as he was once a wholesome teacher.
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Old 2022-06-05, 21:19   Link #4324
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It's kind of hard to give deep backstories and story arcs to every single character. Often attempts end up just draining the value from all characters instead. Don't try to juggle too many characters' stories at once or they'll all crash. While I agree it's a pity these characters didn't get more, I'd rather they be left underused than them all having gotten arcs too to the detriment of other characters. It's bad enough that the author's focusing more on other projects already, don't make him dilute his focus even more.
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Old 2022-06-05, 22:27   Link #4325
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Sensei got mysterious past that made Principal believe he's excellent moral support to Kaguya, Abe is rumored among student as relatives to a certain prime minister; Shindou is the most social person with reputation as the best class leader and ace of Shuchinin soccer team, bested only by Mikado.

Abe also 1-A student not 2 (Ishigami, Iino) or 3 (Kaguya, Miyuki) so he likely intended to fill gap for next student council. Koromo herself comparing her debut to later mention seems to be intended to be the Fujiwara/Hayasaka for Ishigami.

Sounds good on delivering something fun as well as serious than dealing with incompetent yakuza if author not into Oshi no Ko IMO.
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Old 2022-06-06, 06:47   Link #4326
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From February, 2020:
Iíd like to ask you about the future development of the story. First of all, are there any plans to introduce new characters?
"I want to keep new characters to a minimum, but there are still plenty of characters Iíd like to introduce. Most importantly, thereís still a suitor from The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter who hasn't made an appearance yet, so I have a quota to meet.
Itís pretty difficult to introduce new male characters, so Iím still debating when to introduce them, among other things. Itíll probably be after Kaguya and Shirogane become third years."

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"Also, classes will change once Kaguya and Shirogane start their third year, so I think there will be more stories that take place in the class as opposed to just the Student Council room."

Generally, I would say something became really off after Chapter 228. One month hiatus to prepare for future arcs. Then again, he didn't say he was preparing for Kaguya-sama arcs. Another reason why authors should just keep quiet about their future story plans instead of the good old "plans subject to change" excuses used when the readers point out the obvious.
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Old 2022-06-06, 10:36   Link #4327
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That, and they need to learn their limits. Figure out how far they can actually take a story, both in terms of how far the plot can go and how much endurance the author has. If the story's taken too far for its plot we end up with "stretchers", ridiculous twists that are clearly far less about exploring new sides of the characters or pushing their development than resetting or stalling so the story can keep going. If it goes too long for the author to hold out, you end up with sloppy writing and a shift from "I want to make this beautiful" to "I just want to be done with this!" And of course, starting a new story when you're not done with your current just further drains that endurance. Aka also hurt himself by deciding that he HAD to do all the suitors, creating a long checklist of things to do on something he was already growing weary of.

Honestly, I don't even want to try reading ONK. I can't help but suspect he'll end up doing the same thing there, stretching too far until he starts to grow fatigued, at which point I bet that thread too will devolve to a soul-draining mess of people complaining about how awful every single chapter is and a few trying to argue that, while it's not good, it's not as terrible as the former make it out to be.

I sort of think this series might have done better split into multiple "series". Tell the story up to a certain point then end, then at some point later start a new series that "continues" this but with a different focus. Give the author extra time to come up with how the next "story" goes with less expectations (since it's a new story, not the next chapter), allow them to further embrace the shift in tone at the start of the new sequence, and complete the shift in focus. Could've done a lot of good here in my opinion, even if the new series was made into a harem (we all know Ishigami had one in the making). Actually, I'd have LOVED a harem with Kaguya-sama style mind games going on between the different members as they fight for his attention and affection.
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Old 2022-06-13, 16:31   Link #4328
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Old 2022-06-13, 18:12   Link #4329
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Old 2022-06-14, 03:05   Link #4330
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The lesser issue in my opinion.

For some reason Aka is really keen on depraving Kaguya of Miyuki and vice versa. Therefore, some ridiculous, corny shit will be coming, for example Kaguya flying the Shinomiya private jet next to Miyuki's plane and waving from the windows or something like that.

Also, am I the only one, who thinks Miyuki's farewell is lackluster or barely emotional in general? Ishigami and Iino tried, but it didn't really work with the comedy portions of Kaguya being displeased.
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Old 2022-06-14, 08:04   Link #4331
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Also, am I the only one, who thinks Miyuki's farewell is lackluster or barely emotional in general?
I have difficulty to take it seriously TBH, for reason I already said here: Miyuki is just lacking as a character.
I can understand Ishigami being sad because Miyuki is his first step to have faith to others. Iino mentioned Miyuki is great president? Sorry, I just can't. Pulling a lot of academic achievements while also working part-time to the point you developed a sharp eye told nothing about being good president, let alone flawlessly planned rent of a high-tech silent helicopter.

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Old 2022-06-20, 11:26   Link #4332
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Old 2022-06-20, 18:22   Link #4333
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Old 2022-06-20, 23:14   Link #4334
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Holy crap what greatest epic delivery from the greatest, the genius mangaka of all Time Akasa Aka.
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Old 2022-06-23, 09:57   Link #4335
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You know, if Akasaka had only left out the private jet part then the rest of it with the video chatting and just visiting Miyuki on weekends afterwards would have still been reasonable...
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Old 2022-06-23, 14:06   Link #4336
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I don't know. It's already been established she's loaded and doesn't hesitate to spend money. I don't think we'll get to the point where they're married, but he doesn't make billionaire levels of money and her spending habits cause conflict.
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Old 2022-06-23, 17:48   Link #4337
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Kaguya is going to fly to America every week-end? But... her carbon print...
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Old 2022-06-23, 18:14   Link #4338
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- No Papagane and Kei to sent Miyuki off, instead we got "Leave everything to us" from people that barely matters.
- Girl crying for more or less 10 hours (Tokyo to San Fransisco); closer than I thought, she said
- Thought of traveling to SF every weekend
- Ended the chapter with video call

Feels like a shitpost.

Ironically parting with Hayasaka looks more heartfelt than parting with the main heroine. Shirogane looks fitting too in screen, like, when was the last time he did a lot of stuffs on-screen in comparison to others Student Council members?

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Old 2022-06-24, 01:03   Link #4339
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I don't know. It's already been established she's loaded and doesn't hesitate to spend money. I don't think we'll get to the point where they're married, but he doesn't make billionaire levels of money and her spending habits cause conflict.
I don't have any problem with that. I know she has too much disposable income and she's free to use it, and I doubt she cares about the environment or anything like that.

The part that was silly to me was finding a private jet to go faster than Miyuki's flight just so she could meet him at the airport anyway.

Just setting up a video chat over Discord and meeting him some other weekend would have been perfectly natural enough.
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Old 2022-06-24, 01:44   Link #4340
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Kaguya is going to fly to America every week-end? But... her carbon print...
She could just turn the Sahara desert into a forest to offset the emissions.
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