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Old 2014-08-16, 23:36   Link #461
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Well this show keeps adding more layers.

I'm sure whatever fragments relationship we have are related to David's lost personality in someway. Kind of threw me for a loop seeing three of him on the beach XD

I wonder what is up with Hiro's sister, I wonder how this is connected.

With Yana's comment to David, I wonder if she is having feelings for him now? Hmmm.

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The ED is getting more inappropriate with every episode.
I agree, I can't stand that ending song one bit. The vocals are like nails on a chalkboard.
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Old 2014-08-16, 23:40   Link #462
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That's pretty much all nano.ripe songs in a nutshell.
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Old 2014-08-16, 23:57   Link #463
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those flashes make so much more sense if its what their thoughts are at that moment.
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Old 2014-08-17, 00:18   Link #464
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I agree, I can't stand that ending song one bit. The vocals are like nails on a chalkboard.
MM yes, I think calling it a song is already giving it too much credit.
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Old 2014-08-17, 02:39   Link #465
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So yea, just watched ep 7, and had to come just randomly comment. Seriously, does PA Works just try to be random with what they do? I mean, part of me loves it, but part of me feels like they just won't piece it together well. People just randomly shout 'please stay attractive/cool' nowadays? WTF? Even better, the dude just keeps going...

And then Yana repeats a similar phrase? Also somewhat randomly? Or I guess Yuki might've told her about the bike chase, maybe...I dunno. Why Yana would then go to the beach is beyond me, since technically, to her, no one should be there.

I don't watch all of PA Works stuff, like I didn't bother getting into NNA, but of the shows I do follow, this has got to be the only one where I don't care for the main characters (Side characters seem awesome so far, something PA Works has done great before). I don't care about Kakeru, since he just randomly appeared and has a special power we just have to accept. Touko is random and hyper, which is cool in a way, but I don't connect with her. It's like a forced love at first sight plot, only with 'special' abilities we'll never really understand (in terms of forming a connection with them) creating that love. And the rest are really secondary main characters.

And if that 'falling' bit with Kakeru was him 'falling' for Touko, I'm going to hit something.

Anyway, I just read the past 2 pages here, and are people not sure Sacchi is yuri? Or at least likes Touko? It was pointed out at the end of ep 1 to me, and well, nothing has stopped me from thinking it since, not even all those 'dates' with Hiro. Wasn't she even blushing in this ep? Ah well, at least it gave Hiro a moment to shine, by showing he has standards. Although I'm not sure if he's pissed about almost ruining Touko's date, or that he was being strung along all this time. I'm not even sure what Sacchi was supposed to be feeling/expressing afterwards.

Weirdly (or not), part of me doesn't really blame Sacchi or Yuki for their antics.

Also, nano.ripe hate is still a thing I see.
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Old 2014-08-17, 13:22   Link #466
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I really enjoyed episode 7. Now we are beginning to see the "truth" behind some of the characters' actions and the true nature of their friendship. The last scene, where Touko probably read Yanagi thoughts and freaked out soon after, was a very interesting one.

Touko is an airhead, innocent and pure, so she always saw their friendship on a "romanticized" point-of-view, where everyone is always nice and enjoyed each other’s company all the time. But in the real world things are nor white nor black, but grey instead. If friends are always nice with each other all the time, then something is definitely wrong. On a real friendship, there is always some fighting and discussion involved, if a person really cares about you, he/she will be ready to point out some of your flaws and lecture you when you make a mistake, even if it ends hurting you. The same logic applies with her relationship with Kakeru, I do believe that she is starting to like the guy, but she still sees him as a "David", she is still unaware of his flaws;

On the flip side, despite his anti-social nature, Kakeru is good in understanding other people‘s actions, and has developed some intrapersonal skills as well. He is aware of his own problems (self-awareness), and can see the other’s flaws too. I believe that the "3-Kakeru scene" was a representation of some sort of internal monologue, and not a sign of schizophrenia or a similar mental disorder. I still don’t like his character, but I believe that he is only a bastard, not a mentally-ill child.

Well, maybe I am speculating too much here, but I think that their relationship will only work out if Touko matures a bit more in the end; she is still a child at heart when it comes to relationships. And as for Kakeru, he needs to be more sociable and compassionate.

About Sachi x Hiro’s relationship. After this episode, I feel really sorry for this guy, Sachi clearly only sees him as her friend, and nothing more. Also, she feels something for Touko, it is too soon to label it as love, but definitely Touko is the person she cares the most. It is really sad to see how things turned out, because I was really enjoying seeing their relationship.
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Old 2014-08-17, 18:48   Link #467
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About Sachi x Hiro’s relationship. After this episode, I feel really sorry for this guy, Sachi clearly only sees him as her friend, and nothing more.
I'm not so sure. She likes him as a friend, certainly, and I don't think she yearns for him the way he yearns for her. But she also finds him convenient, and if she can repay him for that convenience by being his girlfriend, well, why not?
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Old 2014-08-17, 18:55   Link #468
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I'm not so sure. She likes him as a friend, certainly, and I don't think she yearns for him the way he yearns for her. But she also finds him convenient, and if she can repay him for that convenience by being his girlfriend, well, why not?
Yes, finally, somebody else seems to take Sachi-Hiro the way I'm inclined to.

Romance in fiction is often portrayed as this passionate flowery thing, but in reality, you can have romances rooted primarily in simple practicality and convenience.


"Hiro is nice and friendly. He reliably supports me and clearly thinks a lot of me. I have my physical frailties, so having a person like that has my boyfriend could be a big help in my life. He'd feel happy and rewarded by such a relationship, and I'd have a good boyfriend in all the practical ways. It would be win-win, and I like him well enough to be reasonably sincere with it."

I could imagine Sachi thinking this way. Heck, it's maybe even possible that Sachi would like being Hiro's girlfriend partly for Touko's sake. In other words "The more Hiro helps me out, the less I'm a burden to Touko" might be something that Sachi could think.
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Old 2014-08-18, 01:00   Link #469
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If that's the case, hopefully Hiro won't realize she feels that way before her feelings for him become 100% sincere and amorous. I'll refrain from sticking to pne line of thinking and see how things play out. Seems like any praise I could give this show could turn to hate very easily, but that's romance for me.
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Old 2014-08-21, 10:39   Link #470
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Oh Yana....



Also, that fragment from the future again..
This show makes me go wtf almost every week now.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:02   Link #471
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Well that escalated quickly. And I have no idea how this is going to go.
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Old 2014-08-21, 11:13   Link #472
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Sad. This show is slowly slipping away from me, and not even the Yana-service can save it for me.

Also, this week: Yana votes for Yuri-Sachi! That makes two (Hiro voted last week).
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Old 2014-08-21, 12:51   Link #473
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The ED is getting more inappropriate with every episode.
I agree with this statement now more than ever. I officially have no idea what's up with this show. The only one who's cool now is Yuki. Sachi's all petty and sad, Hiro's an angry loner, Yana... I'm not entirely sure what's up with her. Touko and Kakeru are confusing, but Yuki said "Screw this, I'm out. I'm gonna go get my shit together and get back on the track team!" which makes him the smartest person on the show at the moment.

I thought I knew who to ship, but now I don't.

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As of this point, David is far from meeting the criteria for Schizophrenia, and has shown no symptom of Multiple Personality Disorder. Which brings up a question. Are the things he hear actually from the future or is he simply having auditory hallucinations? I would not be surprised if the show pulls A Beautiful Mind on us. Have we had any confirmation that either Touko or David were able to sense the future? Sachi going to the hospital is the only one I recall, and feels like it's too generic to be proof of anything.
There's one thing that really bother's me about whether or not Kakeru has a mental disorder. How is it, that he literally can share it with Touko? It's been shown in the early episodes, that when they're together they can literally see and hear the exact same thing. I'm not too studied on these things, and I'm awared of a sort of crowd mentality, where someone see's a hallucination and then other people start to see it; but that's usually an effect of someone describing the hallucination or planting some detail in the minds of others. Seeing the same thing, and then talking about it without describing it, as if it was a cat that walked in front of them. That makes it strange. There is evidence that Kakeru could have a mental disorder, but this one thing is what I can't reconcile. How can him and Touko hear and see the exact same things together, but only have auditory or optical visions when they're apart?

There are some things that imply they really do see aspects of the future, even Kakeru will casually seem to know things he shouldn't, like how Yana is doing after the incident at the beach. But then, there's other things that make it seem like it's just 2 literally crazy kids spending time together.
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Old 2014-08-21, 12:57   Link #474
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Yet another brilliant episode, for me. Subtle, complex, moving, with deep feelings and fascinating uncertainties.

Some shows go by quickly, some slowly. Personally, I keep wanting this show to go more slowly so that I can have more of the enjoyment every second of it gives me: the look, the sound, the movement of scenes, as well as the characters and stories. For me, the use of music is outstanding.

Even the current fear/doubt/hesitation Touko feels about getting closer to Kakeru is a thrill. But I have the exact opposite reaction to romance that some people do: it's my favorite aspect of anime by far.

I have been wondering if Touko's visions are more like characterizations of her or others' mental state in the present, rather than visions of the future. The ravens were Yana's semi-conscious resentment toward Touko and Kakeru; Kakeru falling into the drawing was him falling into love with Touko, etc. But the exploding window at the glass shop...I'm not sure what's going on there. Kissing while it snows certainly looks like the future, though.

I was glad to see Yuki actually pushed forward by Hina's strange plea. And for Yana-chan to run his route and schedule was an indication that she does still love him, or at least wants to. Is Hina a rival? Four years age difference, so probably not. Hina's a fine character nonetheless, from her easy conspiracy with Touko not to mention Kakeru, to her bold ride after Yuki, to her openness with her sister about what she did.
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Old 2014-08-21, 12:59   Link #475
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I agree with this statement now more than ever. I officially have no idea what's up with this show. The only one who's cool now is Yuki. Sachi's all petty and sad, Hiro's an angry loner, Yana... I'm not entirely sure what's up with her. Touko and Kakeru are confusing, but Yuki said "Screw this, I'm out. I'm gonna go get my shit together and get back on the track team!" which makes him the smartest person on the show at the moment.

I thought I knew who to ship, but now I don't.
Next thing we know is his coach telling him his no good and won't be able to take sports on pro level anymore
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Old 2014-08-21, 13:36   Link #476
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Considering the coach himself invited Yuki to camp that's just depressing. It seems he can't keep up with everyone too, oh well there's a group of lovely girls in school swimsuit waiting for your return.

I'm glad Hiro's not easily giving in to Sachi or perhaps he is? His face still seems very angry even after reading the text message.
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Old 2014-08-21, 14:41   Link #477
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Considering the coach himself invited Yuki to camp that's just depressing. It seems he can't keep up with everyone too, oh well there's a group of lovely girls in school swimsuit waiting for your return.

I'm glad Hiro's not easily giving in to Sachi or perhaps he is? His face still seems very angry even after reading the text message.
I think, maybe there's a difference in the subs we watched. I saw the coach tell Yuki to give him a call, and then the coach said "Ah, but next week I'm going to be at a training camp. So call me before or after the camp." Then he left. So it seemed like, Yuki volunteered to go to the camp on his own. I thought that was pretty cool, since it was like he was taking a step forward on his own and trying his best, and he decided to stop moping over Touko and distance himself from the drama and focus on bettering himself.
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Old 2014-08-21, 16:14   Link #478
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I don't watch the ED every one of the many times I watch each episode, as I do the OP, but I think it's a good song and that nano.RIPE is a good band. Try watching this live clip of the song to get a better feeling for the band and the lead singer, who looks much bigger and more confident than her voice sounds:
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Yes, it's an acquired taste, lol. But the harsh high voice is less unusual in Japanese than it would be in English, and less jarring than it is to many of us outside Japan. Some subs sub the song, and the lyrics are pretty strong: "I breathe life into this formless world and I am born again. My heart is shattered; it's fragile, after all. But I'll wrap up a piece for you: pick just one. Among the fragments of everyday life, there is something unforgettable. I try to hold it, but it slips away. Through transparent glass I vaguely see the glittering light of a world unknown to me and unknown to you...."

I agree with anonfr that Yuki seems to have decided on his own to go to the camp. The final scene of ep7 was him alone on the train, going to the camp, it now appears. I'd add that I trust the coach's understanding: he knew Yuki was not up to full speed yet, but it seemed to the coach that he was progressing well. I didn't like Yuki at first, but in rewatching the series so far (as I have a couple of times), I gained more liking and sympathy for him. His world has been torn apart, and he felt that deeply and did not know how to progress. But he seems to have set his feet on a path forward. Will he meet Yana-chan on the path?

I have a lot of sympathy for Sachi, who has to live her life on the edge of illness. She was wrong to use her friends, but I can feel her desperation over losing Touko to David, and accept her natural impulse to do things through others, as she is used to having to do. I find both Touko and Kakeru extremely attractive people. Touko is strong beneath her weak manner, and Kakeru is a prematurely independent guy who is just feeling his way through life step by step. I don't believe he is exactly crazy, but he certainly does see things others don't. His and Touko's shared visions give a magic to the whole show. As I said before, Yana-chan is a jewel. I love it that her dark side is beginning to show a bit.

In any case, for me, Yuki is far from being the only one who is cool here. I like them all now, whatever their personal failings. Perfect people are boring and unreal. Even Hiro seems a more real person to me now that he is dealing with suffering and not just in puppy love.
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Old 2014-08-21, 16:45   Link #479
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All we're seeing is typical teenage angst magnified with some coming-of-age story. Some teenagers want everything to continue the same, even though with adolescence boys become men and girls become women. You see the themes throughout Glasslip.

That being said, I do like this story, although it has the typical anime slowness compared to your usual 2-hour movie with the same theme. The "fragments of the future" mean some will grow up faster than others. But some people want things to stay the same, some want boyfriends or girlfriends, or special memories before they have to grow up.
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Old 2014-08-21, 17:45   Link #480
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Interesting episode. Is it gonna become like Inception where Touko won't be able to distinguish her fragments from real life?

And I'm finding the relationship between Sachi and Hiro to be the most interesting thing at the moment. WHATS GONNA HAPPEN NEXT
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