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Old 2014-01-25, 23:19   Link #161
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The ending of episode 3 did it for me. I'm hooked.
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Old 2014-01-25, 23:29   Link #162
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That's one effective anti-smoking campaign. Venera-sama is endearingly scary as ever. Nice to see some backstory on Yasu and Goro too. Looks like Zvezda's upcoming enemy will be a tough one, though.
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Old 2014-01-25, 23:48   Link #163
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Found the episode quite interesting, Zvesda's intentions may be good but as "evil organization" their way to solve issues are quite extreme.

Plus looks like series is not afraid to subvert tropes at all (that transformation scene...) so things should stay fresh (unlike Last Paradise) and interesting in upcoming episodes.


And about the whole smoking issue, I personally don't smoke but I don't mind that much if others do.
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Old 2014-01-26, 00:46   Link #164
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I'm a non-smoker, and don't enjoy other people's smoke. But I make a point of not worrying about it, so that I am free to be friends with anyone. Nevertheless, I loved the over-the-top attack on smokers. On the one hand, it made fun of holier-than-thou activists. On the other hand, it made fun of smokers, with their dirty habit. Lol.

This episode didn't thrill me, but it was definitely watchable. The straight-faced absurdity of this show is hilarious. Allium's "endearingly scary" is a great description of Venera-sama.
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Old 2014-01-26, 04:13   Link #165
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Old 2014-01-26, 05:00   Link #166
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Best food episode, followed by best smoking episode? Nice. Holy cow things escalated quickly though!

That was certainly a dark version of Kate in the flashback though. I wonder how literal that was. Yasu looked like he was about to crap his pants. And that bomb....

The director certainly wasn't lying. Underneath the charm, there's some dark stuff lurking.
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Old 2014-01-26, 06:26   Link #167
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Why doesn't Kate just hit the smokers with that persuasion thing right from the start so they'll quit smoking? Maybe announce a cigarette giveaway to get them all in one area and hit them in one go.

In any case, I can go along with Kate's war on smokers. Lung cancer is 13 times more likely in current smokers and 4 times more likely in former smokers. And you get to share in the risks when someone lights up next to you, not to mention other side effects such as increased severity of asthma attacks and cardio-pulmonary diseases.
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Old 2014-01-26, 06:52   Link #168
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This series would be one of my favorite for this season. It will be my noucome of the season. I watched it because it immensely entertain me and not bore me to hell. I can also shut my brain off and just enjoy the show. I can't do that to no-rin because the mc irritates me. its funny and crazy and has the right amount of fan service for me to enjoy the show.
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Old 2014-01-26, 08:25   Link #169
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Well, I found this to be hilariously offensive. That is to say, fairly offensive but executed creatively enough to draw out a couple of laughs. The portrayal of smokers as "not having human souls" crosses the line hard enough to come off as somewhat amusing.

I still found it to be quite preachy, but thankfully, it wasn't that bad in the end.
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Old 2014-01-26, 08:43   Link #170
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Why doesn't Kate just hit the smokers with that persuasion thing right from the start so they'll quit smoking? Maybe announce a cigarette giveaway to get them all in one area and hit them in one go.
Because she need to have all the victims in her site to hit them and it probably takes quite long to repeat.
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Old 2014-01-26, 14:21   Link #171
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Old 2014-01-26, 15:18   Link #172
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Coming from a country where one in two people between the ages of 15 and 50 is a regular smoker, and having personally experienced curtains of smoke thick enough to fry Roboko, as well as having chronic health issues from second-hand smoke, I can really relate to this episode. I too do not believe that smokers have a soul (too many parents smoking right next to their toddlers in restaurants), and think that the world would be better off if all smokers were to suddenly die. Too bad that Zvezda failed to conquer smokers...
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Old 2014-01-26, 19:11   Link #173
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I don't think smokers doesn't have souls, more like they totaly lost it due persecution and desperation. Extreme misery can deprive person of all his humanity...

Also even if I am non-smoker and hate second-hand smoking, if I should pick between fanatic mindless mob and group of smokers I would always found later to be lesser evil.
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Old 2014-01-26, 20:24   Link #174
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lol, so much social commentary in episode 3.
The final climax gag with smokers not having a human soul was good.

If it was an american show aired this episode with a similar take and ending, people would get so mad, and the people that wrote it would get fired.
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Old 2014-01-27, 00:24   Link #175
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The director managed to get away with an anti-smoking episode
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Old 2014-01-27, 01:37   Link #176
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I don't think that the objective was to pander anti-smoking fanatics or at least it did as much as it with war fanatics that are willing to kill thousands because they perceive them as evil and inhuman, later in the episode. If anything it showed how fanatics are doing more harm than good, independent of their motives.
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Old 2014-01-27, 06:13   Link #177
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Meh this anti-smokers episode was too much even if we have to take it with a pinch of salt.
If smokers deserve to die then the anti-smokers doesn't deserve to be born.
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Old 2014-01-27, 11:11   Link #178
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I don't think that the objective was to pander anti-smoking fanatics or at least it did as much as it with war fanatics that are willing to kill thousands because they perceive them as evil and inhuman, later in the episode. If anything it showed how fanatics are doing more harm than good, independent of their motives.
^ That. The episode was quick into portraying the smokers as something resembling a secret resistance of freedom fighters, while the anti smoker patrols became scary and menacing. I don't think the message was "smoking is bad". It surely joked on the many reasons for which a non smoker can dislike a smoker, but it soon escalates to the point where the anti-smokers are the fanatics oppressing other people.

This is a comedy, and I think one should pick it with a pinch of salt. If anything, the episode was mocking both smokers and non-smokers, the former for being stubbornly attached against all reason to a fundamentally useless and harmful activity, the latter for being able to be fanatical about their refusal of smoking in any form.
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Old 2014-01-27, 12:25   Link #179
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...If anything, the episode was mocking both smokers and non-smokers....
This. Smokers shouldn't feel singled out. They're making fun of both sides.
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Old 2014-01-27, 14:09   Link #180
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Also, I do think people are taking this way too seriously. Of course this whole entire thing was ridiculous. It's channeled through the ideologies of a ten year old girl!
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