2013-05-14, 10:39 | Link #26461 |
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regarding AC knowing Touma's ability. ı think it was mentioned some scientist (most probably Kiharas) know about it and want to experiment on Touma but Aleister stops them. ı don't remember which volume it was but ı remember reading something like this
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2013-05-14, 10:48 | Link #26463 |
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Everyone in the deepest parts of the dark side knows about Touma and IB, it's not a mystery for anyone. The issue is about everyone in the entirety of the city (without exception) knowing about it.
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2013-05-14, 11:08 | Link #26464 | |
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More like she wants to hurt him a little but not kill him or cause enough harm to put him out of commission for a long time? Or just "defeat" him? At least back in the first novels she was treating him like a rival or a challenge. Like her pride was hurt from not being able to take him down and somewhere along the way her revenge quest turned into a sport and then into stalking and then into whatever it is right now. Rather than tsundere, she used to be actual shonen protagonist Misaka Mikoto with Touma as the aloof mysterious invincible one-sided rival? Now she pretty much dropped the rivalry aspect and started acting like a more straightforward tsundere who shrieks and attack her love interest whenever she's ruffled. And it's supposed to be "cute" and "adorable" because she's a cute girl in luv and it's supposed to be endearing. Meanwhile who cares about Touma's feelings? It's obviously his fault if Misaka chases him around the city for hours just after spotting him while he has tons of homework to do or dinner to prepare. He's a guy and she's a tsundere. That's how it works. It's supposed to be "cute". We're supposed to laugh at his misfortune and he deserves it for being a bad love interest not making his life revolve around her anyway. Not like he has anything better to do with his life like graduating or socializing or idk saving the world on daily basis. Not to mention the constant implication that Misaka is entitled to Touma because SHE has feelings for him. Of course I'm exaggerating a lot since Misaka tends to resort to violence by nature to begin with, love interest or not. Her dere is genuine but her violence must be a level 5 thing instead of a tsun thing. (FiveDere? They're all like that.) And she is genuinely helpful as long as she can keep her cool and doesn't jump to assumptions but this is basically the general outline for most tsundere characters and frankly, I'm tired of them. And she keeps becoming more and more of a typical mindless tsundere every single novel instead of maturing into something calmer and wiser. My greatest wish is to one day see a tsundere kill or hospitalize her love interest and get realistically jailed and chastised for it. Unfortunately even if they smash a steel chair on their heads it gets treated as comedic or romantic and it's always the love interests fault for doing and saying something that ticks the tsundere off for some reason only she can get. Basically; Person A: Aww are you two on a date? Boy: We're just friends. Girl: *bonks with a bat/pushes of a cliff/breaks an arm* IDIOT! Boy: What did I do? Girl: *panics/blushes/storms off CUTELY" Person A: You totally deserved that. Boy: *cries a bit but accepts it* -Rinse and Repeat- Fandom: Aww she's so cute he doesn't deserve her I wish she was my waifu wwwww Tsunderes man. You either love them or hate them. |
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2013-05-14, 11:24 | Link #26466 | |
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2013-05-14, 11:32 | Link #26468 |
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about Misaki... maybe she met touma in his previous school... elementrary or middle school.... like misaki was controling some other girl that was in his class.. and she was learning about touma via that other girls eyes... so they never met in person and it was more like she was the stalker who was observing him (or she heared a lot about touma AC head people as one of the level5).... later maybe they split ways becouse she had to go to different school then touma so they lost contact...
anywya people are like it becouse its fresh and funny... and I wonder when he and misaki will meet in person once again (only to make misaka notice them...wondering what is their relantionship... or thinking misaki used her ability on him to make her angry) |
2013-05-14, 11:39 | Link #26469 | |
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On the other hand look at Miss Trust Issues Misaki; "If you say so then it must be true." and "You wouldn't lie but you might've been tricked." What's going on? Shouldn't this be in reverse? I had high hopes for Misaka after last volume darn it must've been the guilt. |
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2013-05-14, 11:55 | Link #26472 | |||
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She really is firing all those lightning bolts and expecting Touma to come out completely unscathed. Case in point, notice that whenever he actually hits Touma her first reaction is always "eh!! Why did it hit him? He usually just neutralize it!!" even before she notices the actual damages that was done to his body. Quote:
She only resorts to true violence against violent people, I thought that was made pretty clear already. There's also Kuroko but that's only for the comic relief you mentioned (yes it's not Touma's rôle). Using "violence" to characterize her is deforming her character. She's hotblooded yes but "violent", not that much. The part that pisses me off the most and everyone was saying it is probably the "And she keeps becoming more and more of a typical mindless tsundere every single novel instead of maturing into something calmer and wiser.". She clearly fired lightnings at him in only two instance during the NT volumes : 1. He was drunk and guess how the conversation went. 2. “First you leave me behind at Hawaii, then you suddenly grope my chest when we meet again, and now you’re flirting with some girl like it’s a normal thing! Do you never think about explaining anything or apologizing for anything!?” => please remember that she did nothing when he groped her. It actually took him acting like an asshole several times for her to fire a single damn lightning bolt ... and please remember that she didn't even expect that same lightning bolt to hit. And you guys still dare says she got worse. And as a bonus, there's the scene during NT7 that everyone is complaining about. What did she do? She just shouted, she did nothing but shouting at a supposedly pervert. The guy ran like the suspicious guy he is before anything even happened, and guess what? What she wanted was explanation, not beating the shit out of him. Even Touma stated he could actually have talked to her, he just didn't want to waste time trying to calm her down and reasoning her ... which is actually something he didn't need to do in the first place since what the other party wants is listening to explanations. Quote:
And damn, I was ninjaed by thousands of people.
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I find your last line insulting because it feels like you're putting good tsunderes like Ai-chan, Hina, Yuri, etc in the same bag with Louise, Taiga and Mikoto. |
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2013-05-14, 12:03 | Link #26475 |
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Nah I just mean the true love kill kill ones and THIS is the reason why I avoided this thread and came to hate this ship to begin with. People derailing every single discussion with KamiMiko delusions. Uggu I actually shipped this before I found the fandom and now I just wish Misaka would get written out of main novels so that I won't end up hating her as well.
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2013-05-14, 12:17 | Link #26480 | ||
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Even if she knows that sending sparks at him won't hurt him, it still doesn't excuse the fact that she did attack him. Had she been willing to just ask "Hey! What are you doing here?" and possibly offer her assistance instead screaming "You pervert!" at him as soon as she saw him, that would be development for her. That would be some maturation on her part. Before anyone says that she is a product of her environment, the School Garden, look at the fact that she has been exposed to far more than most students in the School Garden, even Academy City as a whole. She's been through the Level Upper, RSPK, and Sisters ordeals. She's seen conflicts of interest between opposing forces (Liberal Arts City), entered the battlefields of WWIII, assisted in preventing a violent invasion and take over of a large government in Hawaii, and fought a saint (something which the only other person in Academy City who did so was Kamijou) while claiming: Quote:
So DON'T make the excuse of lack of exposure or flowing with the environment because neither is feasible. Ahhh...finally got that off my chest. Last edited by Hiss13; 2013-05-14 at 12:27. |
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