GATE - Light Novel Discussion

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by jasper222

you know, i'm looking at other forums and laughing somewhat at them esp 4chan. they're saying the diet should have been debriefed and whatnot, but i guess they missed the whole MEDIA at the back and that this whole debacle IS FOR THE PUBLIC SINCE THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW and the senator who lashed out at itami IS JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION.

also manga is the compressed version of the novel. don't like don't read. it's not the source material anyways.

Trolling and calling something stupid is just a normal day on /a/.

[jasper222]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Trolling and calling something stupid is just a normal day on /a/.

lol. why are they so mad about japan strutting their jsdf feathers in this manga, shouting japan rightists and nippon strong when nearly everything hollywood spits out is centered in america. i don't see other countries complaining about that.

i just hope someone translates the light novels at least. it would be closer to the original work and at the same time be shorter.

but i like the novel cover art more. they look so elegant. light novel cover art is what they would look like in anime i guess.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by jasper222

lol. why are they so mad about japan strutting their jsdf feathers in this manga, shouting japan rightists and nippon strong when nearly everything hollywood spits out is centered in america. i don't see other countries complaining about that.

I think you need to spend more time on /a/, like I said, trolling and calling something stupid is just a normal day. Gate got popular over there, so trolls came out and started stupid arguments, it's normal.

[Chirst]

Got some info about this novel (extra volume)

Spoiler for spoil:

This volume tells about 5 months after gate closed. Itami and his force still live in the warcraft world at Alnus area. However, his force faces the shortage of supply like fuel and food. Pina is now an emperess but her empire weakened so much and empire colonies begin to insubordinate. As a result , Pena requests helps from Itami since she needs the diplomatic negotiation rather than war and then she goes with Itami but both of them get MIA and live with Mermiad clan for a while. Itami's girls (Lelei , Rori , Tuka and dark elf) know his MIA and try to find him

PS. Here is some info about how other characters live in this volume
-Rori is busy with constructing the Emroy's temple at Alnus hill
-Pina is an emperess who is facinated in the japanese culture which learned from Itami (manga , anime and others)
-Kurata is going out with Persian maid (cat tribe in the maid uniform)
-Tomita is married with Boze (who gets pregnant later)
-General Hazama and coloniel Kengun still live in this warcraft world

credited by hinatasekime

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[jasper222]

Originally Posted by Xacual

I think you need to spend more time on /a/, like I said, trolling and calling something stupid is just a normal day. Gate got popular over there, so trolls came out and started stupid arguments, it's normal.

nah i don't wanna go to /a/ anymore. people are gonna be mocked there either way.

@chirst: who's the new characters? also source please.

Spoiler for for the spoilers:

so they're all inside the gate and cannot return to the real world anymore? that's kinda sad. how are they going to get oil and arms?

[SPARTAN 119]

Just ran across this the other day and liked what I read. I read all the currently available chapters in one go.

It will be interesting to see how this goes as far as the politics surrounding the gate. If another gate opens in China, or if they somehow managed to open one themselves, things could get very interesting really quick. If multiple countries were to get gates of their own, it would no doubt result in the partitioning of the world in various spheres of influence, possibly resulting in rival Russian/Chinese and US/NATO/Japan alliance, or multiple, smaller empires.

Also, considering that within fifty years of European conquest, Native Americans were using firearms, it is also possible that you might end up with inhabitants of the Special Region getting a hold of firearms and fighting a guerrilla war against the invaders, possibly launching surprise attacks on oil wells or mining operations set up after nations and corporations start investing in the resources in the Special Region.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

Also, considering that within fifty years of European conquest, Native Americans were using firearms, it is also possible that you might end up with inhabitants of the Special Region getting a hold of firearms and fighting a guerrilla war against the invaders, possibly launching surprise attacks on oil wells or mining operations set up after nations and corporations start investing in the resources in the Special Region.

Yes, but there were reasons for that. Namely that there were multiple parties and agencies operating in the new world. Such as fur traders and rival colonial powers. Fur traders have an incentive to trade guns, since Indians would be willing to give allot of fur for guns, and other colonial powers would want to arm the natives to sabotage their rivals activity in the new world.


As long as there is only one gate and Japan controls it, they'd have a relatively easy time maintaining an arms embargo. It's not like an arms dealer or foreign military power is gonna be able to just drive through the gate, and the JSDF military complex on the other side, then start selling/handing over weapons to the local yokels.


Barring the locals access to modern weaponry would actually be pretty easy.

[MrTerrorist]

Well what do you know?
There's already fanart for this series at danbooru.

Here's the link. Warning! May contain NSFW ads.

PS: I also found out what's the name of that Dark Elf chick.

Spoiler for Her name?:

Yao.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Well what do you know?
There's already fanart for this series at danbooru.

Here's the link. Warning! May contain NSFW ads.

Looks like the stuff from pixiv.

[Ddraig]

That extra volume look to me like Itami and Pina were on honeymoon without telling all his mistress and they all out hunting for him lol.

[jasper222]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Well what do you know?
There's already fanart for this series at danbooru.

Here's the link. Warning! May contain NSFW ads.

PS: I also found out what's the name of that Dark Elf chick.

Spoiler for Her name?:

Yao.

Her name reminds me of this person:

Spoiler for name:

Fanart

[SPARTAN 119]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Yes, but there were reasons for that. Namely that there were multiple parties and agencies operating in the new world. Such as fur traders and rival colonial powers. Fur traders have an incentive to trade guns, since Indians would be willing to give allot of fur for guns, and other colonial powers would want to arm the natives to sabotage their rivals activity in the new world.


As long as there is only one gate and Japan controls it, they'd have a relatively easy time maintaining an arms embargo. It's not like an arms dealer or foreign military power is gonna be able to just drive through the gate, and the JSDF military complex on the other side, then start selling/handing over weapons to the local yokels.


Barring the locals access to modern weaponry would actually be pretty easy.

I get that would work if Japan controls the only gate. However, if another gate opens up- and quite frankly some of the political drama might be foreshadowing that, it is not at all unlikely that this could turn into something similar to the colonial powers in North America or Africa.

[Roger Rambo]

Originally Posted by SPARTAN 119

I get that would work if Japan controls the only gate. However, if another gate opens up- and quite frankly some of the political drama might be foreshadowing that, it is not at all unlikely that this could turn into something similar to the colonial powers in North America or Africa.

Okay, but here's the thing. HOW do the gates get created? If they're intentionally created, then it's not likely more of them will be opening up on earth any time soon. Why would the locals to the magical world want to invite even MORE ways for modern armies to invade their world? Sure it'd inconvenience the Japanese, but it makes the local fantasy peoples situation worse. And they're (or at least some of them) are presumably the only ones who actually have the capability to to create gates. So the people who can presumably make gates have no reason to make more, and the ones with reason to make more have no direct access to learn how to do it.


Which honestly makes the US completely passing up the opportunity to send troops through the gate along with the Japanese pretty damn crazy.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Which honestly makes the US completely passing up the opportunity to send troops through the gate along with the Japanese pretty damn crazy.

Gate world isn't totally like ours. The US doesn't have troops to spare to send through the Gate, that was said back in chapter 2 or 3.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Gate world isn't totally like ours. The US doesn't have troops to spare to send through the Gate, that was said back in chapter 2 or 3.

that is just for the story. No matter how stretch, the US can also sent some troops.

[jasper222]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

that is just for the story. No matter how stretch, the US can also sent some troops.

Stop forcing your logic, manga already said that US can't spare anyone since they're in Iraq.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

that is just for the story. No matter how stretch, the US can also sent some troops.

More like the public would be against it. How would the public think if the military is fighting three separate wars at once? Besides that, wars are costly. Ammunition and fuel costs money. Not to mention transportation fees, soldiers are paid much more if they are deployed to fight overseas.They are already blowing the budget with two wars. A third war would put the U.S in greater debt.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by darthfanta

More like the public would be against it. How would the public think if the military is fighting three separate wars at once? Besides that, wars are costly. Ammunition and fuel costs money. Not to mention transportation fees, soldiers are paid much more if they are deployed to fight overseas.They are already blowing the budget with two wars. A third war would put the U.S in greater debt.

please, the US doesn't have to sent in a 100k troops or even 10k. But something like 1000 troops would be separable no matter how stretch the US was in Iraq.

[Avrorrange]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

please, the US doesn't have to sent in a 100k troops or even 10k. But something like 1000 troops would be separable no matter how stretch the US was in Iraq.

They won't have political backing either. It's difficult to find political support for a third war with the first two already under public condemnation. Besides that, the one thousand troops would most probably have to operate under Japanese command. I doubt the U.S is willing to act under the command of a nation they have long considered a lacky...cough cough... I mean 'ally'. Besides that, one thousand guys, even with modern weaponry, would be too difficult to conduct a full scale invasion. There's no doubt they can defeat any imperial field army, but wouldn't be able to occupy any area. And guerilla warfare can most certainly take out such a force if they really did decide to spread 1k men all over the empire. The U.S and it's allies isn't able to curb the insurgency in Afghanistan with nearly half a million men, what makes you think that one thousand men could do any better?

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

please, the US doesn't have to sent in a 100k troops or even 10k. But something like 1000 troops would be separable no matter how stretch the US was in Iraq.

In Gate World it's not just Iraq or Afganistan, the war there is a lot more spread than that. Please stop thinking the situation is exactly like our world.