(L) Gambling Apocalypse Kaiji

[Slice of Life]

Originally Posted by noob3d

@Nenkitsune

yea I understand but like I mentioned before it doesn't really give me the HOLY CRAP feeling since I have seen plenty of these references in Lucky Star/Hayate no Gotoku for example to the point that it becomes almost a normal occurence now to me in anime.However, using it sparingly is always a good thing to poke some fun at other anime/manga =D imo

Eh ... I doubt that the reference was meant to "poke fun". I wouldn't have mentioned it then. The whole episode where this happened was very dark. Actually, I found this scene which BTW

Spoiler:

didn't end up in that guy actually walking over the bar, but still in his death

more intense than the original because the whole setting was more realistic. By no means that scene can be compared to anything in Lucky Star. It's like watching Kaiji #20 and saying "Oh, how cute, they are poking fun at van Gogh".

[Keiichi no Hibi]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Spoiler for Episode 19:

I didn't like the preceding few episodes because I thought that it took the gambling and human lives concept a little bit too far, especially with showing the ear drum piercing part. Episode 19 pretty much reminded me that it won't happen to Kaiji, and that I should have more hope in him. That means a lot to me even if it doesn't make sense to anyone who read this.

.. I'm sorry but this made me laugh really badly.

[KholdStare]

Originally Posted by Keiichi no Hibi

.. I'm sorry but this made me laugh really badly.

Why? Is it because I sound like a 12 year old girl with too much emotions?

[noob3d]

Originally Posted by Slice of Life

Eh ... I doubt that the reference was meant to "poke fun". I wouldn't have mentioned it then. The whole episode where this happened was very dark. Actually, I found this scene which BTW

Spoiler:

didn't end up in that guy actually walking over the bar, but still in his death

more intense than the original because the whole setting was more realistic. By no means that scene can be compared to anything in Lucky Star. It's like watching Kaiji #20 and saying "Oh, how cute, they are poking fun at van Gogh".

erm I was not refering to that episode.I was refering to lucky star and hayate no gotoku as in the reason they slit in the anime references was to poke fun at other series for added comedy value but of course the scene in the screenshot was no laughing matter.Sorry if was not very clear.

[CCYoshi]

Only tangentially on topic, but - does anyone have any details on the jacket that Kaiji always wears around? (the "Far East Air Force" one)

I was contemplating attempting a cosplay of Kaiji for an upcoming anime convention, since it seems simple enough, but I want to make sure I get the little details right, because, well, there's not a lot of aspects to Kaiji. XD I found a picture of the sheet on the back of his jacket but the rest eludes me. I think I might be able to figure the patches on the front out when I get some better reference shots from the anime but I'm kind of lost on where to start, figuring with what kind of jacket it is and whatnot (yeah, I'm horrible with clothes, so this is what I could probably use the most help on. and it's the easiest, hopefully, what a coincidence eh?). So if anyone knows this kind of stuff for no good reason, please help a novice. Thanks. ^^

Although, a bit on-topic, it might be a touch hard to achieve full realism considering the latest events in episode 20. I don't think anyone would go that far. Truly a very gripping episode, and it's entertaining seeing the psycho-genius side of Kaiji, instead of the more calculating side from games past.

[Keiichi no Hibi]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Why? Is it because I sound like a 12 year old girl with too much emotions?

Spoiler for Episode 20:

Because Kaiji ended up ripping his ear off?

[Nenkitsune]

Originally Posted by Blaat

A question regarding the soundtrack, does 'zawazawa' mean anything?

found this on a review of episode one

Manga is always packed with random sound effects floating through air, but usually these aren’t included in anime adaptations for the obvious reason that anime has actual sound. Fukumoto, however, is somewhat infamous for “zawa zawa”, a sound effect he made up himself, thus they apparently decided to incorporate it into the show.

It’s derived from the Japanese verb zawameku (ざわめく), which means “to be agitated or unsettled”. Much like the “audible sharpness” of swords in samurai flicks, Fukumoto created a sort of “audible tension” to help convey the gravity of the situation to the reader.

[KholdStare]

Originally Posted by Keiichi no Hibi

Spoiler for Episode 20:

Because Kaiji ended up ripping his ear off?

Oh that. I was kinda referring to him escaping death, but at least I see where you're coming from.

[Deathkillz]

ep 21

Spoiler:

Zawaaaa continues...

So what kaiji tried to do was to trick tonegawa into thinking that those two cards on the table where he splashed blood on (and that left a stain) was a citizen or slave, hence this would work to his advantage knowing when to not play the emperor, but this is just what kaiji wanted as he dragged the game on for longer (down to the last two cards he was hoping I bet).

However, when it seemed like he was able to trick him into placing the final citizen down, tonegawa realised that he was about to be tricked and changed his mind, putting down the emperor instead...

It doesn't look good if that card kaiji placed was a citizen but gut feeling is that he went for the reverse psychology trick...(ie, all three cards had his blood on),go on kaiji!!

[LifeILL]

just saw episode 21...

The first half of this episode went by QUICK....wow that was some of the most tense moments in Kaiji ever.


But the second half was more explanations again. The cliffhanger is ridiculous....how can I wait a week for this??

Spoiler:

That kaiji blood thing was quite shocking, I didn't think they would actually go THAT FAR. I thought of it beforehand but didn't think Tonegawa would even think of picking it up. But I'm a little disappointed in the fact that Tonegawa was cheating, I thought he really can read people's minds. But then again, Kaiji beating him would be a little unrealistic. There are 4 episodes left. I wonder what they are going to be about.

[Deathkillz]

ep 22

Spoiler:

Holy crap...

Not because kaiji out smarted tonegawa yet again but because of what happened to tonegawa afterwards...

Because of his loss the boss had to punish him in order to get some fun out of seeing someone suffer...and that meant grilling him alive...

Tonegawa was forced to bow, sitting on top of a HOT grill for 20 seconds...and if he wasn't going to do it, he would have been forced...

So like a man he did...and kaiji even cried manly tears for him.

Now that he realised who his real enemy is, it seems like kaiji is thinking about challenging the boss himself

[whitepearl]

Yea, I just finished watching 22 myself and it looks like

Spoiler for Kaiji's thoughts from episode 22:

Kaiji realizes that the Chairman is the real enemy and not so much Tonegawa. Tonegawa was just following orders.

Speaking of Tonegawa, found this on niconico...I think those who have seen episode 22 will see this more as a tribute :heh (but if you haven't, it's okay...it just scenes of how the beginning of E Card looked in the manga set to a pop song that has spread across all of Japan...)

Spoiler for DO THE TONEGAWA SHUFFLE:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2500922

[Highfirex]

The 21st sub is up.

I need to watch it tomorrow.

[Holy Knight]

Just saw 21.

It would be a great cliffhanger had I not found out that there was more episodes left. Kaiji will have to live, or the story ends. It's not like I'd care if Tonegawa or chairman did something to those other scrubs. He'll live, and either win the game, or somehow escape death through other means. I just can't see it any other way.

[Clarste]

Hehe, this is exactly what I thought would happen, up to and including the second guessing by Tonegawa (look back a page). Still epically presented though. Can't wait for 22.

[noob3d]

great episode for 21. I was on the edge of my seat the whole time =O.Too bad I have to wait until next week to see who dies.But I get the feeling that it might be tonegawa(just my speculation).I think Kaiji is gonna give the money he wins to that guy who died's wife(ishikawa is it?) to pay off her debts.I doubt it is a good idea but Kaiji is that kind of a guy.Gifted,cunning,a warrior but has a soft spot for sob stories.Like how he took in Andoh and Furuhata(although I admit it was also because he couldn't do it alone) and believed that their "bond" could overcome anything.If it was me I would have killed them off when I got out lol instead of letting them live.

Anyway,I hope I can keep myself from watching the raw for 22. =/

[KholdStare]

Episode 21 was really good, yes.

[Chrono Helix]

Why would Kaiji die if he loses? He's only betting 18mm in that ear.

[NoSanninWa]

Wrong, he's betting his life. The total distance he's bet counts against him regardless of ear. The 18 mm is merely this bet.

[SuperKnuckles]

You could tell by the way the needle was already half way in. Also I'd think it'd be common knowledge for the bet to continue as is. Resetting wouldn't make any sense.