To Aru Kagaku no Railgun - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[tsunade666]

right........... he can't dispel it. His dead. Its different from the graviton.

[therethere]

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

ep 11

hey! its Ritsu!!... oh wait, wrong studio...

wrong studio but same seiyuu!

[BlueDo]

The end of the episode feels funny

HOLY CRAP WHERE DID THIS MONSTER COME FROM
Dear my friend~

[Ichiban Hayai]

The episode was very good, apart from the way the villains' flashback was revealed.

I really hate when anime use cheap, convinient Deus-ex machina to advance the story.
Perhaps they could have used another way to show us the flashback.

Awesome episode none the less. Can't wait for the next one...

[MartianMage]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Mahh~ That won't stop her from teleporting a 2 ton slab of concrete and metal on top of him...

That's true but if Touma vs. Kiyama ever happens of course Touma will win(cause he's the good guy lol) and how will that happen? Neutralize skill and punch. *yawn*

Yeah I hate Touma. To Aru Majutsu no Index bored me cause of Touma. =/

[velvet nightmare]

Originally Posted by BlueDo

The end of the episode feels funny

HOLY CRAP WHERE DID THIS MONSTER COME FROM
Dear my friend~

i thought the same thing lol

i knew the end of the episode was when the monster did its scream, so i was wondering how they were going to transition it into the ending song rofl, luckily they had that 'to be continued' screen

but anyways, wtf. why didn't she just teleport mikoto when she grabbed her, so stupid, she could have easily won, and she showed intelligence with the gravity teleport thing too

[Yufankun]

Most likely teleporting a whole person was out of her league. Kuroko is a level 4 teleporter, and can manage to teleport about 130 kg worth of mass at a distance of up to about 80 metres. Kiyama's network probably only had a couple of level 1-2 teleporters in it.

[MartianMage]

Originally Posted by Yufankun

Most likely teleporting a whole person was out of her league. Kuroko is a level 4 teleporter, and can manage to teleport about 130 kg worth of mass at a distance of up to about 80 metres. Kiyama's network probably only had a couple of level 1-2 teleporters in it.

I'd have to disagree with that. Seeing the strength of the skills Kiyama is doing I'd say she's doing at least lvl4 strength on all skills. The level of the skill depends on the brain and with her network it's not so far fetched if she even reaches lvl5 strength on all the skills she's doing.

The network isn't about the individual level of the LU users. The network helps people perform their skills better.

[velvet nightmare]

syncing the minds increases the power of level 1-2 into a 3-4

if she can make cans explode she is at least level 4 using gravity

[Yufankun]

The network made people better at utilizing their powers because they got support from others with the same powers in it. I believe teleport is a rare ability, so there probably isn't very many teleporters in the network, meaning there could be a limit to how high a level in teleporting she could get.

But honestly, the reason she didn't teleport Mikoto is because it was something the anime just added in. In the manga she doesn't show any indication of even having a teleport, and instead just tossed the can behind mikoto while the former was busy with the cans in the air.

At any rate the difference between a Level 5 and those below is huge.

[velvet nightmare]

Originally Posted by Yufankun

The network made people better at utilizing their powers because they got support from others with the same powers in it. I believe teleport is a rare ability, so there probably isn't very many teleporters in the network, meaning there could be a limit to how high a level in teleporting she could get.

But honestly, the reason she didn't teleport Mikoto is because it was something the anime just added in. In the manga she doesn't show any indication of even having a teleport, and instead just tossed the can behind mikoto while the former was busy with the cans in the air.

At any rate the difference between a Level 5 and those below is huge.

yet there was only one level 4 graviton on record in ALL of academic city and she successfully copied it. rarity and number of users is irrelevant.

if stripper lady just covered herself in asphalt or concrete from the start it would have been over

sure mikoto is supposed to win b/c of plot but on paper kiyama is just too overpowered to lose with her level of intellect

[durack]

Originally Posted by velvet nightmare

sure mikoto is supposed to win b/c of plot but on paper kiyama is just too overpowered to lose with her level of intellect

On paper, but in real world she has no "combat experience" either physically or mentally. She is not Accelerator or even Touma, she is a nerd with no social skills who hatched a desperate scheme because of guilt.

Let me put it this way: take 10 computer nerds, give them automatic rifles and put them against 10 special forces soldiers armed with knives, who do you think is going to win?

[Jin Kizuite]

Episode was sickkkkkkkkkkkk.

[Patriot's Blade]

off-topic

Spoiler for my latest infraction by a troll:

[because *gasp!* Touma won't appearing for this fight

what!?, hello? i was just joking about Touma's love belongs to her, WTF?, why so serious?

btw, back on-topic
& about the experiments & that monster?
those kids, how about their parents!? their family!? are they going to hide that aswell!?

so the level upper experiments are somehow related to the Misaka clone sisters army? & the AIM + that monster is closely related to a certain busty meganekko girl from Index?

a hint on her true self & form perhaps? which is the reason why she said by herself that a "monster" like her shouldn't have any friends in the first place?

Touma sure has an interesting harem there...

[Nochgo]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Yet there was interesting about him. Very Interesting.....

Spoiler for The credits:

I notice something about his name

Spoiler for manga spoiler:

You can now be shocked.

Unfortunately, I don't see you point T.T Are you talking about the 'ki' part of his name thats the same?

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by BlueDo

The end of the episode feels funny

HOLY CRAP WHERE DID THIS MONSTER COME FROM
Dear my friend~

The thing is similar to Hyouka. Remember her? She was created by converging AIM fields.

Aleister Crowley in the shadows as to not tip off anybody about what is really going on in his city likely denied Harumi Kiyama's request for the Tree Diagram. (In the manga it was a moot point as Index already destroyed the Kaguya satellite. Leaving Level Upper as the only course for Harumi.)

The whole thing with Kiyama's kids is reminicent of Sherry Cromwell's friend Ellis who died because of an experiment. With similar symptom of bleeding. In Ellis case being turned to a magician-esper hybrid.

Yeah Scientists in this city are bastards.

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

off-topic

btw, back on-topic
& about the experiments & that monster?
those kids, how about their parents!? their family!? are they going to hide that aswell!?

Child Errors are abandoned children. The Bastard senior scientist is saying nobody would miss them. Well somebody apparently did!

Originally Posted by DRAGUN H.E.X.

off-topic

so the level upper experiments are somehow related to the Misaka clone sisters army? & the AIM + that monster is closely related to a certain busty meganekko girl from Index?

a hint on her true self & form perhaps? which is the reason why she said by herself that a "monster" like her shouldn't have any friends in the first place?

Hence why the higher ups , Aleister Crowley to be exact, wants to get rid of the data as its too damn close to his main projects in the shadows.

[velvet nightmare]

Originally Posted by durack

On paper, but in real world she has no "combat experience" either physically or mentally. She is not Accelerator or even Touma, she is a nerd with no social skills who hatched a desperate scheme because of guilt.

Let me put it this way: take 10 computer nerds, give them automatic rifles and put them against 10 special forces soldiers armed with knives, who do you think is going to win?

except it's 10 nerds who know how to use the guns against only 1 special forces

evil master mind rule #1: make sure you actually killed the person before turning your back. this always happens

Spoiler for manga:

later on mikoto says she 'spotted' the can behind her feeling it out with magnetism. there's nothing to suggest that kiyama couldn't have felt mikoto out using telekinesis or that shield of hers. conclusion: kiyama loses fight in a rather simple way to appeal to the reader like touma wins by walking up to someone in a straight line and punching them in the face

[BlueDo]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

The thing is similar to ...

Yeah... I was trying to keep Index-related info out of this thread.
That was more of an exclamation rather than a question

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Spoiler for ellis:

f\The whole thing with Kiyama's kids is reminicent of Sherry Cromwell's friend Ellis who died because of an experiment. With similar symptom of bleeding. In Ellis case being turned to a magician-esper hybrid.

I guess so, though Kiyama's purpose and resolve was completely different.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by velvet nightmare

except it's 10 nerds who know how to use the guns against only 1 special forces

The point still stands though, do you think he would have lost?

Originally Posted by velvet nightmare

evil master mind rule #1: make sure you actually killed the person before turning your back. this always happens

She didn't intend to kill her in the first place; Yeah I know, big explosions- But she probably thought a Level 5 should be able to handle it.

[MartianMage]

Originally Posted by durack

On paper, but in real world she has no "combat experience" either physically or mentally. She is not Accelerator or even Touma, she is a nerd with no social skills who hatched a desperate scheme because of guilt.

Let me put it this way: take 10 computer nerds, give them automatic rifles and put them against 10 special forces soldiers armed with knives, who do you think is going to win?

And you're implying that somehow... Misaka, who is a middle schooler, merits enough combat experience to offset Kiyama's advantage? Speaking of Accelerator all that guy ever did was rely on his broken ability. Combat experience? He lost to Touma who is also a middle schooler. =/

It's as velvet nightmare said, Misaka won because of plot.

And this one nerd just massacred a whole bunch of trained "anti-skills."