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GDB · 2013-10-12, 19:26

Thank god. They're doing a showing near me BEFORE 14+ hour days start.

blakstealth · 2013-10-12, 19:44

They're showing it in Buffalo?! FUCKIN YES

Renge · 2013-10-12, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-on-december-6

Well good news for people in those areas!

So close..... yet so far..... 2 hrs away. I hate not being able to drive there

mitsuganae · 2013-10-14, 12:37

So, should we read any tea leaves into this?

Shinhwa · 2013-10-14, 12:49

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...-on-december-6

Well good news for people in those areas!

WHOOOOOOOOOO

I should go watch it when it comes out

I live in Toronto so I can just go watch XD

RobotCat · 2013-10-14, 13:17

The premiere is 20 minutes away from where I live. Gonna get those rare loots for sure.

speedyexpress48 · 2013-10-14, 23:39

Oooh, Littleton! Well, it's a hour away and I would have preferred Denver like last show, but still, hellz yeah

blakstealth · 2013-10-16, 20:03

Turns out that I'm going with my dad. this should be an interesting experience omg lol.

LightDragonman · 2013-10-17, 01:52

I'll definitely try to catch the one in Portland, like I did last year.

Did I mention that this one looks to be quite a mind screw?

mitsuganae · 2013-10-17, 12:01

If the movie goes for the ridiculously obvious "Homura is made to depend on others and learns the power of friendship" fucking bullshit I just might raise a gun to my head or bite a cyanide capsule -- or both!

After the excellent concept and execution of the series, I fear the movie has nowhere else to go but down. I hope I'm wrong, but as the 26th approaches the dread within me rises.

Lenneth4 · 2013-10-17, 12:25

If you want the movie to be disappointing then it will be disappointing.

mitsuganae · 2013-10-17, 12:40

^ Never said I wanted a disappointing product, only that my expectations aren't high.

Triple_R · 2013-10-17, 12:43

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Originally Posted by mitsuganae

If the movie goes for the ridiculously obvious "Homura is made to depend on others and learns the power of friendship" fucking bullshit I just might raise a gun to my head or bite a cyanide capsule -- or both!

Yeah, because nothing says mature human being than an absolute refusal to get help from others even when facing dire circumstances. Am I right?

mitsuganae · 2013-10-17, 12:48

^ I'm just hoping the cliche is avoided, that's all. The movie's plot/message doesn't need to approach such a cliche if it doesn't want/need to.

AuraTwilight · 2013-10-17, 13:48

Considering how successful the series has been at deconstructing and reconstructing Magical Girl tropes as it is, you can probably rest easy. If they do lean towards that sort of aesop, the presentation will be innovative enough.

Everything has been done; it's execution that matters. Either way, though, 'friendship' aside, Homura is clearly going to learn something as the main point of the movie. It's pretty unavoidable.

mitsuganae · 2013-10-17, 14:30

^ All good points, though cliches are harder to use effectively because they are very obvious and well-worn, even when compared to other tropes. If they do use the "you can't [do it]/[go on] alone, so accept the help of friends" cliche (some lines from the trailers seem to point in that direction, alas), the execution will have to be very innovative indeed for me to be able to swallow it.

Triple_R · 2013-10-17, 14:35

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Originally Posted by mitsuganae

^ I'm just hoping the cliche is avoided, that's all. The movie's plot/message doesn't need to approach such a cliche if it doesn't want/need to.

Some ideas and messages are cliche because they're generally accurate and universally appreciable (i.e. friendship exists in almost every culture known to humanity).

It is possible to get too caught up in the meta-realm, and not focus enough on what makes sense within the story itself.

If it makes sense for Homura to start relying more on the other Puella Magi in order to solve a difficult problem then that's what really matters, imo.

All of that being said, what about Mami and Sayaka getting into major fights with Homura makes you think this movie is all about friendship?

Even if Homura starts working with the other Puella Magi to solve major problems, it'll probably be more about "putting aside differences to accomplish common goals" then a sort of PreCure-esque "friendship conquers all!" The only Puella Magi that Homura ever developed a real friendship with was Madoka. Homura may have respected Kyouko and Mami, but she never struck me as being that close to them. And Homura and Sayaka are typically at odds, of course.

GDB · 2013-10-17, 15:12

So... you're saying she's taking the Batman route? Doesn't play well with others, but will still play with them when necessary?

Hiroi Sekai · 2013-10-17, 15:14

It's gonna premiere real close to here, for that I am excited. Problem is, it's about a 5 hour drive away down what's considered the most dangerous highway smack dab at the beginning of December. Kinda wishing this premiered just a bit earlier, now I have to do some serious debating. >.<

Triple_R · 2013-10-17, 15:18

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Originally Posted by GDB

So... you're saying she's taking the Batman route? Doesn't play well with others, but will still play with them when necessary?

Well, there's no living person that means as much to Batman as Madoka means to Homura. But other than that, yeah, I expect Homura to be like Batman.

I don't expect Homura to go all buddy-buddy with people she'll be spending a good portion of the movie in serious combat with. If that happens, it'll probably seem like BS to me too.

But I do think she (and Mami/Sayaka) might have to put differences aside to accomplish common goals.

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mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	^ All good points, though cliches are harder to use effectively because they are very obvious and well-worn, even when compared to other tropes. If they do use the "you can't [do it]/[go on] alone, so accept the help of friends" cliche (some lines from the trailers seem to point in that direction, alas), the execution will have to be very innovative indeed for me to be able to swallow it. Last edited by mitsuganae; 2013-10-17 at 14:56.

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Thank god. They're doing a showing near me BEFORE 14+ hour days start.

2013-10-12, 19:44	Link #202
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	They're showing it in Buffalo?! FUCKIN YES

2013-10-14, 12:37	Link #204
mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	So, should we read any tea leaves into this?

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RobotCat In a Box Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Somewhere on the west coast	The premiere is 20 minutes away from where I live. Gonna get those rare loots for sure.

2013-10-16, 20:03	Link #208
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Turns out that I'm going with my dad. this should be an interesting experience omg lol.

2013-10-17, 01:52	Link #209
LightDragonman Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013	I'll definitely try to catch the one in Portland, like I did last year. Did I mention that this one looks to be quite a mind screw?

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mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	If the movie goes for the ridiculously obvious "Homura is made to depend on others and learns the power of friendship" fucking bullshit I just might raise a gun to my head or bite a cyanide capsule -- or both! After the excellent concept and execution of the series, I fear the movie has nowhere else to go but down. I hope I'm wrong, but as the 26th approaches the dread within me rises.

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mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	^ Never said I wanted a disappointing product, only that my expectations aren't high.

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mitsuganae Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009	^ I'm just hoping the cliche is avoided, that's all. The movie's plot/message doesn't need to approach such a cliche if it doesn't want/need to.

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	So... you're saying she's taking the Batman route? Doesn't play well with others, but will still play with them when necessary?