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ReaperxKingx · 2012-09-01, 18:48

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Originally Posted by AzureWrath

Why all the hate on Phil? I don't think he is a horrible antagonist or person. You can see he is just coldly logical and driven by his objective. I find villains like that much more refreshing than the manically evil kind.

Well, most people judge on character's morality. Here we have Phil, although ordered to, he could have done it in many ways to prevent himself being seen as a bad guy. Instead he went and hurt bystanders of a different world, attempted to rape or forcefully make a sexual encounter of a women, and admitted that she was bait to draw in and kill all of her people. He is looking like an Antagonist to me my friend.

sapper · 2012-09-01, 19:07

fuck that phil dude he made miu cry...KILL HIM AKATSUKI! ;p overall this eps was a bunch of talk to get people pumped for the fight...awsomesauce lol ;p

AzureWrath · 2012-09-01, 19:11

There is probably something more to see here between Akatsuki and Phil. I'm thinking Phil went to obtain Myuu both because of an order to do so and because he wants to prove himself against Akatsuki. This will probably be more clear next episode, but I can't see them passing by this old trope.

For you guys saying he is hurting bystanders....well he spared both of Myuu's friends and the redheaded guy (even gave clear warnings to that redheaded guy!). He made it known that he just came to this world to retrieve (an alive) Myuu and only threatened Myuu when she was thinking of killing herself. There is clear logic in his actions.

The attempted rape is probably the worst thing he did. The best I can do with this to cover for Phil is that he was trying to break down Myuu so that she would obey him and just come along with him. It is hard to pass that by, but Akatsuki isn't the poster child in these kind of matters either. He also subconsciously raped Myuu himself and constantly assaults the women around him. The best I can do with this to cover for Phil is that he was trying to break down Myuu so that she would obey him and just come along with him.

evil|plushie · 2012-09-01, 20:08

Phil is just horribly horribly narrow-minded. He has no idea what he's getting into but he doesn't care because all he has is his own sinister goal in mind.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-09-01, 21:06

funny how the attempted rape cuz its another character is ignored Akatsuki seemed like he woulda raped class rep in episode 3 and strip her one peice naked in the beach episode tsk tsk such a boring double standard hm more i think about it Akatsuki reminds me of Fukuyama except hes not badass just an ass.

Xaturas · 2012-09-01, 21:13

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

funny how the attempted rape cuz its another character is ignored Akatsuki seemed like he woulda raped class rep in episode 3 and strip her one peice naked in the beach episode tsk tsk such a boring double standard hm more i think about it Akatsuki reminds me of Fukuyama except hes not badass just an ass.

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Akatsuki does it for lolz, he doesn't mean to harm girls. Its not like they loose their virginity when he steal their underwear. (Haruka flashed her *forest* several times on Akatsuki, did you see him even once glance at it? No at best he just pointed out that she should probably cover her nether regions.)
On the other hand this dude is clearly trying to get some pussy.
If you don't see difference between those 2 guys then ...

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-09-01, 21:45

Xaturas i see the difference but it the end he's going to be crushed by akatsuki so it doesnt matter

sapper · 2012-09-01, 21:56

i think akatsuki just does they whole panty stealing for laughs lol ;p

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-09-01, 22:17

i agree he does it for fun cause since he cant fight anybody strong he needs to amuse himself

AmeNoJaku · 2012-09-01, 22:55

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Originally Posted by AzureWrath

Why all the hate on Phil? I don't think he is a horrible antagonist or person. You can see he is just coldly logical and driven by his objective. I find villains like that much more refreshing than the manically evil kind.

Judging him as a character, well he just appeared, and his backstory hasn't yet been presented.

But he isn't all that different from Akatsuki, minus the missing motivation and presentation of one as the hero and the other the villain. Bottomline is that they behave the same way.

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

funny how the attempted rape cuz its another character is ignored Akatsuki seemed like he woulda raped class rep in episode 3 and strip her one peice naked in the beach episode tsk tsk such a boring double standard hm more i think about it Akatsuki reminds me of Fukuyama except hes not badass just an ass.

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Originally Posted by Xaturas

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Akatsuki does it for lolz, he doesn't mean to harm girls. Its not like they loose their virginity when he steal their underwear. (Haruka flashed her *forest* several times on Akatsuki, did you see him even once glance at it? No at best he just pointed out that she should probably cover her nether regions.)
On the other hand this dude is clearly trying to get some pussy.
If you don't see difference between those 2 guys then ...

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Originally Posted by sapper

i think akatsuki just does they whole panty stealing for laughs lol ;p

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Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

i agree he does it for fun cause since he cant fight anybody strong he needs to amuse himself

We perceive (as the audience) what Akatsuki does as funny, because of the way it is presented, I doubt that anyone would find it funny to be stripped naked in public.

sapper · 2012-09-01, 23:23

^^^ why u gotta be a troll? -_-

AmeNoJaku · 2012-09-01, 23:45

^^^ You're joking, right?

Dark Wing · 2012-09-01, 23:47

I know the DVD/BD sells haven't been that great but man I really hope this series gets a second season this is just to awesome to be left alone!

thundrakkon · 2012-09-01, 23:58

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Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

We perceive (as the audience) what Akatsuki does as funny, because of the way it is presented, I doubt that anyone would find it funny to be stripped naked in public.

As with most entertainment, it is fun to watch. There are some live action movies that have done that as well, and it is for the laughs. For example, Zapped! Of course, in reality, it would still be funny to see someone get stripped in a fun way, but of course it is never fun being the victim. I doubt Haruka felt it was funny either. But we aren't meant to look at it from her perspective.

justinstrife · 2012-09-02, 00:22

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Originally Posted by AmeNoJaku

Judging him as a character, well he just appeared, and his backstory hasn't yet been presented.

But he isn't all that different from Akatsuki, minus the missing motivation and presentation of one as the hero and the other the villain. Bottomline is that they behave the same way.

We perceive (as the audience) what Akatsuki does as funny, because of the way it is presented, I doubt that anyone would find it funny to be stripped naked in public.

You have got to be trolling.

Even with all the things Akatsuki does, he still ends up having all of the girls either fall for him, or end up as his side. He's never hurt any of them physically, or threatened them in an evil way. Perverted way yes, but not evil way.

He and Phil aren't even in the same solar system...

Dengar · 2012-09-02, 05:12

It's hard NOT to want to defend Akatsuki.

And really, he hasn't brought any harm to anyone other than plain embarassment, which isn't fun for the victim, I'll admit, but it doesn't really do any damage.

This Phil guy is just sick in every way imaginable.

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-09-02, 05:38

che who cares its kinda a shame how this discussion lives or dies on 3 things. Akatsuki and his antics. haruka's nature and how much fanservice there is.

usspaul · 2012-09-02, 08:04

i dunno about you guys but i really think the whole idea of tring to ge mui back to alezard just to publicly kill her is pretty sick and twisted and would cause more problems in the long run and shows how nasty those people really are. im sure that even if they manage to lure in most of muis clan in to kill them their would be other demon clans that will surface and cause an all out war. i mean cmon the girl hasnt done anything aside from being the daughter of a demon lord and now they want to excute her. thats just wrong. like mui pointed out to the learder who sent that phil guy doesnt care to try and make people all he wants to do is elimate them whick makes them no better then the demon king( going on the fact we really dont know much about him but assuming he wanted to kill all of the alzard people)

ImperialFlameGod8190 · 2012-09-02, 09:32

which is why phil is fine he's following the orders of the bastard king

evil|plushie · 2012-09-02, 09:53

Because the bastard king told him to try and rape Miu right? -_-

2012-09-01, 19:07	Link #722
sapper 私はお尻を食べる Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hell	fuck that phil dude he made miu cry...KILL HIM AKATSUKI! ;p overall this eps was a bunch of talk to get people pumped for the fight...awsomesauce lol ;p __________________

2012-09-01, 19:11	Link #723
AzureWrath Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	There is probably something more to see here between Akatsuki and Phil. I'm thinking Phil went to obtain Myuu both because of an order to do so and because he wants to prove himself against Akatsuki. This will probably be more clear next episode, but I can't see them passing by this old trope. For you guys saying he is hurting bystanders....well he spared both of Myuu's friends and the redheaded guy (even gave clear warnings to that redheaded guy!). He made it known that he just came to this world to retrieve (an alive) Myuu and only threatened Myuu when she was thinking of killing herself. There is clear logic in his actions. The attempted rape is probably the worst thing he did. The best I can do with this to cover for Phil is that he was trying to break down Myuu so that she would obey him and just come along with him. It is hard to pass that by, but Akatsuki isn't the poster child in these kind of matters either. He also subconsciously raped Myuu himself and constantly assaults the women around him. The best I can do with this to cover for Phil is that he was trying to break down Myuu so that she would obey him and just come along with him. __________________

2012-09-01, 20:08	Link #724
evil\|plushie The Last Frontier Join Date: Apr 2004	Phil is just horribly horribly narrow-minded. He has no idea what he's getting into but he doesn't care because all he has is his own sinister goal in mind. __________________ God is on the side with the biggest cannon. http://sining83.blogspot.com

2012-09-01, 21:56	Link #728
sapper 私はお尻を食べる Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hell	i think akatsuki just does they whole panty stealing for laughs lol ;p __________________

2012-09-01, 23:23	Link #731
sapper 私はお尻を食べる Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Hell	^^^ why u gotta be a troll? -_- __________________

2012-09-01, 21:06	Link #725
ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	funny how the attempted rape cuz its another character is ignored Akatsuki seemed like he woulda raped class rep in episode 3 and strip her one peice naked in the beach episode tsk tsk such a boring double standard hm more i think about it Akatsuki reminds me of Fukuyama except hes not badass just an ass.

2012-09-01, 21:45	Link #727
ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	Xaturas i see the difference but it the end he's going to be crushed by akatsuki so it doesnt matter

2012-09-01, 22:17	Link #729
ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	i agree he does it for fun cause since he cant fight anybody strong he needs to amuse himself

2012-09-01, 23:45	Link #732
AmeNoJaku Franco's Phalanx is next! Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Little England, Europe and Asia	^^^ You're joking, right?

2012-09-01, 23:47	Link #733
Dark Wing Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Age: 38	I know the DVD/BD sells haven't been that great but man I really hope this series gets a second season this is just to awesome to be left alone! __________________

2012-09-02, 05:12	Link #736
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	It's hard NOT to want to defend Akatsuki. And really, he hasn't brought any harm to anyone other than plain embarassment, which isn't fun for the victim, I'll admit, but it doesn't really do any damage. This Phil guy is just sick in every way imaginable.

2012-09-02, 05:38	Link #737
ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	che who cares its kinda a shame how this discussion lives or dies on 3 things. Akatsuki and his antics. haruka's nature and how much fanservice there is.

2012-09-02, 08:04	Link #738
usspaul Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: hell	i dunno about you guys but i really think the whole idea of tring to ge mui back to alezard just to publicly kill her is pretty sick and twisted and would cause more problems in the long run and shows how nasty those people really are. im sure that even if they manage to lure in most of muis clan in to kill them their would be other demon clans that will surface and cause an all out war. i mean cmon the girl hasnt done anything aside from being the daughter of a demon lord and now they want to excute her. thats just wrong. like mui pointed out to the learder who sent that phil guy doesnt care to try and make people all he wants to do is elimate them whick makes them no better then the demon king( going on the fact we really dont know much about him but assuming he wanted to kill all of the alzard people)

2012-09-02, 09:32	Link #739
ImperialFlameGod8190 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	which is why phil is fine he's following the orders of the bastard king

2012-09-02, 09:53	Link #740
evil\|plushie The Last Frontier Join Date: Apr 2004	Because the bastard king told him to try and rape Miu right? -_- __________________ God is on the side with the biggest cannon. http://sining83.blogspot.com