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Yamada II · 2017-03-25, 15:32

Finale

That was kinda sad. Koutaro did all that shit but ended up having to kill Kagari anyway. Feeling sorry for poor Koutaro. He lost his family, his friends, he betrayed his comrades, he killed his mentor, but ended up killing the one person he didn't want to. Though he did save the planet, but not in the way he wanted to. Poor guy. He still gets Kagari on the moon, but that's not what he really wanted. And after he gets summoned. Damn he looks cool. Lol he becomes a familiar with a mind of its own.

I liked this season. The prequel was good too, but this felt better. The part on the moon made little sense, but the following part was cool, especially since we got a badass sonuvabitch Koutaro. The strongest parts were where Koutaro was being mean to Kotori after she became a druid. What Koutaro did went beyond mean. It was cruel. She was a little girl who lost her family. Not everyone is as strong as Yasmin to bear through this harshness, yet Koutaro was being so cruel to her. Those emotions, man. Really felt sorry for Kotori. But Koutaro was doing it to keep her away from all this shit to keep her safe. If he really hated her then he wouldn't have told Touka about her. I liked those choices thing they showed where Koutaro chose from a number of options regarding his next step. Those were cool.

Overall, pretty cool stuff here. Liked the second half 8in particular.

Blueknight78 · 2017-03-25, 16:56

ok getting ready for peoples dislike my opnion and maybe rant over it but whatever.

ok basically koutaro ended really being a lolicon and what is funny he saying to kotori to be carefull with lolicons while himself being one and he ended with the moon kagari while the arth kagari died and what really happened at that tree top he killed the bitch???? who killed all that guys??? what happened, again a very confuse end here for a very confuse season.

ok overal last episode was a 6.5 /10, while i liked it most, this episde and the previous one, the overal serie really was bad, really bad.

overal poor development for characters, very confuse plot, very bad pace, really feel rushed a lot, flashbacks poor derived, main character weird developments and many others troubles.

while i loved the first season and was hyped for the second all the hype died during the season with all the terrible pace and the fact which in order to understand what is happened was need a lot of explanations from others peoples due to anime really poor explannation and maybe hope which everyone watching the anime already had played the game which is really bad, while some anime only watchers could understand what was happening not everyone could and it's a big narration problem.

this episode with the 11 if had come more earlly or at last character development where proper developed things could get better, i feel this anime could be better if it was a 24 episodes or 36 to have better development.

another problem was all the others characters which basically in first season become important in second they become just "nothing", all of this was about koutaro and everyone else become just a background characters with little to none importance to plot development and just "tools" for koutaro and the plot, specially the main girls even kagari become just a background character while we are forced to deal with one of the worst mc ever.

and here koutaro the guy which big issues of "personality or maybe a bipolar character which sometimes is a emo, another a cry baby then a genocide murder which keep changing personality in a "speed of light" with almost 0 proper development or transition he just "wake up" and now i'm a badass murder kille after previous day being a emo cry baby coward.

for this episode 6.5 /10
for the season overal 3/10 just for the "poor background characters" which where much better than the crap mc and that bad plot, if really the game is like that i probably never could go play it, games like that much confuse and bad plot and character development are not my cup of cake for me little burst from that team was much better than this anime, it really turned out in a bad disappointment.

Master_Yoma · 2017-03-25, 21:29

Well this whole season felt so rushed and then theres Kotarou change just so much so fast

6/10

serenade_beta · 2017-03-26, 00:24

Spoiler for final thoughts:

Pen3 · 2017-03-26, 01:33

Not enough of best girl Akane.

VTHokiePride · 2017-03-26, 19:15

Glad they added some humor at the end with the girls' reaction to Kotarou and Kagari being reunited.

ronelm2000 · 2017-03-27, 19:56

While I think they at least made this Season 2 some kind of justice (so much skipped parts all through the end), but in essence, this feels like an advertisement to the game.

... Yeah I hope we get a reboot 5 years down the line.

DragoonKain3 · 2017-03-27, 21:10

And yep, I knew it, S1 ED was telling the actual end after all. Kotarou became the tree, although I don't know how Chihaya is included in this since she was absent in Terra? Which reminds me, there's some huge imbalance with the heroines in Terra. Like sure Kagari has the most (her route) and Kotori is not far behind (her druid), while Akane still gets a decent amount (Sakura's replacement). But the Guardian Girls are in just one scene, while Chihaya is non-existent lol.

Looking at it, it seems Kagari/Kotori/Akane are written by Tanaka, and him writing Terra as well, maybe that accounts the screentime discrepancies?

Poor Jasmine though. All alone in an ice age world. What happeened to the other kids? Maybe they're still surviving with her, but the anime had to cut it out due to budget.

Dafaq was Kagari doing in the moon though? I thought Moon Kagari sacrificed herself to give them one more chance, so it can't be her. So it must be Terra Kagari, but why was she in the moon in the first place? Logic states that 'liquified people' go to the moon (and it was shown she was 'liquified'), but Kagari isn't a 'person'; she's supposed to be the embodiment of the EARTH's immune system. She should return to Earth.

Now I have to reach by thinking that the Moon is just a splinter of Earth, so they're pretty much one and the same, so Kagari being there shouldn't be a surprise. Even then though, it doesn't explain why she manifests on the moon, and that Kotarou had to go all the way there to be reunited with her. So yeah, so many questions even in the end, which is quite sad.

Man, just needed 1 more episode to further develop Kagari/Kotarou's Terra relationship, and 1 more episode to expand the climax, and that would have addressed my concerns with this show. Such a shame that the first season had 13 episodes, while this had only 11. Or maybe this only had 11 because the first seasons didn't do too well? Little Busters easily did 10k, while this one didn't even break 2k. Might have put a big downer on the budget; such a shame really, since S1 IMO was great while they dropped the bomb here, and a couple of episodes would have made a world of difference.

That said, it was entertaining at least. The Tanaka heroines at the very least I truly enjoyed, while I was just kinda meh with Lucia/Chihaya/Shizuru. Kagari was amusing with her obsession with feecof, Akane was the driver most of S1 (shame her personality here was pretty much Moon Kagari 2.0), while Kotori was the most dynamic since the Kotori/Kotarou relationship here is NOWHERE near what they had in S1. So if the anime got anything right, at least it was with those three.

Overall, S1 is a solid A, while S2 by itself is a C. S1 had great pacing from beginning to end and I actually adored the story despite the SoL focus. S2 on the other hand had the most interesting things happen in it, but the pedal-to-the-metal speed left some parts empty while other parts hanging. For a finale, that's some big deductions in my book, though as I said before, the series didn't need much more for it to be great. Oh well, can't win everything.

Julio C · 2017-03-29, 02:35

Wow, that was actually a good finale. I didn't think I will pick up Season 2 after that horrible first season, but I'm glad I gave the show another chance. I think S2 pull a 180 over S1, and it was for the better. It was a good season overall. I enjoyed it especially the Akane scenes, damm best girl.

tsunade666 · 2017-03-29, 04:08

I haven't watched the rest yet. not much a fan of terra and for me. it ended in moon but just to be clear. there are two kagari. moon and terra. just think of her as avatar of the planet's. or celestial bodies that embodies the miracle of aurora. I haven't watched the anime so I can't be sure but if your thinking of the small bud of flower in the moon then that is what was left of moon kagari, after sacrificing herself to have earth one more chance for salvation.

Julio C · 2017-03-29, 11:56

Don't both Kagari share their memories together? This show is confusing as hell, so I don't really know what the hell I just watch this past two seasons.

Benigmatica · 2017-04-20, 03:58

Managed to watched the ending and I thought that Sakura Kashima will hear Koutarou Tennouji that hating humanity is wrong.... But alas, she died which missed that opportunity.

Lastly, glad that both Koutarou and Kagari reunited again even though she was killed by Tennouji at the climax of the story. As for the rest though, looks like both humanity and Earth are saved, but it appears that civilization was reverted to the stone age.

Gotta say that the second half is better than the first one.

2017-03-25, 16:56	Link #122
Blueknight78 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	ok getting ready for peoples dislike my opnion and maybe rant over it but whatever. ok basically koutaro ended really being a lolicon and what is funny he saying to kotori to be carefull with lolicons while himself being one and he ended with the moon kagari while the arth kagari died and what really happened at that tree top he killed the bitch???? who killed all that guys??? what happened, again a very confuse end here for a very confuse season. ok overal last episode was a 6.5 /10, while i liked it most, this episde and the previous one, the overal serie really was bad, really bad. overal poor development for characters, very confuse plot, very bad pace, really feel rushed a lot, flashbacks poor derived, main character weird developments and many others troubles. while i loved the first season and was hyped for the second all the hype died during the season with all the terrible pace and the fact which in order to understand what is happened was need a lot of explanations from others peoples due to anime really poor explannation and maybe hope which everyone watching the anime already had played the game which is really bad, while some anime only watchers could understand what was happening not everyone could and it's a big narration problem. this episode with the 11 if had come more earlly or at last character development where proper developed things could get better, i feel this anime could be better if it was a 24 episodes or 36 to have better development. another problem was all the others characters which basically in first season become important in second they become just "nothing", all of this was about koutaro and everyone else become just a background characters with little to none importance to plot development and just "tools" for koutaro and the plot, specially the main girls even kagari become just a background character while we are forced to deal with one of the worst mc ever. and here koutaro the guy which big issues of "personality or maybe a bipolar character which sometimes is a emo, another a cry baby then a genocide murder which keep changing personality in a "speed of light" with almost 0 proper development or transition he just "wake up" and now i'm a badass murder kille after previous day being a emo cry baby coward. for this episode 6.5 /10 for the season overal 3/10 just for the "poor background characters" which where much better than the crap mc and that bad plot, if really the game is like that i probably never could go play it, games like that much confuse and bad plot and character development are not my cup of cake for me little burst from that team was much better than this anime, it really turned out in a bad disappointment. __________________

2017-03-25, 21:29	Link #123
Master_Yoma Nekokota Festival Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lost in the Fairy Forest	Well this whole season felt so rushed and then theres Kotarou change just so much so fast 6/10 __________________

2017-03-26, 00:24	Link #124
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for final thoughts: 7/10 The biggest problem... I think, was the lack of episodes. Or perhaps the usage of the episodes they had. Because a whole lot seemed to have been crammed into the 2nd season. Once the 2nd season got to the final arc, the tempo actually wasn't that bad... until the last episode, and everything was going at mach speed again. That was probably the fastest it ever went, cause Kotarou clearly teleported between scenes a few times. Another problem was that most viewers probably disappeared thanks to 1. The first season ending the way it did 2. Starting the 2nd season doing some mystical meta story that wasn't exactly easy to understand Once everything started playing out and the (anime) viewers realized what was going on, I think most of the audience was already gone. So all in all, the 2nd half of the anime was interesting. But that just means that 3/4 of the anime wasn't exactly praise-worthy. And it still ended with a rushed last episode, so it got interesting in the last 1/4 of the anime and still tripped up in the end. I get the general idea though, so... sure. I'll give the anime points for at least giving the general outline of the story, so no one has to go and play the game to understand what mainly happens. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2017-03-26, 19:15	Link #126
VTHokiePride Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Washington DC Age: 29	Glad they added some humor at the end with the girls' reaction to Kotarou and Kagari being reunited. __________________

2017-03-27, 21:10	Link #128
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	And yep, I knew it, S1 ED was telling the actual end after all. Kotarou became the tree, although I don't know how Chihaya is included in this since she was absent in Terra? Which reminds me, there's some huge imbalance with the heroines in Terra. Like sure Kagari has the most (her route) and Kotori is not far behind (her druid), while Akane still gets a decent amount (Sakura's replacement). But the Guardian Girls are in just one scene, while Chihaya is non-existent lol. Looking at it, it seems Kagari/Kotori/Akane are written by Tanaka, and him writing Terra as well, maybe that accounts the screentime discrepancies? Poor Jasmine though. All alone in an ice age world. What happeened to the other kids? Maybe they're still surviving with her, but the anime had to cut it out due to budget. Dafaq was Kagari doing in the moon though? I thought Moon Kagari sacrificed herself to give them one more chance, so it can't be her. So it must be Terra Kagari, but why was she in the moon in the first place? Logic states that 'liquified people' go to the moon (and it was shown she was 'liquified'), but Kagari isn't a 'person'; she's supposed to be the embodiment of the EARTH's immune system. She should return to Earth. Now I have to reach by thinking that the Moon is just a splinter of Earth, so they're pretty much one and the same, so Kagari being there shouldn't be a surprise. Even then though, it doesn't explain why she manifests on the moon, and that Kotarou had to go all the way there to be reunited with her. So yeah, so many questions even in the end, which is quite sad. Man, just needed 1 more episode to further develop Kagari/Kotarou's Terra relationship, and 1 more episode to expand the climax, and that would have addressed my concerns with this show. Such a shame that the first season had 13 episodes, while this had only 11. Or maybe this only had 11 because the first seasons didn't do too well? Little Busters easily did 10k, while this one didn't even break 2k. Might have put a big downer on the budget; such a shame really, since S1 IMO was great while they dropped the bomb here, and a couple of episodes would have made a world of difference. That said, it was entertaining at least. The Tanaka heroines at the very least I truly enjoyed, while I was just kinda meh with Lucia/Chihaya/Shizuru. Kagari was amusing with her obsession with feecof, Akane was the driver most of S1 (shame her personality here was pretty much Moon Kagari 2.0), while Kotori was the most dynamic since the Kotori/Kotarou relationship here is NOWHERE near what they had in S1. So if the anime got anything right, at least it was with those three. Overall, S1 is a solid A, while S2 by itself is a C. S1 had great pacing from beginning to end and I actually adored the story despite the SoL focus. S2 on the other hand had the most interesting things happen in it, but the pedal-to-the-metal speed left some parts empty while other parts hanging. For a finale, that's some big deductions in my book, though as I said before, the series didn't need much more for it to be great. Oh well, can't win everything. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2017-03-25, 15:32	Link #121
Yamada II Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Pakistan Age: 28	Finale That was kinda sad. Koutaro did all that shit but ended up having to kill Kagari anyway. Feeling sorry for poor Koutaro. He lost his family, his friends, he betrayed his comrades, he killed his mentor, but ended up killing the one person he didn't want to. Though he did save the planet, but not in the way he wanted to. Poor guy. He still gets Kagari on the moon, but that's not what he really wanted. And after he gets summoned. Damn he looks cool. Lol he becomes a familiar with a mind of its own. I liked this season. The prequel was good too, but this felt better. The part on the moon made little sense, but the following part was cool, especially since we got a badass sonuvabitch Koutaro. The strongest parts were where Koutaro was being mean to Kotori after she became a druid. What Koutaro did went beyond mean. It was cruel. She was a little girl who lost her family. Not everyone is as strong as Yasmin to bear through this harshness, yet Koutaro was being so cruel to her. Those emotions, man. Really felt sorry for Kotori. But Koutaro was doing it to keep her away from all this shit to keep her safe. If he really hated her then he wouldn't have told Touka about her. I liked those choices thing they showed where Koutaro chose from a number of options regarding his next step. Those were cool. Overall, pretty cool stuff here. Liked the second half 8in particular.

2017-03-26, 01:33	Link #125
Pen3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Not enough of best girl Akane.

2017-03-29, 02:35	Link #129
Julio C Bury My Shell Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Santa Barbara	Wow, that was actually a good finale. I didn't think I will pick up Season 2 after that horrible first season, but I'm glad I gave the show another chance. I think S2 pull a 180 over S1, and it was for the better. It was a good season overall. I enjoyed it especially the Akane scenes, damm best girl.

2017-03-29, 04:08	Link #130
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I haven't watched the rest yet. not much a fan of terra and for me. it ended in moon but just to be clear. there are two kagari. moon and terra. just think of her as avatar of the planet's. or celestial bodies that embodies the miracle of aurora. I haven't watched the anime so I can't be sure but if your thinking of the small bud of flower in the moon then that is what was left of moon kagari, after sacrificing herself to have earth one more chance for salvation. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2017-03-29, 11:56	Link #131
Julio C Bury My Shell Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Santa Barbara	Don't both Kagari share their memories together? This show is confusing as hell, so I don't really know what the hell I just watch this past two seasons.

2017-04-20, 03:58	Link #132
Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	Managed to watched the ending and I thought that Sakura Kashima will hear Koutarou Tennouji that hating humanity is wrong.... But alas, she died which missed that opportunity. Lastly, glad that both Koutarou and Kagari reunited again even though she was killed by Tennouji at the climax of the story. As for the rest though, looks like both humanity and Earth are saved, but it appears that civilization was reverted to the stone age. Gotta say that the second half is better than the first one.