2010-10-17, 19:09
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In any case, the 49ers have been awful due to poor management up top from the Yorks. It's that simple. They don't know how to build a championship team in the NFL and aren't willing to spend the big bucks to get a real coach in here who knows how to get things done. Instead they'll hire a person with no experience as a head coach such as Mike Nolan, or worse, they'll take the cheaper road and hire someone who was a position coach and just promote them to head coach. It's the management. That is it. Yeah I'm sure Eddie Debartolo's checkered pass really effected Joe Montana's decision making in the pocket...or convinced Bill Walsh that Jerry Rice was actually a better player than rated...or give hint that Steve Young was really a HOF quarterback in the making...or tipped off Brent Jones being more than the player he was when he was cut from the Steelers. It's not like players didn't want to be in San Francisco or anything. No, that couldn't be the case. You might as well take away Bill Belicheck's Super Bowl trophies because he was caught for "cheating". Your argument is so ridiculous that it's strawman. It would have been better for you to take the high road and just admit that New Orleans was garbage back in the 80's and 90's. Meanwhile in New Orleans Jim Mora didn't make any excuses. He wasn't afraid to tell the press that his team was garbage and that a team like San Francisco didn't make excuses...they just came in and got things done. Quote:
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2010-10-17, 19:30
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And yeah the Saints were weak, but in the late 80's - Early 90's we had the best defenses in the NFL...Roger Craig and Joe Cool said the Saints defenses were the greatest challenge to their dynasty...Morso than any team they played in the playoffs including Superbowl...Our offense wasn't that good, which is why we couldn't contend, but post-90's it would have helped if San Fran didn't fill the field with ringers (LOL Ricky F*king Jackson, Lawd my Gawd)... Additionally, if Debartolo wasn't such a cheat, he wouldn't have had to give the team ownership to his sister, and the Yorks would have never gotten ownership...So LIKE I SAID (Which can't be refuted), you guys mortgaged the future to win your Superbowls...So enjoy the prison-fence butthurt of your current 49ners team...The result of all the under the table bull$hit your organization pulled during the end of it's championship prime... They just beat Oakland today, Hooray!! Break up the niners!!! Now that's strawman!
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2010-10-17, 20:01
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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1. Oklahoma 2. Oregon 3. Boise State 4. Auburn 5. TCU 6. LSU 7. Alabama 8. Michigan State 9. Utah 10. Ohio State 11. Missouri 12. Stanford 13. Wisconsin 14. Oklahoma State 15. Iowa 16. Nebraska 17. Florida State 18. Arizona 19. Texas 20. West Virginia 21. South Carolina 22. Kansas State 23. Arkansas 24. Mississippi State 25. Virginia Tech |
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2010-10-17, 20:47
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Your arguments are so pathetic that you can't admit that the 49ers were actually just a better team than New Orleans. The Saints defense was good in the 80's with the Dome Patrol...but that was about it...unless you count Eric Martin on offense. New Orleans just couldn't compete with the top dawgs. And if you think about it, a lot of San Francisco's key players acquired like Brent Jones, Charles Haley, John Taylor, Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Jerry Rice were always rated worse at the time they were drafted or about to enter the NFL. Bill Walsh and company just made them better. You can't seriously believe that Eddie DeBartolo and your criticism of him had anything to do with the players acquired actually being really good. Bill Walsh was just a genius. Simple as that. There is a reason why so many players had good careers. And it had nothing to do with any sort of red tape. It was because they were actually good players in the first place. The 49ers actually had one of the lowest pay rolls during their first Super Bowl. I'm not certain about the others, but it would make sense seeing as how there was no free agency and that players liked playing here in San Francisco in the years following...which meant that the payroll probably rose higher. Not to mention the team was good. What is funny is that no one ever talks about this. More talk is directed as to how Debartolo was a good owner. But I could see how a Saints fan would cry foul. Like I said earlier, if you're going to complain about something like this, you might as well say Bill Belichick doesn't deserve his Super Bowl rings because of the little "scandal" that occurred. It's "trivial" at best. The only thing that really comes up in negative light for Eddie is the boating scandal in the late 90's...which by that time the team had already entered salary cap hell. But go ahead an ignore every point I've made thus far...again. Funny, Jim Mora never made excuses like these and still doesn't to this day. He knew that San Francisco was just a better team plain and simple.
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2010-10-17, 21:25
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^So pissed off right now...I just owned you so hard and hit the BACK BUTTON by mistake and lost my entire post
 ...SO mad right now...God I owned you, it was sooo goood too...I wanna punch something...I almost feel like a current niners fan I'm so pi$$ed...God just smiled on you friend...Take it to the internet bank...
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2010-10-17, 21:36
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2010-10-20, 15:36
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Mama there goes that man!
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As for Joe, he's still a young QB but he's better than the previous QBs. And while the D did play well, they weren't exactly great down the stretch.
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2010-10-20, 21:19
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As a Patriots fan, I thought we were substantially outplayed for the first three quarters by the Ravens. The Pats were lucky to get that win, and an important one it was since they'd already had their bye. I wouldn't be surprised to see the opposite outcome were these teams to meet again in the playoffs.
I watched this game with a few local friends, all of whom are Patriots fans. Regardless, we all like Flacco, though obviously not quite so much as we love our hirsute QB with the supermodel wife.  Apparently Giselle's days are numbered, though, if she's not already "yesterday's papers." Quote:
Flacco's dangerous on the loose. As you say, Flo, he seemed locked down by the play-calling late in the game. I wonder why?
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2010-10-21, 01:57
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Favre's playing streak continues and the Vikings salvage their season. Cowboys are definitely the floppers of the season, although the Chargers aren't far behind.
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2010-10-21, 02:22
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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They have a case with the Merriweather hit and the Harrison hit on Cribbs, but from their point of view, the Dunta Robinson hit would have been suspendable as well. I don't agree with that. It looked like a hard hit that became helmet-to-helmet after contact with the shoulder pad. Robinson could have used better form and if you want to throw a penalty, fine, but don't suspend him for that. Most receivers when they catch the ball instinctively duck there head into the hit, that would cause problems as well. I don't what the proper way to handle it is, because defenseless receivers getting hurt is a problem, but I see no other way to disconnect a receiver from the ball when he has the catch and is in mid-air other than to hit him hard. What is Robinson supposed to do there? Let him go? Last edited by Dilla; 2010-10-21 at 02:51. |
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2010-10-21, 12:57
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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The bottomline is this…Like it or not the NFL has become the most dominate “Television Show” in America…Nothing, virtually nothing can compete with NFL Football (Especially since the commercial application of HDTV)…What we’re seeing now is the NFL acting as the FCC ( instead of a sports league.) The NFL has seen ridiculous increases in female viewership over the last few years, and that annoying (Seemingly never gonna end) month of pink garments for Women’s Cancer Month is evident of that (Don’t hate me for that, I just think it should be one week as opposed to a full month of men in pink). Casual Mothers who watch these games with their sons don’t want to be turned off by overly-excessive violence and the NFL knows that (How many Mom's are gonna ban their sons from football just based on the Merriweather or Robinson hit?)...
The NFL shapes the way football is played from Pee-Wee all the way up…In today’s more hyper-sensitive twitter-shitter TMZ sports society it’s more evident than ever that ignoring this aspect of the profession that could serve to tamper it’s overall image will not be tolerated… Another factor is that science, once brushed-aside in terms of the NFL’s image, is a viable weapon that the NFL must protect itself against…The medical findings on concussions and just overall hits to the head area is ultra-prevalent right now…If God-forbid a player died (Which had happened in college and High School Football more recently) or was subject to some horrifying head trama based on a “Jacked –up” hit the NFL wants it’s liability to be clearly viewed thru the prism of it’s effort to “clean this $hit up”… Do I like it? Not really…I’m an old school football guy by heart…I grew up sneaking downstairs on Sunday Nights and watching NFL Films way past my bed-time…Seeing the true warriors play the game with grit and guts, but at the same token I’m not some guy who watches the game to see horrific injury just for the visual quality of that..The Dunta Robinson hit was less of an “Ooooou $hit!!!” than it was an “Ooooh shit.” SO yeah, I understand the NFL’s position right now even if I don’t like it much… Players are pi$$ed right now as they should be, but they’ll adapt…There’s still gonna be big hits and WoW-Shots, that’s never going away…But just like hits to the QB, illegal crackbacks, and chop-blocks got grimaces at first, this effort to take some of the more vicious hits out of the game will be a back-issue after a few more seasons…As for the rest, get used to it, cause the NFL is a TV show now and it ain’t going back…
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Ever since that I hated his a$$, so screw him and his $hitty Hall of Fame speech that he couldn't even read right when he wrote that $hit...
Fly since ↔...
