Character Discussion - Kallen

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Var

I meant taking governorship of Area 11. He can easily get access to Kallen if he needed too, as he seems to have a substantial amount of power/say unlike the other KoR.

Well the governor of Area 11 does have jurisdiction over the Black Knights. It would be easier to ensure that Kallen survives if he was governor rather then an outsider acting on his own authority.

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by yezhanquan

Probably explains why Kallen is so damn good at piloting herself.

Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?

[Var]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

Well the governor of Area 11 does have jurisdiction over the Black Knights. It would be easier to ensure that Kallen survives if he was governor rather then an outsider acting on his own authority.

The way Kallen's existance has been presented, I've gained the feeling that her father did everything to 'erase' her other blood-line from the records. Not to mention that having dual identities within the same area is far more difficult than having them on two seperate continents.

So while it would seem logical from a normal standpoint, I don't think he'd be able to given his attempt to hide his daughter.

Originally Posted by Orga777

Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?

I really wouldn't call this deep thought. This is tossing around simple, harmless ideas.

As for inheritance, not all people inherit skills from their parents, while others 'appear' to inherit abilities or likings for certain things from their parents. Hence 'like father like son'.

[yezhanquan]

Ok, I should have said, "A coincidence that Kallen is such a good pilot."

Yes, the speculation is wild, but logically, I am pretty convinced. May not be true in the end.

[Silver Soul]

Originally Posted by Var

Suzaku has been explained to have gained supernatural abilities... so your counter argument failed.

So has Kallen's father being the KOO since it doesn't even seem to make sense to begin with, it's like you made Gino's comment in episode 6 go out of control

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?

Wasn't Charles himself also a great pilot? He was a knight with Marianne right? So if that is true then Lelouch should be some piloting prodigy.

[Var]

Originally Posted by Silver Soul

So has Kallen's father being the KOO since it doesn't even seem to make sense to begin with, it's like you made Gino's comment in episode 6 go out of control

Wait, what? Could you reword that as a more coherent sentece?

[yezhanquan]

Originally Posted by Silver Soul

So has Kallen's father being the KOO since it doesn't even seem to make sense to begin with, it's like you made Gino's comment in episode 6 go out of control

Doesn't make sense to the heart, but logically, it can work. Of course, the whole conspiracy theory part comes out, but that seems to suit the KoO pretty well.

[Silver Soul]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Right, except that is flawed. Here is why. Lelouch is a terrible pilot and his mother was considered an amazing pilot. Just because you have a parent that is good at something doesn't make the child just as good. So that has nothing to do with anything.

I still think you guys are stretching things way too far and are thinking way too deeply into something that will probably be simple. Didn't everyone get cut down to size when all that speculation on Kallen's capture turned out to be a most simple thing that hardly anybody thought of?

Thank you, that's what I was trying to get at, also Charles being a good pilot, I'll see it to believe it

Originally Posted by Var

Wait, what? Could you reword that as a more coherent sentece?

Gino said something in episode 6 that commented Kallen on her piloting skills being at the level of a KOR

[Var]

Originally Posted by Silver Soul

Gino said something in episode 6 that commented Kallen on her piloting skills being at the level of a KOR

That's not really where I'm getting my thoughts from. IIRC, it was said she mastered piloting in only two years.

Also, KoR level =/= KoO level. It is the only seat among the KoR which is actually comparibly different from the rest. Every other seat is just a number, where as KoO is actually a rank.

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Var

The way Kallen's existance has been presented, I've gained the feeling that her father did everything to 'erase' her other blood-line from the records. Not to mention that having dual identities within the same area is far more difficult than having them on two seperate continents.

So while it would seem logical from a normal standpoint, I don't think he'd be able to given his attempt to hide his daughter.

If someone was determined enough to investigate him I doubt he would be able to hide his duel identity regardless of how far he is from his family. Besides assuming he has managed to keep up his second identity of Knight of One there is no reason anyone would suspect the Emperor's own knight. Him taking Area 11 for himself could be tied to the fact that the Emperor lost four of his children in Area 11 and he is taking command to farther pacify it after the Black Rebellion or something.

I just find it hard to believe that the Empire's strongest knight and the person holding the position of Knight of One is able to keep his lineage secret when it is apparent that it is important to Britannian society for eligibility for positions of importance.

[Silver Soul]

Originally Posted by Var

That's not really where I'm getting my thoughts from. IIRC, it was said she mastered piloting in only two years.

Also, KoR level =/= KoO level. It is the only seat among the KoR which is actually comparibly different from the rest. Every other seat is just a number, where as KoO is actually a rank.

Then may I ask where the hell is it? If its because they have the same colored eyes that's just plan retarded since they have been many cases in this series where characters have the same eye color and they're not related.

[yezhanquan]

Is the KoO even known to exist by the public? Going by how Euphie was twisted, it seems pretty easy to twist the facts.

[Silver Soul]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

If someone was determined enough to investigate him I doubt he would be able to hide his duel identity regardless of how far he is from his family. Besides assuming he has managed to keep up his second identity of Knight of One there is no reason anyone would suspect the Emperor's own knight. Him taking Area 11 for himself could be tied to the fact that the Emperor lost four of his children in Area 11 and he is taking command to farther pacify it after the Black Rebellion or something.

I just find it hard to believe that the Empire's strongest knight and the person holding the position of Knight of One is able to keep his lineage secret when it is apparent that it is important to Britannian society for eligibility for positions of importance.

And this for the hundredth time we know nothing aboout Bismark to conclude that theory

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Silver Soul

And this for the hundredth time we know nothing aboout Bismark to conclude that theory

We are speaking hypothetically, it is a debate for fun.

[Silver Soul]

You know, I seriously need to calm down a bit

[demon_god04]

Originally Posted by Silver Soul

You know, I seriously need to calm down a bit

Yes you do, and for the record I was arguing against Var's theory...

[yezhanquan]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

Yes you do, and for the record I was arguing against Var's theory...

We really need more info on the guy.

[Silver Soul]

Originally Posted by demon_god04

Yes you do, and for the record I was arguing against Var's theory...

Oh.......

[Inferno Phoenyx]

I like how this is becoming a Bismark thread now.