Little Busters - Game Discussion (Little Busters & Ecstasy!)

[Linkark07]

Oh man, this game never gets old for me. All the jokes this game has are hilarious like when:
Kyousuke, Masato and Kengo try to date with a girl from the Little Busters.
Kurugaya lessons to the girls.
Also when Kyousuke admitted he was a lolicon and Rin didn't like that at all. It was priceless to see Kyousuke wallow in despair.
And when Haruchin does that move in the kick the can game.

What are the most funny parts for you guys?

[Balzac]

Remembering the mental image never fails to put a smile to my face.

Picture Masato getting a fear of cats...
One is in his and Riki's room...
No longer able to bear it, he dances "Kinniku Sensation" in the corner...
Saying, "I can't take it, it's very scary!"
The image of his friend dancing while being scared strikes Riki deeply.

Later, Kengo rubs it in his rival's face how he can stand cats.
Masato asks, "So what can I do to train myself?"
Kengo's answer is by being at the foot of a cat waterfall, billions of cats falling and striking one's back.
Rin takes it very well.

[Mahou]

- Masato's extremly liberal interpretation when someone jokes around with him, i. e. most sentences he starts with "So what you mean is, I (...)" Riki admires this skill of him, as well .
- Masato's "scream of despair" and his "battle" against Kurugaya
- Komari's epic victory against "Yui-chan" .
- Brosuke's poem ideas at the beginning of the common route were not too bad

[waffo]

Hm, I'm on Haruka's route at the last choice (following the walkthrough on the TLWiki) and it says that there are, "two different extra scenes in the bad end that can be seen by choosing "Give up"". And...I went through and didn't see any such scenes. Are these scenes that I'm not seeing supposed to be fore EX or ME only?

[Xacual]

You should get either a scene with Futaki and Kud or Kurugaya and Futaki. It depends on whether or not you've completed Kurugaya's route. Of course if you're locked out of both of their routes, meaning you've done Haruka after Kud and Kurugaya then yeah you can't see the scenes. Also the Kurugaya is the default scene after completing refrain so you'll never see the Kud scene.

Suggested Route order is something like Rin1, Komari, Kurugaya, Mio, Haruka, Kud, Rin2, Refrain. That should give you access to every scene.

[waffo]

Oh shoot. Yeah, I left Haruka for last. >_< I went Kud, Kurugaya, Rin1, Komari, Mio then Kud. Shoot, I didn't mind that I missed some scenes before but I didn't want to miss a Kud scene. Darn.

[Randrak42]

Funny parts!? Let's see if I can remember a few:

- Kyosuke's "wise man's sayings" homework;
- Any possible combination in the Test of Courage (I rather loved Kuu and Anego);
- The poem making choices are brilliant;
- The guys trying to pick up the girls (fav combo: Mio -> Komari -> Kuu);
- Masato, Kengo and Kyosuke repeatedly remembering how scary Anego is (Machine gun!);
- Anyone of Masato's misunderstandings;
- The Little Busters trying to make Kyosuke come out of the room;
- Anego teaching the girls;
- Most of the slumber party!

And many more, I love this game!

[Draneor]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Just to be sure...I'm not the only adult male to cry like a little girl when the Little Busters were saying their farewells in Refrain was I?

I cried through most of refrain. But that part, in particularly, was very moving. Same thing with Komari's parting with Rin.

Originally Posted by Linkark07

What are the most funny parts for you guys?

I loved the humor in the common route. Even on the 6th or 7th pass, I still found many of the jokes to be funny. But, in particularly, the following stood out:

Masato in general.
"Yui-chan."
The aphorisms.
Rin picking up bad habits at baseball practice.
The slumber party.
The quest for the furniture.
Rin's interactions with Sasami.
Some very inappropriate titles Kyousuke gave after wins in the battle rankings.

The beginning of Kurugaya's route was also hilarious.

[Khu]

Uguu ><

Spoiler:

What happened at the end of Kud's route? She went back to her homeland right? Why was she in chains :<

[Randrak42]

Originally Posted by Khu

Uguu ><

Spoiler:

What happened at the end of Kud's route? She went back to her homeland right? Why was she in chains :<

Spoiler for Wafuuuuu:

She went back to her homeland which was in a state of chaos. The people were blaming her mother's space project for all the bad things that were happening in the country. In the mean time a new religious cult was formed. Being with her family at the time, the cult caught up with Kuu, killed her parents and everyone else and then took her away. They chained her up in a cave by the sea to serve as a sacrifice. They believed that by sacrificing her everything would get fixed.
Lots of tear-jerking dialogue later, Riki and Kuu's...let's say love...manage to break the chains and she leaves the cave. Later Riki sees Kuu at the school gates, safe and sound (obviously heavily traumatized by the events but that is beside the point).

I hope you're asking this because you didn't even play the route because it is very nicely and easily explained along the way...

[Khu]

Spoiler:

I have the game, but I was watching a friend play through that route, and it looked so sad :< Had to find out what happened, lol :/

I guess I'll play through that route soonish, finishing up Mio's route using the suggested route guide

[Balzac]

Have to say, when I read it four years ago, that particular route of hers didn't make a lot of sense. No offense to the Kud fans. (Even considering the big picture, Kuds was the most "out there", if you know what I mean)

[Jao]

Yeah, Kud's route is just a little nonsensical no matter how eloquently you describe it.

I've read that it works in a deep and thematic way which has lots to do with her character and the problems she faces as a nationality-ly conflicted citizen, buuuuut I've never read how.

[Arturia Polaris]

I actually have a question regarding a song that never appears listed in the OST

Spoiler for SPOILERIFIC:

When The LB! boys are fighting the baseball match against each other for Riki to save Rin... There's a particular OST that never got listed. It was so frenetic and "Epic final battle" and gave a feel of insurmountable odds... It also plays during the ending of Refrain, if you know what I mean... where everything is revealed

Anyone has any idea of what that song is?

Niker

[Draneor]

Originally Posted by Balzac

Have to say, when I read it four years ago, that particular route of hers didn't make a lot of sense. No offense to the Kud fans. (Even considering the big picture, Kuds was the most "out there", if you know what I mean)

Spoiler for Wafuuuuuu:

Well, the way I see it is the dream world, as a side effect, gave everyone an opportunity to re-live the past in another way. In the real world, Kudryavka did not go to visit her mother and instead went on the field trip. Hence, the piece of the spacecraft in the box she left Riki (which was also the one she said it was OK to not open since it contained items related to her dream). Kudryavka stayed behind partly because her mother represented everything Kudryavka wanted to be but could not (and partly likely out of frustration for never really having a mother). In the dream world, despite not changing the outcome, Kudryavka goes because it's what she wishes she could have done.

I also wonder if this was why Riki made a comment about ceasing to read the news after a certain event (but i don't recall him ever remembering specifically why).

[Randrak42]

Spoiler for Wafuuuuuu:

You have to remember that this dream world created by everyone was made to accomplish two things:

- Make Riki and Rin strong enough to handle the bus crash;
- Help everyone else (namely the girls) settle unresolved issues so they could pass away without regrets.

Kud's unresolved issues were the deal with not going to visit her parents when her country was going to shit. She regretted not being of help to her parents and possibly blamed herself for their death. By going through her route and having Riki convince her to go she finds out that it WASN'T her fault that her parents were killed, it there was nothing she could have done to prevent them from dying and going there would only serve to put her in danger and get killed (since she didn't have both the connection with Riki and chain breaking magic). Thus real Kud would be able to die without regrets in the buss crash.

None of the routes happen in the real world EXCEPT for the final moments of Refrain and Anego's true ending (not counting EX which I haven't played but hear Sasami's route is set after the peaceful school trip). This is something I love, unlike other VNs, every route in LB is actually connected and actually HAPPENED, everything just goes back to the beginning until Refrain.

[Balzac]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Spoiler for Wafuuuuuu:

You have to remember that this dream world created by everyone was made to accomplish two things:

- Make Riki and Rin strong enough to handle the bus crash;
- Help everyone else (namely the girls) settle unresolved issues so they could pass away without regrets.

The second point is your assumption, this isn't like a certain other "key" work. Never was it stated implicitly or explicitly, that the... wait, let me just spoiler this to be safe:

Spoiler for everything:

Never was it stated that the world was created to help the girls, nor aid them in "moving on" peacefully with the afterlife. It was purely only to reform Riki and Rin. In fact, if you don't mind mild Kanata spoilers:

Spoiler for Kanata's route:

It was stated by Haruka how she and the others were only able to fully realize their own issues when Riki chose to pursue them. The world wasn't built to support them, heck I don't think they're remotely aware of what Kyousuke's overall gameplan. They do have a vague understanding of the world when it comes to their own route. (see: Kurugaya)

Going back to Kudo, it was only stated in the epilogue how the issue was resolved, but not as to its specifics. (I don't remember her parents dying, but will have to recheck when next I reinstall the game)

[Draneor]

Originally Posted by Balzac

The second point is your assumption, this isn't like a certain other "key" work. Never was it stated implicitly or explicitly, that the... wait, let me just spoiler this to be safe:

Spoiler for everything:

Going back to Kudo, it was only stated in the epilogue how the issue was resolved, but not as to its specifics. (I don't remember her parents dying, but will have to recheck when next I reinstall the game)

Spoiler for Wafuuuuuu:

There is a point in Kud's route where she remembers what happened to her parents and that she forgot about it. There is also the issue of the sealed box, as I mentioned. Why did Kud have the piece of the spacecraft--which she had since the beginning--if the events happened after she left? Certainly, most of the other LB members were not as self-aware of their existence in the dream world as Kyousuke, Kengo, and Masato (with the possible exception of Kurugaya). But, in the climax of Kud's route, she becomes self-aware (which provides a strong hint to the reader that not all is as it seems).

While the epilogue does not explicitly state what actually happened in the real world prior to the bus accident, I do think there are enough statements and hints in the dream world to roughly put an outline together. Based on that, Kud's parents died after the failed launch and she regretted not going to see them when asked. My interpretation of the epilogue is that it was the turmoil afterwards that was resolved.

[Balzac]

Digging through my box for the install disc of Ecstasy put Mintjam's Key arrange album in my hands. I vaguely remember listening to it and skimming through, and when I listened again, I was pleasantly surprised.

Seriously, their vocal is not something for me to judge, but I cannot deny the effectiveness of the rest of the instruments. FYI: the album has male cover versions of each Key game's opening and ending from Kanon down to Little Busters!. I personally believe the Faraway remix was damn emotional on its tone, almost rivalling Rita's version during "that" scene in Refrain.

Listening to it makes my insides go: "What...what's this strange feeling...like there's a fountain inside me about to burst!"

[Arturia Polaris]

Balzac wanna check if you can find my song there? I simply didn't find it in the Rockstar Busters or the original OST...

Niker