2012-09-01, 19:30 | Link #4281 |
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"Fact" for Destiny is unreliably flexible anyway--it gets way, way too many retcons. We still don't have proper confirmation on the origins of the Strike Freedom (stolen ZAFT prototype meant for mass production, or built from the ground up for Kira's personal use?), or on the actual reactor the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice uses or the presence on N-Jammer Cancelers in the machine.
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2012-09-01, 19:47 | Link #4282 | |
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2012-09-01, 22:00 | Link #4283 | |
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2012-09-02, 00:31 | Link #4284 | |
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Still, Shinn's face when Kira and Athrun returned in new Gundams was priceless. What does Shinn have to do to keep those guys dead? He already stabbed through their cockpits, there's no way a normal person could have survived. It's so strange that they didn't even bother showing how they managed to evade death and just shows them waking up elsewhere with a bandage on their face. No scars though, that would ruin their sexiness. |
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2012-09-02, 01:38 | Link #4286 | |
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http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...56#post4330056 In short... In Kira's mind: "You didn't win, I lost."
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2012-09-02, 05:37 | Link #4287 | ||
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His rage has always consumed him, he has been pretty much pissed off nonstop when he fights since episode 1 until the final episode where Athrun finally disabled him. Hell, Shinn's motivation for being a pilot is derived from revenge and hatred. There is nothing that prooves that his rage is preventing him from piloting at full capability in any episode. As for the final episode, Athrun is a much better pilot than Shinn. Shinn's loss had nothing to do with him being pissed off, it had with him targetting Lunamaria to make Athrun go SEED mode and finally stop holding back, if you rewatch the episode, Athrun had no intent on hurting Shinn while Shinn actively tried to cut Athrun down. Quote:
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2012-09-02, 12:25 | Link #4288 |
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a bit offtopic but i think had kira been train as a military soldier he would be unmatched.
if im not mistaken Durandal points this out when giving destiny to shinn and i gotta agreed cause had kira been train, he wouldn't have his no kill policy or he wouldn't hold back. and he would also think of strategies in mid battle and avoid trying something that isn't working like in gundam seed when facing one of the druggies gundams and with destroy gundam.
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2012-09-02, 12:35 | Link #4289 | |
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2012-09-02, 14:29 | Link #4290 | |
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2012-09-02, 14:54 | Link #4291 |
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Destined Fate: Just quit man,we all know your shinn's White Knight in Shining Armor,there's no reasoning with you. I look at like this if,Shinn did not beat kira in that fight,you would have no argument,you would have nothing to come at people with,no reason to argue with them. What would you be doing now? Any ideas
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2012-09-02, 16:58 | Link #4292 |
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Kira's not totally making that up really. For the first half of the fight he's basically just running from Shinn and trying to shake him off so he could run away. It's not until Zaft starts attacking AA in earnest (because Talia asked to surrender but Durandal ordered them to take no prisoners) that Kira (almost reluctantly) starts firing back.
And even then they're evenly matched until Shinn uses the Impluse's core system to cripple Freedom's wings. He's even able to use the replacement parts to recover from a serious error that would have otherwise cost him the fight. Piloting Destiny he no longer has that advantage and is back to being even with him. |
2012-09-02, 17:24 | Link #4295 | ||
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Athrun pretty much asked How the hell did you lose to Shinn?? Kira's reply more or less described the situation then: Because I could not focus. I don't know if Kira underestimated Shinn. I don't think so, but I think his mind was on a large number of events happening around him that he simply couldn't concentrate. Quote:
If we had to apply the laws of psychics on these suits, many of them would be sitting ducks... let alone fly... - Tak
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2012-09-02, 17:28 | Link #4296 |
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Regardless, there's more pros to cons for ditching the Super DRAGOONs when in atmospheric content. Those wings also hide thrusters in the Voiture Lumiere, same as the Destiny's Wings of Light--and I believe it's been mentioned that the Strike Freedom's was modified from the original. Removing the weapons would decrease the weight, free up those thrusters for use, and it'd also give the wings--and the suit as a whole--a thinner profile, resulting in less places for enemies to hit. Ignoring the fact that SEED Destiny made sure no one could hit the Strike Freedom anyway.
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2012-09-02, 18:14 | Link #4298 |
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VL is useless since there are no solar winds while in Earth's atmosphere to take advantage of.... Plus, the Dragoons thrusters aid SF while docked....
And SF also has thrusters in the legs and most likely feet( as most Gundams seem to have). |
2012-09-02, 18:17 | Link #4299 | |
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This I'll need a scene for to confirm this detail, since I'm not past the 10th DVD, as my copy is corrupted, so I haven't seen all the battles the Strike Freedom has taken part in. If you or someone else could provide me a link I'd be grateful.
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2012-09-02, 18:24 | Link #4300 | ||
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