(L+CR) Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka

[Flower]

Originally Posted by ChampDream

Bell really hate minotaurs....

Originally Posted by The One Above God

Bell really hates Minotaurs, huh?

Yes.

Obviously.

Even so, another decent ep ... I like that we are finally getting one of the ex-adventurer maid waitresses "going back into service" - am interested to see her skills. ^^

[The Green One]

Whew Bell really messed up those Minotaurs. Quite a frenzy he had there. Looks like the Middle Floors are where the dungeon actively starts to screw with you. Pretty desperate situation they're in.

[demonicslayer]

Well, after 10th floor, virtually a whole party can be wiped out even if the party consisted of a 2or more level 2 adventurers. So, any adventurers required a large group of party with strategies, considerable skills and cooperation in order to go farther without getting into unneccessary danger. As the hounds by themselves can kill a lv2 adventurer just by using their fire alone. Minotaur is the least of the problem, having been swarmed by virtually uncountable amount of monsters are much more dangerous.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Marcus H.

And finally we see the reason why Hestia is the Goddess of the Hearth.

I dont understand. What does that supposed to mean? What does Goddess of te Hearth power actually? What was her role? Not exactly familiar with the norse mythology.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

For some reason I really like the idea of this current situation. Bell and company in deep trouble and in danger of all getting killed down there. They are kind of paying the price of heading down into the middle floors with that small and limited of a group. If It wasn't for Eina's tips....they already be gone.

Eh. Takemikazuchi's members got in with a large group. See where that lead. What you need is the right members (quality over quantity), luck, and the willingness to use other adventurers as bait as you make your escape.

[demonicslayer]

Originally Posted by noobita

I dont understand. What does that supposed to mean? What does Goddess of te Hearth power actually? What was her role? Not exactly familiar with the norse mythology.

Not sure if I could answer a portion of it. Hestia is not from Norse mythlogy. Hestia is a Greek Goddess. The elder sister of Zeus from mythology. Her other name in Roman mythology is Vesta. Her duty is as the goddess of the hearth, the home, and domestic life. So, in this novel, the author used mythology from Greek, Hindu, Japan, Mesopotamia and etc. I think Hestia doesn't have actual power as to the likes of Loki, Freya, Ishtar and etc. But she as the goddess of hearth offers people the comfort of a home to return to and a warm place they could take refuge. In other words, as in this novel, Hestia was chosen as the most appropriate goddess due to that She is the one who offer Bell a familia and gave her a refuge. That is why while she is a goddess, her action is more towards a overprotective mother that doesnt want to lose her son + some other traits which the author place in to make her interesting.

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Eh. Takemikazuchi's members got in with a large group. See where that lead. What you need is the right members (quality over quantity), luck, and the willingness to use other adventurers as bait as you make your escape.

Well, what you said is right but sometimes, there are times when things doesn't work out as plan. Carelessness, ill-prepared, ignorance and over-relying can get the adventurers into troubles. As they mentioned that many adventurers never returned from middle floor due to bad party composition, ill-prepared and bad planning. Some were burned to death by the hounds. If you look at Take's team, it seemed they don't have any Salamander's wool. Their members are not so capable except Mikoto (which recently level up) and Ouka. While it is hard to know what really happened except for their member being hit by an axe from Al-Mi-Raj. We can assume that they are ambushed and their member was downed with injury. Dragging the fight too long is too risky and decided that to save their member, the leader, Ouka decided that they would make Bell's team as the bait. Still, they did inform the Takemikazuchi about it and decide to help out to save Bell's team.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by demonicslayer

That is why while she is a goddess, her action is more towards a overprotective mother that doesnt want to lose her son + some other traits which the author place in to make her interesting.

Well she doesn't think of him as a son does she. Note Hestia is a virgin goddess both in mythology and here. She wants to Bell to take away her virginity and make some demigods. Which is why Hestia liking somebody is big news among goddesses. Nobody has ever nailed Hestia.

[human6861]

Seriously think about this

[p-kun]

Surprisingly there's no warp wire like item in this world. Is there a warp portal in certain floors or do you need to backtrack by foot to the entrance if you want to escape?

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Eh. Takemikazuchi's members got in with a large group. See where that lead. What you need is the right members (quality over quantity), luck, and the willingness to use other adventurers as bait as you make your escape.

Speaking of quality over quantity, now the rescue team has 2 deadweights. I hope we will see Hermes or Hestia use their power so that their roles will be something more than dragging down the team and creating drama.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by human6861

Seriously think about this

Do you honestly think they have no means of detecting when divine magic is used?

Sneaking into the dungeon is different, since if they don't use their powers, they're not much different from humans.

[Anh_Minh]

Fridge logic question: what is Salamander Wool, and how is it obtained?

Is it just hair from a woolly animal (rather than a monster) that happens to be fire resistant?

Or does it come from some kind of fire lizard monster? Do those have hair? And if so... Is it an item drop? How many of those do you need to kill to get enough wool for even one cape? All Bell got from fighting a figging minotaur was one horn that was enough for one small knife.

[Sixth]

@demonicslayerNot sure if I could answer a portion of it. Hestia is not from Norse mythlogy. Hestia is a Greek Goddess. The elder sister of Zeus from mythology. Her other name in Roman mythology is Vesta. Her duty is as the goddess of the hearth, the home, and domestic life. So, in this novel, the author used mythology from Greek, Hindu, Japan, Mesopotamia and etc. I think Hestia doesn't have actual power as to the likes of Loki, Freya, Ishtar and etc. But she as the goddess of hearth offers people the comfort of a home to return to and a warm place they could take refuge. In other words, as in this novel, Hestia was chosen as the most appropriate goddess due to that She is the one who offer Bell a familia and gave her a refuge. That is why while she is a goddess, her action is more towards a overprotective mother that doesnt want to lose her son + some other traits which the author place in to make her interesting.

Well, thanks. It is good enough. It gave me roughly idea of what Goddess of Hearth do.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

Fridge logic question: what is Salamander Wool, and how is it obtained?

Is it just hair from a woolly animal (rather than a monster) that happens to be fire resistant?

Or does it come from some kind of fire lizard monster? Do those have hair? And if so... Is it an item drop? How many of those do you need to kill to get enough wool for even one cape? All Bell got from fighting a figging minotaur was one horn that was enough for one small knife.

This is probably a conflict between the novel and the anime presentations. People have reported that, in the novels, the monsters' bodies do not disappear when they are killed, and the adventurers (or more often, their supporters) have to perform a bit of butchery to retrieve the magic stones from the bodies. Thus, under those circumstances other things could be harvested from a monster's body.

Or it's possible that salamanders are just animals. Or that this is just specially treated wool that gets that name because the treatment makes it fire-resistant.

[SQA]

I'll give the author credit: "training" another group really is about akin to murder in this world. And it makes sense why it would happen.

[SamCurt]

The pub 's name is one that all official and unofficial translators can agree on (Benevolent Mistress). Then in the anime the Japanese decides to call in Mistress of Fertility...

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

This is probably a conflict between the novel and the anime presentations. People have reported that, in the novels, the monsters' bodies do not disappear when they are killed, and the adventurers (or more often, their supporters) have to perform a bit of butchery to retrieve the magic stones from the bodies. Thus, under those circumstances other things could be harvested from a monster's body.

Or it's possible that salamanders are just animals. Or that this is just specially treated wool that gets that name because the treatment makes it fire-resistant.

The bodies do turn to ash but only once the core is removed. Only items that have a large amount of magic in them can keep existing without the core. Anything that is harvested from a monster is an item drop. Anything that didn't have enough magic in it would crumble to ash if it was cut off the body and therefore removed from the core.

Originally Posted by SamCurt

The pub 's name is one that all official and unofficial translators can agree on (Benevolent Mistress). Then in the anime the Japanese decides to call in Mistress of Fertility...

It is most likely because it's name is in reference to *Gefn which means "she who gives (prosperity or happiness)" and is a reference to a fertility goddess. The translation could always have had either meaning.

[Marcus H.]

The pub 's name is one that all official and unofficial translators can agree on (Benevolent Mistress). Then in the anime the Japanese decides to call in Mistress of Fertility...

Man, they really like to push that pub's connection with a certain fertility god, huh...

[Benigmatica]

Episode 10:
Damn, the middle levels have Dark Souls-level of difficulty. Good thing Bell has that salamander wool cape in his hand or his party would be a goner!

By the way, I suppose that the various earthquakes that happened on the dungeon was caused by Freya's intervention, I suppose?

[Chosen_Hero]

Originally Posted by demonicslayer

Not sure if I could answer a portion of it. Hestia is not from Norse mythlogy. Hestia is a Greek Goddess. The elder sister of Zeus from mythology. Her other name in Roman mythology is Vesta. Her duty is as the goddess of the hearth, the home, and domestic life.

In other words she is the goddess of being a waifu.

[Raviel]

Originally Posted by Chosen_Hero

In other words she is the goddess of being a waifu.

You know, upon contemplating the meaning of a hearth............that's actually a very good point