Zenless Zone Zero

[Liddo-kun]

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from what I've heard, the video shows her past lives. She's really old.

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

It's not the elemental resistance, it's the level scaling penalty. Try one of the lv60+ Critical nodes on Shiyu Defense while you're capped at lv50, and you'll struggle on time even if you're on element.

I know, but I meant if everyone could already have two teams of level 60 characters right away, then they *would* put other mechanics like harsh elemental resistance penalties so that people who want to "beat the game" would be forced to keep grinding with more characters. That's why they purposefully slow everyone down with this harsh grind.

This is also what I meant by missing out on some endgame rewards for now. But that's also the same as I do in all Hoyoverse games, really -- they're typically tuned so that 90% of the rewards are fairly accessible, and the last 10% require true dedication, and I'm just not that dedicated to any single game. I'll do the level 60+ stuff some day, and for now just do what's reasonable without too much grind. But obviously, everyone's approach is different.

[Kuroageha]

TBH I find this more fun than genshin and SR

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Kuroageha

TBH I find this more fun than genshin and SR

I think recency bias is definitely a real thing, and anything new tends to have a honeymoon period before it starts to feel stale, so I'm not sure how I'll feel about it in 6-12 months. They were definitely smart, though, in making ZZZ have a very different feel and playstyle compared to the other two, so the games complement each other very well.

I love the overall "style" of the game, especially in terms of art and music, which reminds me a lot of Persona games (the relationship mechanic also reminds me of this). The combat also feels satisfyingly arcade-y in style, and doing things like counters and quick-assists feels very nice. I like the sense of "weight" the various weapons have. Although the three-person party interplay is simple, the clear roles and choreographed assists make it honestly feel a bit more cohesive as team combat gameplay than something like Wuthering Waves to me (where each player might have more moves/skills, but the interplay between party members doesn't feel as solid IMO). Having the various factions in this game helps them create sort of "recommended teams" that have good balance (DPS, stun, support, for example), which is actually useful for casual players who sometimes struggle with team composition/synergy. And as with all Hoyoverse games, it has a very rich lore with lots of interesting elements for them to explore in the patches ahead. While I liked some parts of the story more than others (as always), on the whole I thought it was very good. Also, thankfully the dailies are quick and easy, which makes it easier for people who play multiple games (incl. other Hoyoverse games).

Anyway, it's pretty impressive where they've taken the gacha gaming space with all these titles compared to where it was before. It'll be interesting to see how the space continues to evolve in the years ahead.

[Liddo-kun]

there is also the theory among fans that Hoyo intentionally used less popular characters in their other two games, Genshin and Star Rail. Sigewinne banner and Jade banner. To give ZZZ some time to shine.

[TnAdct1]

Originally Posted by Liddo-kun

Spoiler:

from what I've heard, the video shows her past lives. She's really old.

Spoiler:

Any chance this could be used to a way to make her appear in either Genshin or SR?

[Liddo-kun]

@TnAdct1

do you mean, she would appear as a playable character in other Hoyo game? In my opinion it would be a negative for ZZZ if Qingyi would appear as a playable character in Star Rail or Genshin. They are trying to make interesting characters, so people would play ZZZ.. if she can be found in other Hoyo game, then that sort of defeats the purpose.

I know there's another angle to look at this, that she could be a good "advertisement".. but if she appears in Genshin, then I'd certainly pull and then have one less reason to install the other game. That's how I would act. Not sure what other people would do.

[MeoTwister5]

Apparently Qingyi's dodges are bugged where the standard dodge animations proc but she still takes damage. Was wondering why I couldn't keep her alive.

Other than that she's an absolute stun beast.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

Apparently Qingyi's dodges are bugged where the standard dodge animations proc but she still takes damage. Was wondering why I couldn't keep her alive.

Other than that she's an absolute stun beast.

I've never had that problem, but I dodge earlier rather than later.

For what it's worth, I've seen the video proof too, and it just looks like they're getting hit during BA3's armor right before they cancel into a dodge to me.

[Liddo-kun]

Qingyi polymer clay art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVFiJjxz5Z8

video playback outside youtube has been disabled by owner, so I just put the youtube link here.

[belatkuro]

Finally managed to finish all levels of Shiyu Defense Critical, although stage 6 and 7 are only A rank for now. Not enough damage to finish within S rank. Heavily invested on my Attack units Ellen and Zhu Yuan. Both are level 60 with level 60 W-Engines, level 8+ skills and rank E-F core passives. Also managed to land some great Crit values for both of them.
Everyone has maxed Disc Drives with ideal main stats as recommended in Prydwen(substats will be for the future). But my other Stun and Supports are at level 50 with only level 30-40 W-Engines and level 5 skills. Definitely the reason I couldn't get the S rank. It's all other stuff aside from the main DPS that still need work. It's a team effort in damage so I need to raise them further to contribute more in combat. Things are so expensive to level though that I'm still out of Dennies even with the rewards from the Golden Week event.

It doesn't matter much if you don't match the weakness type, just avoid the resistances it seems. Still having trouble against the big machine bosses from Belobog but I'm mostly getting a hang of the combat now. I still hate fighting those Ethereals that do those disappearing slashes and those brawler Raiders that punch hard.

I'd like a dedicated Fire and/or Physical DPS for human enemies/Hollow Raiders. And Electric too for the big machine enemies(not pulling for Qinyi right now). I'm thinking of building Anton as an Electric DPS but I'll wait for Yanagi as she and Harumasa are Electric it seems from the Inferno Reap quest. As for Physical, Jane was so good in the story quest that I want to get her but it seems Caesar is shaping up to be a broken unit. Both are tempting but I can only afford to get one of them. Let's wait for the final version of Caesar I suppose. Though if I go for Jane I can get Seth and maybe I can make a Mono Electric Anomaly with Grace Seth and Rina.

[Liddo-kun]

Lore Teaser:

[Liddo-kun]

Jane character teaser.

[belatkuro]

80 pulls for a loss to Soldier 11, with an M6 Seth and M6 Anby as well who was M3 before. And bonus 2 dupes of Soukaku's W-Engine. I just got S11's sig W-Engine from standard banner so it's fine and I want S11 too.
Tried 2 more multis to drain my stash, nothing. Then 2 single pulls later, Jane Doe. Yay. Got a lot of units to build now. I just said above I wanted a Fire and a Physical DPS and now I have them. And good thing that Jane sent some generous materials to help with leveling.

[Liddo-kun]

congrats on pulling the 5 star that you want.