2013-05-14, 04:43 | Link #28201 | |
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He was never going to be a successful business man.
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2013-05-14, 04:47 | Link #28202 | |
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I've read the original text, he's talking about the system of "prostitution for soldiers", and not how it was achieved (forced unwilling women). Nevertheless, he made a really stupid comment.
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2013-05-14, 04:53 | Link #28203 | |
Moving in circles
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Off the top of my head, the countries and territories in East Asia that practice conscription are Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea. These places face the real and present danger of bigger, more powerful neighbours who may or may not turn hostile for whatever reason. Hence, the need for conscription to bolster the professional soldiers who form the core of their armed forces. There are probably a few more examples of conscription in East Asia that I don't know about. For example, if I recall correctly, Thailand's men are also required to perform national service but, in their case, they serve as monks, not soldiers. If, on the other hand, you're asking for specific historical reasons, I can answer only for Singapore. It comes from a crucial part of our national narrative: We don't want a repeat of our World War II experience, when we caught defenceless by a determined enemy. We can't and don't expect allies to come to our aid if we are invaded. If help arrives, so much the better. But we had better be able to defend ourselves well before that. The experience of Kuwait, when it was suddenly invaded and annexed by Iraq some 20 years ago, is instructive. Hence, the need for a citizen army in Singapore. A small corp of professional soldiers alone will not be sufficient for our national defence needs. |
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2013-05-14, 05:05 | Link #28204 | |
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We are part of a paper tiger force. And I would like to remind people out there that paper-cuts do hurt, and they make you look stupid in the process of getting them.
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2013-05-14, 05:07 | Link #28205 |
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Taiwan's compulsory military service came from the history of Chiang's fantasy dream in "retaking China." Yeah, sure. And I can conquer Germany with a pointed stick.
Of course, in modern times it is just the same reason as Singapore; that realistically there is not enough voluntary troops to realistically repel an attack from, let's not beat around the bush, China. Yes, China is the reason the conscription exists. Because China is scary and deadly. Or at least, the politicians believe it. Now let's hear from the Chinese posters trying to claim they would never do such a thing.
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2013-05-14, 05:07 | Link #28206 | |
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Absolutely; us rear echelon support bros would be right there behind the Saintesses of the SAF cheering them on.
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2013-05-14, 05:09 | Link #28207 | |
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As for whether our boys would be ready if the button is pushed, well, there is only one way to know. The boys that need to be ready will know what they have to do. Let's just say the possibility of that happening directly to Singapore is very, very low, for very-easy-to-understand geopolitical and, more importantly, logistical reasons. When I said we face potential danger, I'm not talking about danger that far abroad. |
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2013-05-14, 05:12 | Link #28208 | |
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The objective though of such small standing armies, is to make their enemies look stupid in the process of taking over them. The expenditure to take over something which they have to rebuild and control is detrimental for national image, which hurts their economy and business trust globally. Like how silly the US and USSR looked in the face of Afghanistan.
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2013-05-14, 05:22 | Link #28211 | ||
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We? From which faction are you from?
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@ VCV, I am sorry I can't go into more details without you asking specific questions, even which I have to pick-and-choose to answer. I don't like coffee, neither do I like drinking it with government officials suffering from OCD.
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2013-05-14, 05:25 | Link #28213 | |
Moving in circles
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Just joking. It's not a big secret, as plenty of loose-lipped Singaporeans would have let it slip by now. All the same though, I won't say. All I can say is that some, including Singaporeans, laugh away the potential threats as figments of a paranoiac imagination. That's life. Most people don't expect to be hit until shit actually hits the fan. |
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2013-05-14, 05:31 | Link #28214 | |
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Stop stealing other people's jobs. Go back to your command vehicle and wave your arms at elsewhere.
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We do practice a system of "open secrets" like US. Given the rise of the internet, many militaries do offer a slightly relaxed stance of discussions, as long as it doesn't hit a certain level of detail. In fact, most of us here don't even know the deeper details. Even if it is, it is heavily comparmentalised to limit damage. It is just like how Stratfor is whistling away when they got exposed last year. There are many, many things that they are doing that we don't know. At the age of free infomation, any military with foresight would have already set in parameters and spoofs to counter leaks of any size. As for SHTF situations, there are plans. For everyone. Even those who are not expecting it. What are of those? I will tell you when the Parliament passes a bill to remove the age limit of marriage. P.S Whatever I have written here are all over JDW and a number of military-related literature/journalism. But that doesn't mean all of you here can start a discussion of the SAF and let it go out of hand.
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2013-05-14, 07:02 | Link #28216 | |
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Associated Press says U.S. government seized journalists' phone records
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94C0ZW20130514 Quote:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94D00520130514
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2013-05-14, 08:26 | Link #28217 |
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Japanese Mayor believe sex slaves were necessary during the war.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...ssary/2157489/ Oh geez, just when Chinese and Koreans are calming down, this guy have to "reset" Japan to Asia relationships to "Glowing rage" |
2013-05-14, 09:01 | Link #28219 | |
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/SE Asian tensions are wut? Complicated.
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2013-05-14, 09:04 | Link #28220 | |
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He's in favor for it, saying and bringing up "comfort women" as an example of soldiers needing prostitution. I mean, what he said was no doubt idiotic, but I think it's getting taken out of context. Also, you do realize this is the same man who said Japan should just give Takeshima/Dokudo to South Korea, since it's not worth fighting over.
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