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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 4 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 9 | 8.41% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 20 | 18.69% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 34 | 31.78% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 24 | 22.43% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 9 | 8.41% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 8 | 7.48% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.93% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 1.87% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2007-10-29, 14:20 | Link #122 |
There there, Maggie-chan
Join Date: Sep 2007
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We are thinking its a harem cause so far it is one :P But i do suspect something with konoe, she is behaving too strangely. The part where she suddenly looked into the sky then ran off was real suspicious too, and for crying out loud, normal people don't have birds flocking to them...
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2007-10-29, 14:32 | Link #123 | ||
Snape: "I hate Potter!"
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Perhaps you're dislike for S2 was that you found it to be repetitive of S1.
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2007-10-29, 14:34 | Link #124 |
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Well Yuji already suspected something deja vu as he stared into Konoe's eyes long enough and realizes that he seen this void in the eyes before, Hecate back in Seirei Den. But his belief that she is just a normal school girl prevented him to extrapolate on the deja vu feeling and her cuteness won his trust over his suspicion.
I was suspecting that Konoe is actually Hecate locked in her powers by the right hand bangle which is a Hougu in diguise. If I was right, Sydonay will not forgive Bel Peol for putting his beloved Hecate in such dangerous situation. It will be interesting fight between these 2.
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2007-10-29, 15:39 | Link #125 | ||
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Ah, finally some thoughts about some deeper meanings! That's great to see.
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2007-10-29, 16:47 | Link #126 | |||
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At first when she first appeared, I went "Hecate?!", but after that, I went and read her profile. After that, episodes 3-4. I really don't suspect her anymore. Of course, there obviously is a chance, but I'll stick with "she isn't" for now. We still have 20+ episodes, assuming it takes that long WHICH it definitely won't. Unless Shana II receives the fate of Zero II. Quote:
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2007-10-29, 18:53 | Link #127 | |
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Lack of parents... By the way, here's a question for everyone who hasn't answered this: Say that you have a normal kid whose parents are Torches. When his/her parents burn out and vanish like other Torches do, does the kid disappear as well even if he/she is not a Torch at all to begin with? I mean, when Torches die, all evidence of their existence is eradicated from memory so how does this work out? Yuji looking into Konoe's eyes... it looks like Konoe's already ahead of Shana and Yoshida for his affections without any effort on her part. I wonder what it looks like to see Shana taking her anger out on Wilhelmina in Episode 5. |
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2007-10-29, 21:20 | Link #128 | |
Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!!
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@lua thien - Wow that is a great point. How does that work? If the child suddenly disappears without a shock absorber wouldn't cause unbalance? But as you say how do u deal with parents who no longer exist? *brain hurts*
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2007-10-29, 22:07 | Link #129 |
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I find it funny how Yuji is rather oblivious to Yoshida's feelings as well as Shana's. Does anyone remember in season 1 how Yuji quickly realised the original Yukari Hirai liked Ike? Although she did ask rather subtly if Ike had a girlfriend, Yuji still picked up on her having a crush on Ike yet he is so oblivious to Shana & Yoshida.
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2007-10-29, 22:35 | Link #130 | |
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All we can do is hope either Yuji does notice or figure it out, Or Shana gets her feelings sorted out and tells Yuji face-to-face what he means to her. Or somthing like that.
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2007-10-29, 22:36 | Link #131 | |
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Kinny Riddle explained: An interesting question arises concerning Torches: When a person disappear, what happens to his family? Let's consider the following example: Unlike time travel, where you go back in time and kill your grandfather, you end up killing your existence. If a Denizen ends up devouring your grandfather, you will not disappear, because nothing will change the fact that you're "born". Rather, your perception of who your grandfather was will change. You will wonder "I wonder who my grandfather was?" Your grandmother would struggle to remember how on earth did she have children, etc. But they would then come up with a "rational explanation" to explain away this "unnatural distortion" to their perception of the world. The same applies to a Torch's physical possession. Take the hapless Hirai Yukari for example, after she disappeared (along with her just as unlucky parents), her apartment does not become vacant overnight. Rather, the stuff inside would continue to remain there, collecting dust. Neighbours would wonder "Did someone ever live here? No one's ever gone in and out for ages." (Not counting the fact that until recently, Shana never bothered staying there. )
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2007-10-29, 23:21 | Link #132 | |
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as for Yoshida, I really wonder if he does have feelings for her...Well, that's a different discussion though. lets just say Yuji has about a week or two before he's guilty of ignoring Yoshida's jealously. After all, he's only seen her looking disappointed in the morning after days of Yoshida being extremely friendly with Konoe and showing no issue with Yuji's friendship with Konoe. |
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2007-10-29, 23:40 | Link #133 | |
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2007-10-29, 23:56 | Link #134 | |
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EDIT: OMG, there's a McDonald's reference in this episode! Last edited by minhtam1638; 2007-10-30 at 00:18. Reason: Discovered McDonald's reference |
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2007-10-30, 04:01 | Link #135 | |
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im also getting real bored of S2. The relationship development seems completely reset, as shana takes back her confession and yoshida hasnt changed much. the only obvious change are the lunches. im also waiting for some more action fighting rather than a love square development. margery has pretty much been lying drunk for the entire second season so far (except for tht useless spell she sent at konoe). the only interesting part so far is the identity of konoe. all the other stuff about the keeper or yuji's training is too vague. my guess is konoe's like a doll or clone of hecate, which hecate may eventually recall to absorb the accumulated memories with yuji. |
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2007-10-30, 05:58 | Link #136 | |||
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Now, recently, Shana is gradually getting more aware of those - her jealousy not only towards Yoshida, but now towards Konoe aswell. As someone who is much more interested in character development instead of the slashing of the monster of the week, I've been very pleased with how they depicted the gradual slippery slope not only for Shana, but also for Yoshida (since the OP indicates that Ike will eventually make his move). So, there ARE developments, but slow ones, and on the character angle. Nicely done, imho. Quote:
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2007-10-30, 06:48 | Link #137 | |
Snape: "I hate Potter!"
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I don't see how you can see S2 as a reset where as i though that S1 was a reset and found that S2 is actually delving deeper into their relationship.. As for those wanting more action, you have to be prepare for character development as Shana isn't all about fighting the evil bad guys, like i said go watch some shounen anime if you want action, Shana's more about the development of characters as they face obstacles such as the Bal Masque.
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2007-10-30, 08:20 | Link #138 | |
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2007-10-30, 11:26 | Link #139 |
Chicken or Beef?
Join Date: Aug 2007
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zomg I found something interesting. Near the last scene, there was symbolism to the relationship between Yuji and Konoe, When Yuji and Konoe were smiling at eachother the parent bird sat on Yuji's shoulder while Konoe had the baby bird. So if I'm right about this, there is no romantic feelings involved with Yuji towards Konoe and vice versa. I think that Konoe isn't even mentally capable of thinking about romance, its basically like a baby chick that clings onto whatever they see first and claims that thing as their parent.
lol, after writing that I see the similarity in behavior with Konoe and a baby bird, and why the writer was constantly using bird references. Thats why I believe Yuji doesn't really get why Shana is upset, since its more of a paternal feeling he has towards Konoe. Also, you gotta give Yuji credit that he never stopped thinking about Shana, cause as we all know, he does like her in that sort of way. Edit: fixed Last edited by HayashiTakara; 2007-10-30 at 14:28. |
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