Valkyria Chronicles generic discussion

[Yu Ominae]

The OP!

It's so awesome! Thank you HIMEKA!

[Sakome]

In the game they mentioned Gallia citizens do undergo military training even at a young age as part of their schooling. I think Welkin is in his early 20's and Alicia is 19 or so. Welkin also mentioned he did have high grades in tank tactics or something.

The first episode was definetely a setup episode, it did take a bit for the game to get going after the beginning cutscenes/battles. But it really is one of the best strategy rpg's I've ever played. I hope the anime can live up to it. The CANVAS graphics from the game is probably the best anime look I have ever seen, its like water colors brought to life as a anime. So A-1's their attempt at it took me a little bit to get used to but its still a good looking anime. Welkin is a bit of a airhead but he does become a good commander.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by alu546

Used marin, edy, and dallas like everytime though

You meant Marina Wolfstein, the sniper, right? If so, yeah, she was definitely a must have, she was indeed the best sniper you will ever get.

Speaking of which, I hope we do not forget some of studio Ghibli's films, as they were a major inspiration for the game and later, the anime's graphics. The style that is the Canvas Engine certainly had been done before.

- Tak (On the other hand, Gallia imitates Switzerland almost to a T)

[Willen]

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

2. I agree with what's been said about the length of time it takes for Alicia to 'get it.' Honestly, I don't remember it taking her that long in the game. Granted the events were quite different, but even taking this with an open mind if she's lived there most all her life she should recognize his name. If Gunther is such a big name in Bruhl shouldn't people know he had two kids?

I don't think it's that Alicia doesn't know these things, I think the opposite is true - it's very common knowledge that the famous General Gunther has a son named Welkin, has a daughter named Isara (presumably her adoptive status and Darcsen heritage would be known also, but considering the racial climate and the Gunthers' own "it's a non-issue" attitude about it, these details may be less well known), and where the Gunther household house is. So anyone even remotely fitting Welkin's description could say he's the General's son and you wouldn't know if he was the real thing or a spy unless you really knew the family. And IIRC, the Gunthers kept a low profile in town and I assume that the townspeople of Bruhl didn't generally go bothering them.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by yongshun

Isara was always a little badass

I tried to use Susie but she refuses to shoot anyone in the head damn pacifist trait of hers .

Alicia was 19 and Welkin was 22 I believe

It was a nice shot by Isara I have to say . Not to mention she nearly got a knife kill on Alicia too. Though that one could have been a doubt kill if Alicia pulled the trigger.

The town watch has to be really desperate if Susie is part of it. Just doesn't seem like the type for it. Would probably fit in better with the fleeing civilians.

Think they kept the mistaken identity thing going on for a bit too long, but oh well.

[Yu Ominae]

I just wanted to grab Susie and yell in her face "What the hell are you doing with the Bruhl Town Watch, woman?!"

Here's the ED: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/u...es/313119.html

PS - The PM of Gallia's has a weird hobby.

[yongshun]

Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

I just wanted to grab Susie and yell in her face "What the hell are you doing with the Bruhl Town Watch, woman?!"

Here's the ED: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/u...es/313119.html

PS - The PM of Gallia's has a weird hobby.

I think she was asking herself the same thing in the show lol.

[Shiroth]

@Tak - that's still classed as game spoilers, same with what yongshun said.

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

@Tak - that's still classed as game spoilers, same with what yongshun said.

Er... not really, because...

Spoiler for Click:

That rivalry was never in the game

- Tak

[Yu Ominae]

That can be a game original.

[alu546]

They were drafted into the militia by age, your right when you think that Susie shouldnt be there, that is indeed how bad the situation is for them. Didnt see any civilians 15-30 escaping eh? She has no choice.

And yes I meant Marina earlier, a sniper must be a lone wolf imo.

I cant wait to see how theyll use other potentials, like Edy's "panicky" annd such.

Isara>* btw

[Tak]

Originally Posted by alu546

They were drafted into the militia by age, your right when you think that Susie shouldnt be there, that is indeed how bad the situation is for them. Didnt see any civilians 15-30 escaping eh? She has no choice.

Not surprisingly, since

Spoiler for Hmm:

the youngest member of the militia is 12 years old! While the oldest being 64!!

Originally Posted by Shiroth

No but certain characters having feelings for other characters is a spoiler.

Heh, we don't even know if all of the characters (including whatsherface) will make it into the show. Not that many of them every played a major role anyway, except a handful.

- Tak

[Yu Ominae]

Word out there is that the ED single is out by May 13.

Saying that, I enjoyed the video. And yeah, closet Borg.

PS - Seems that the animation has Vietnamese staff involved, no Koreans for the meantime.

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Willen

I don't think it's that Alicia doesn't know these things, I think the opposite is true - it's very common knowledge that the famous General Gunther has a son named Welkin, has a daughter named Isara (presumably her adoptive status and Darcsen heritage would be known also, but considering the racial climate and the Gunthers' own "it's a non-issue" attitude about it, these details may be less well known), and where the Gunther household house is. So anyone even remotely fitting Welkin's description could say he's the General's son and you wouldn't know if he was the real thing or a spy unless you really knew the family. And IIRC, the Gunthers kept a low profile in town and I assume that the townspeople of Bruhl didn't generally go bothering them.

I don't really remember it being that way in the game. In fact I think Alicia somewhat knew of Isara when they met.

I could be wrong, but I just think that the whole issue wasn't as being as big of an issue. I can't check since it my PS3 is at home...

[Guppy]

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

I don't really remember it being that way in the game. In fact I think Alicia somewhat knew of Isara when they met.

Alicia did know Isara in the game. The whole thing with Welkin getting arrested was wrapped up in the first cutscene, when Isara came out to meet up with her brother and saw Alicia escorting him back to town.

The problem with that is that the game has a pretty leisurely start; if they followed it, they'd have had to devote airtime to Welkin and Isara packing up their house while Alicia dropped by to introduce herself and hand over some sorry-I-arrested-you bread, and then everyone would have a nice chat about Welkin's family circumstances and Alicia's career aspirations over tea.

I'd strongly suspect doing that would bore the pants off anime-only viewers, though, and game-players have already watched those cutscenes and really don't need to see them again.

[Willen]

Originally Posted by JagdPanther

I don't really remember it being that way in the game. In fact I think Alicia somewhat knew of Isara when they met.

I could be wrong, but I just think that the whole issue wasn't as being as big of an issue. I can't check since it my PS3 is at home...

In the game at least, it's established that Alicia knows Isara based on the conversation between them when they meet up. IIRC, Alicia also knows Martha and her relationship with the Gunthers.

My comment was based on the anime version of events and trying to explain how it is possible that Alicia could not know the identity of either Welkin or Isara. I probably should have been more specific, but I assumed that since this is the anime thread the anime events are the ones being discussed. The changes between the game and the anime can get confusing.

[Reckoner]

It was a decent episode, I think I'll keep up with a few more before deciding to keep on with it, but it is something to keep me entertained.

[rpgman1]

Really interesting start for a first episode. I haven't played the game but I did see the cutscenes when my brother was playing it. Seems to be more of a misunderstanding between Alicia and Welkin.

[Clarste]

Originally Posted by alu546

Notice how alicia went from not being able to shoot welkin to being able to throw a grenade? She called them "Imps", she demonized them first.

That was a translator decision (probably derived from its use in the translation of the game). Listening to the Japanese, she said "teikokugun" which just means Imperial Army and gets used formally elsewhere. So she wasn't exactly demonizing them any more than usual.

[JagdPanther]

Originally Posted by Guppy

Alicia did know Isara in the game. The whole thing with Welkin getting arrested was wrapped up in the first cutscene, when Isara came out to meet up with her brother and saw Alicia escorting him back to town.

The problem with that is that the game has a pretty leisurely start; if they followed it, they'd have had to devote airtime to Welkin and Isara packing up their house while Alicia dropped by to introduce herself and hand over some sorry-I-arrested-you bread, and then everyone would have a nice chat about Welkin's family circumstances and Alicia's career aspirations over tea.

I'd strongly suspect doing that would bore the pants off anime-only viewers, though, and game-players have already watched those cutscenes and really don't need to see them again.

Oh, I agree. For the purposes of the anime you have to cut some things shorter. But I just felt that even so that was a bit drawn out.

You can cut out a lot of that stuff and still get over the identity stuff shortly. Say, they clear it up with Martha on the road (Alicia doesn't go back quite yet), Welkin goes home and Alicia goes to the meeting, you get a short intro with him and Isara, Alicia shows up to apologize, Imps attack, bam. Solved.

I guess I can't complain too much after the first episode. Things will start to pick up next week, I suspect.