Maria-sama ga Miteru 4th - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[4Tran]

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[Fuze]

After last week's emotional blow, this episode gave Yumi time to re-analyze herself and Touko's feelings. I got so caught up in last week's climax that I was expecting a fast conclusion in this episode. I guess that was a wrong thing for me to do.

At least they had a blast at Sachiko's house and gave Yumi a chance to ease her mind. Some say if you act like you are having a good time, you actually start to have a good time.

Anyway, four more episodes to go? I feel like they have a lot more they need to cover than what is left.

[mintyfresh]

Spoiler for A dramatic turn of events...!?:

Sachiko: 祐巳、服を脱ぎなさい (Yumi, take off your clothes.)

mintyfresh: Σ(ﾟ△ﾟ　；)　！？

....heh, that surprised me quite a bit..
I really think this episode caused me to blush numerous times, to be honest. Sachiko is indeed a frightening person. And, considering the places where my face warmed up a bit, perhaps so am I... orz

Originally Posted by Fuze

Anyway, four more episodes to go? I feel like they have a lot more they need to cover than what is left.

5, if this season is taking the usual path of 13 episodes.
However speaking of that, I was somewhat thinking the same thing.

This is the second time the season has gone through a book in one episode. Now I've never read Kumori Glass no Mukougawa, so I of course can't say if we've skipped something important or whether covering this novel so briefly is justified, but it still irks me just a tinge. I think I've already mentioned before that the fourth season seems to be moving at the speed of light -- this episode marks the end of the fifth book the season's covered since it started. Even the OVA only managed to cover 5 books in roughly 10 episodes; the first two seasons in their 13 ep runs covered 5 and a half books a piece.

I'm still confident I will enjoy the rest of the ride (and I've resigned to believe that this season also plans to end at 13 episodes), but given what needs to be covered and the pattern so far, it also makes me a little uneasy...

[Lesca]

I'd imagine its 13 episodes, since the first and second season both were. I hope so anyway.

Spoiler for Ep 8:

I'm glad Yumi wasn't sad for all of the episode, but I still felt bad for her, specially when she was dreaming about Touko, but couldn't see her through the window.
I'm not sure what exactly Yoshino was saying to Yumi, something about her heart and Touko I presume but the image of shadowed Yumi looked weird to me, like an alien Yumi
At the end when Touko walked up to Yumi and wished her good morning, did she smirk first? or is that just her way of smiling >.> Almost felt like she knew Yumi would be rattled by her presence.

I didn't get what they were playing but it was funny watching Sachiko trying to get Yumi to strip. I liked Sachiko's mother too, she seemed happy for the company.

[Proto]

She explained to Yumi, suing an allegory, that she could think of her hearth as being a house. Yumi said that although she was happy she felt a cold breeze in her hearth. Yoshino replied that although she had her older sister and friend's room full and stacked, she had her younger sister's room empty and closed.

[sa547]

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by mintyfresh

I'm still confident I will enjoy the rest of the ride (and I've resigned to believe that this season also plans to end at 13 episodes), but given what needs to be covered and the pattern so far, it also makes me a little uneasy...

Ditto. I'm staying the course until it's done... but to be close to the end gives me a shiver down my spine.

The timing for the last episode would make sense: in Japan, March is the time for graduation from school, and I believe that this last one may be based on the 35th volume, and therefore would possibly make this season the grand finale.

[cynicalicious]

Spoiler for I can't believe we're already on Episode 8!:

Good episode. Interesting ending. Looks like Touko is in Acting! mode again at the end, trying to keep her mask up. Next week will be interesting. Here's hoping Yumi can keep it together. Of course, Yumi has to snap out of self-pity mode and pay more attention to what's going on with Touko if she wants to make any headway... doesn't look like she's ready to do that yet.

EDIT: Ah, maybe I'm a bit too tough on Yumi. She does make some progress after all... but from the way she talks at the end of the episode, it sounds as if she was the only person who was hurting. She should know by now that Touko is in Acting! mode at the very end and is trying to cover up her pain. Yumi may think Touko forgot what happened, but Touko most assuredly did not.

The game they were playing was sugoroku, if I remember correctly. Sort of like the game of Life, only Sayako was using the whole house to play out the game. Clever way to make use of the mansion.

And I loved Noriko's line when they got to the gates of Sachiko's house-- "Isn't this a park?" LOL. Noriko is awesome.

I don't think they're going to finish the books in this series. I'll be very surprised if they do. (And disappointed, frankly.) I'd wager they'll leave some stuff hanging for OVAs, because there will be a lot of material to go back and pick up along the way. (And you don't leave money lying on the ground.)

Also, don't forget that Konno Oyuki is involved with the production of this series, so hopefully she'll rein them in a little.

[shomai]

Originally Posted by sa547

Spoiler:

Ditto. I'm staying the course until it's done... but to be close to the end gives me a shiver down my spine.

The timing for the last episode would make sense: in Japan, March is the time for graduation from school, and I believe that this last one may be based on the 35th volume, and therefore would possibly make this season the grand finale.

WHAT?! Grand finale?! T.T Geez I hope not.

Oh, and is it just me or is Sachiko getting more and more in the "putting on the moves" zone on Yumi, or not? XD

[Shiroth]

Spoiler for Episode 08:

Wow Sachiko, slow down a little. She was in quite the rush to get Yumi's clothes off. :P

Good episode. The expected 'aftermath' for Yumi after she was turned down by Touko.

[cynicalicious]

Originally Posted by shomai

Oh, and is it just me or is Sachiko getting more and more in the "putting on the moves" zone on Yumi, or not? XD

It's just you. Sachiko HATES to lose, and Yumi was being slower than she needed to be. Sachiko was just impatient. (If you're talking about that one particular scene.)

If you're talking in terms of generalities, Sachiko is very fond of Yumi, and sees her as part of her family. In Sachiko's eyes she really IS her little sister. She's said so a few times already. (It was even said again this episode.) It's the whole reason the evil snobby rich girls tried to take Yumi down in Vacation of the Lambs.

[RobotPony]

Spoiler for :

I like seeing how Yumi, Shimako, and Yoshino are growing. Yoshino seems to be getting more insightful by the day, but she remains competitive...the characters grow without losing their essential 'selves', for lack of a better way to put it : P

Sachiko and her mother's updos looked fab. Anyone know how to put hair up like that?

[Matrim]

Is it wrong of me that I barely managed to resist the temptation to give this episode a 10 mostly for having Shimako in kimono? Good to see Yumi not angsting too much in this episode, thanks largely to the support of her friends.
Yoshino seems to be really maturing in the fourth season, next episode will apparently be centred around her. Life is good!

[Nochgo]

Yet another fine episode. Hehe, it was quite funny how Sachiko tried to take Yumi's clothes off. (rofl) But somehow, I thought that the episode went by really fast, meaning there were too much stuff in just one episode. As mintyfresh pointed out, I can really tell that they rushed through alot of material. Kinda wish they planned for 24-26 season instead, (already nearing 13th episode T.T)
I thought that Yoshino's description of the empty room for Touko's spot in Yumi's heart was really fitting. Touko, you mustn't be afraid to step into that room! Go in there and put off some heat! Ugh, I think Touko just ignoring the situation is just... tasteless.

[Proto]

As mintyfresh pointed out, I can really tell that they rushed through alot of material. Kinda wish they planned for 24-26 season instead, (already nearing 13th episode T.T)

We'd have to recruit Mc'Donalds help as well, not to mention we would have people complaining about the girls eating the Happy Meal.

[Nochgo]

lol, but would that compare to having more Marimite? =p
But yea, pizzahut alone is an eyesore enough

[4Tran]

Broken record time: it's another good Marimite episode. I don't have a lot to say, but I like the fact that they took advantage of Sachiko having a huge house so that they could play their little game. Usually a family having a mansion like that is just a meaningless background detail, but it's put to good effect here.

Originally Posted by Matrim

Is it wrong of me that I barely managed to resist the temptation to give this episode a 10 mostly for having Shimako in kimono?

Yes. You should learn to give into your inner temptations. I really liked the way Shimako had an outer lining over her kimono - it's not the kind of detail that's seen in very many anime. It's still not enough to get me to vote in the thread though.

Originally Posted by Matrim

Yoshino seems to be really maturing in the fourth season, next episode will apparently be centred around her. Life is good!

Or it could just be a fake-out and the episode is mostly about Yumi again.

[Droplet]

A well structured episode... I can find nothing wrong with this one. But, what a build up to an emotional dream!

10/10

edit: at this rate, i think the fourth will be my favorite season of marimite.

[dream-seeker]

It's all in there. The drama, the fun and the story. But why wasn't there any previous roses invited? Youko, Sei and Eriko are gone in their life now? Sachiko should send one invitation to Kashiwagi too. LOL

[4Tran]

Originally Posted by dream-seeker

It's all in there. The drama, the fun and the story. But why wasn't there any previous roses invited? Youko, Sei and Eriko are gone in their life now?

Out of universe reason: the episode wouldn't have worked as well if they had been present. In universe reason: they couldn't make it - they did point out that the attendees had to make extra plans to show up. Alternatively, Sachiko could have thought that it would have created a different kind of atmosphere than the one she wanted to convey.

Originally Posted by dream-seeker

Sachiko should send one invitation to Kashiwagi too. LOL

Girls only. I don't think that anyone wanted to see him in drag .

Now that you bring him up, what happened to the preview for this episode that said that Sachiko had broken up her engagement with Suguru? Was that the entire plot point? (Just to be clear, this is just a rhetorical question, and I'm not really looking for an answer)

[mintyfresh]

Originally Posted by 4Tran

Now that you bring him up, what happened to the preview for this episode that said that Sachiko had broken up her engagement with Suguru? Was that the entire plot point? (Just to be clear, this is just a rhetorical question, and I'm not really looking for an answer)

I hope you'll forgive me for addressing it anyway. It's been something on my mind as well.

Although I was thinking that we may get to see a bit of what Yoshino discussed in the preview for this episode in the next one, the odds are likely more in the favor of what you said; that was all just a teaser and the episode will be more about Yumi and Touko.
So far, Imouto Audition has been the only instance where we see what's discussed in the ep preview revisited in the episode itself. But for other previews like Yoshino meeting up with Nana to stalk Rei on her date, Yumi discussing the way her mother makes curry, Sachiko's plan to dissolve her engagement, etc -- all of these are events from the story that are relegated to the ep preview alone.

It's probably an unavoidable strategy to fit everything in this season. But what I would like to know is (and I suppose it's now my turn to ask a rhetorical question) why would they tell us about it in the first place..? （ ´_ゝ`）