2013-03-13, 03:17 | Link #3721 | |
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The idea came from volume 7 or volume 6 (web 3) when Tatsuya coated a layer of decomposition magic on his hand, "caught" the bullets, and then pierced the soldier's body (prompting Miyuki to tell Tats to not be that bloody). |
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2013-03-13, 03:33 | Link #3722 | |
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Because as far as I understand Mist Dispersion can't be used unless you know the property of the target and so coating his hand with decomposition in a way that regardless of what he touches it gets decomposed makes no sense. |
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2013-03-13, 03:59 | Link #3723 | |
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Lina know of it after the Vampire Arc *shrug*. |
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2013-03-13, 05:31 | Link #3724 | |
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One of the reasons why I'm having a particular soft spot for her is that in the Web Arc summaries Lina came across as particularly human. She doesn't have Tatsuya's iron self-control or Miyuki's impeccable Yamato Nadeshiko habitus, instead she shows her emotions openly, and she is affected by the drain her nasty real-life job is placing on her. She isn't as guarded-perfect as the rest, but neither is she overexcited like Erika. A nice mix I'm looking forward to very much! |
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2013-03-13, 06:27 | Link #3725 | |
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I can't describe more of her character and personality since i haven't read the web or vol 9. |
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2013-03-13, 07:38 | Link #3726 | |
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Youre mistaken in one single fact, Tatsuya has freedom, he is not chained as a Guardian, in fact every single person wants him to stop being a guardian. Why is this??? His status as a Guardian gives him an excuse to not do anything he doesnt wish to do. And be besides the person he wants to be. Being a Guardian gives him duties, protect Miyuki. And nothing else is above this. While he is not a Yotsuba he is under them, so Maya has authority over him. But being the Guardian of Miyuki he can use this to excuse himself of other jobs the clan may try to make him do. When he was given the order to stop being a Guardian (TL or not this is a fact), the reason he could refuse that order is because only Miyuki has the right to fire him. And Maya tried to impose her will through force (although even this was even a test to measure his level of threat), Had he failed she would stop him from being her guardian and appointed someone else. You talk like Tatsuya doesnt want to be the Guardian of Miyuki, when is exactly what he wants. He enjoys to some degree his live in High School and Genius or not he wants to be there. Miyuki has offered him the possibility of going to the university which he flatly refused and he has even included in his plans his life in High School. He doesnt want to, nor does he need his father. His father is jealous of him, why because even under the Yotsuba he has gained his own freedom. Through his accomplishments, you say money, how is he not going to have money when he registered his creations under his alias, and only Miyuki has authority over him. Do you think Miyuki wouldnt raise this issue to her own family if he wouldnt receive the money he rightfully gained. There are two reasons why he has the limited amount of freedom to do what he wants: 1.- He is the Guardian of Miyuki 2.- He is Tatsuya(How Ironic)(Under his two alias he has gained an amount of influence not easily oevrshadowed by anyone) Miyuki and him has formed a simbyotic relationship. Tatsuya protects her from anything, and Miyuki protects him from the Yotsuba. And while Miyuki is a little balistic when it concerns his brother, she is not dumb, you talk like Miyuki misinterprets things, but Miyuki is socially adept and clever, specially when it regards his brother, she never loses her composure when she is in front of those whom are superior to her, and have the power to harm her brother. When she is in front of those whom she and her brother not even consider a threat, then she says how does this insect dare to insult my brother. Because only the insects insult Tatsuya. I like Lina, she is cute, I like her expressions. Seeing her beside Miyuki is a sight for sore eyes. |
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2013-03-13, 10:49 | Link #3727 | |
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And "the fight" is on open plain field with no glass , 1000 metters away from each others. I will place my bet on the "gun" guy. |
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2013-03-13, 12:53 | Link #3728 |
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Mars, you have completely missed the theory's point. My point is I believe Miyuki, Tatsuya, and their father are completely misunderstanding each others motives. Their father thinks Tatsuya is being forced to do what he is. Tatsuya thinks his father just wants him as a tool, like he sees all of the other researchers like his step mother. And Miyuki is mainly pissed because she sees her father as trying to take her brother away from her
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2013-03-13, 13:02 | Link #3729 | |
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But i do appreciate your politeness, therefore i will reply this one last time. Spoiler for let get this over with:
And here, Spoiler for volume 3 chapter2:
He is so great of a father that even though his lap dog(in name he is Yotsuba servant, in reality he is just the boss's private secretary) insult his son, make his daughter cry, he doesn't reprimand it. Only when his dog is cornered and consequently makes himself in danger, he intervenes. Now i wonder how do you interpret this. Last edited by bietchie11; 2013-03-13 at 13:22. |
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2013-03-13, 16:16 | Link #3730 |
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^^ Yeah ^^ Agree.
I bet there are many people here who want the whole Tatsuya's mistreat by the Yotsuba to be an act of kindness protecting him from whatever BULLSHIT could be and they all really love Tatsuya and wish him the best! That kind of stupid scenario can only happen if the author wished for it or wrote it while drunk. I'm pretty sure a lot of readers including me would be very upset by this though, as I can't see the possible way for that to happen without it feeling like shit, it's some kind of psychological thriller with biased perspective from the MC all along! Fuck that! The Yotsuba or pretty most of Tatsuya's family are douches! That's how I think normal people would interpret seeing all their action thus far! |
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The boss is clearly told by Tatsuya he doesn't want to work for him. He wants to go to high school, he wants to protect Miyuki. He does that because well, you know, he wants to. Not because someone forces him to or he has to. Quote:
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"doing things he doesn't want to". Why would he try time to time force his son do something he says "no" countless times? Tatsuya doesn't mind to work with each other if it suits his goal. (the thesis competition he is willingly to accept. Unlike the 9-school competition.) If he doesn't want to cooperate, it only means there is no benefit for him. And honestly, you are totally bias against Miyuki. She piss off because he takes her brother away? To make him recognized? No she won't. She is happy when he get recognized from his 3rd division, from the 101. She is totally cool when the army takes him away from her. She is totally cool when he has to do CAD stuff at 3rd division. Don't treat her like some messed up Yandere because she isn't. Her foremost concern about Tatsuya is not how to make him stay with her but how to make him happy.(staying with him is her concern, bu not the highest one.) It is showed from time to time: she is happy that he has many friends come to cheer on him in 9-school, she is hurt that Tatsuya doesn't know Erkia shows affection toward him, she doesn't obstruct Honoka, ... She is devoted but not selfish. Quote:
If you done nothing wrong, you don't do things sneaky, you high your head up and walk tall. As the boss knows his daughter's concern is her brother welfare and benefit. If he just show a report on how much benefit Tatsuya can gain if he works for the boss instead of going to school and it's reasonable, i'm sure she will approve like when Tatsuya join the moral committee, like when Mayumi asks him to take care of CAD for more students. And he doesn't dare to notify her about making Tatsuya work for him. Why? Because there isn't any benefit for Tatsuya. Can't say he loves him and want the best for him. Every information about Tatsuya is only considered official when it comes out from Miyuki's mouth. Whether his magic, his CAD develop, his emotion,.... That's what the author intent to do. Leave every narrator lines about Tatsuya for Miyuki. And you say his father gives him freedom. No. It's his awesomeness when he beats someone at their own game that give him freedom. Look at the italic line in the first quote. She tries to coerce him into her golden-egg goose, again by saying he doesn't work up to his salary and get owned. Last edited by bietchie11; 2013-03-13 at 17:06. |
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2013-03-13, 18:58 | Link #3733 | |||||
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Yes I know Tatsuya wants to protect Miyuki form the bottom of his heart. The question is does his father? It's questionable how much he even knows about Miyuki's change of heart 3 years ago since he remarired and moved out at the maxamum 6 months after it happened. Quote:
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The fact you keep acting like I am anti-Miyuki paints what I have been trying to get acrossed. I'm not I am only pointing out that she is a somewhat hotheaded teen when it comes to her brother and can be wrong. Or do you belive 13 year old Tatsuya hated her? Quote:
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2013-03-13, 20:40 | Link #3734 | |
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"Yes I know Tatsuya wants to protect Miyuki form the bottom of his heart. The question is does his father? It's questionable how much he even knows about Miyuki's change of heart 3 years ago since he remarired and moved out at the maxamum 6 months after it happened." Or like that: "No he doesn't everything he said is in refrence to him doing his duty as a Guardian. " Or this: "As stated I don't belive he understands that Tatsuya is doing it because he really wants to. And Tatsuya isn't helping because he never clearifies his motives " It doesn't change the fact "NO MEANS NO". How is it unclear when he say "no"? Does that matter if he know about Miyuki this and that? I don't understand what you are trying to say in this part because she clearly stood out for her brother multiple times, to the point that when he try to coerce him he doesn't dare to notify her. Do you even understand that this kind of stuff happen many time that he doesn't even bother to state his intention anymore and skip right through the excuse section. If i were him, i would do that too since i'm already too fed up. Unless you are saying what he said is not a refusal and the excuse of being guardian is not a pretext , a card using an authority higher than theirs to force them not to force him. Because i'm pretty sure someone who just need to communicate for 10 years would catch the drift. And this: "Again you didn't comprehend what I was saying. She is pissed with her father for the cardnal sin of trying to take her brother away from her permently. Among other things like as Tatsuya thinks him remarrying less then 6 months after her mother's death." The JSDF, which has one of the highest authorities in a countries. Honoka, a girl who has potential to be his life partner. An unless asshole ,who i don't even remember the name, whose business is sustained by his wife's family and by his son. Among those three, you say Miyuki treats the third differently because he has the authority to take him away from her permanently? Really? How? Military, Honoka, okay i can comprehend. But that spineless piece of shit? I can't. "I am only pointing out that she is a somewhat hotheaded teen when it comes to her brother and can be wrong. Or do you belive 13 year old Tatsuya hated her?" Kinda convincing but people change. "Quantity changes lead to quality changes". You takes an example of "the Miyuki" when she knows next to nothing about her to represent for the current "Miyuki" who knows everything about him? Back to the point, i think she is mature enough now(even back then, it's just she didn't have enough info to analyze.). Further more, her information is reliable since it's from Yotsuba. And you completely ignore my previous post, don't you? About him and his lap dog. 4 people who really know what's what in this mater: -Miyuki, you claim her to prejudiced for god know what reason. -Tatsuya, you disregard him for his inability to pick up good will. (even though the boss is on "ill will" list which is something Tatsuya specialize at.) -the boss' bitch, you claim her what? same as her husband: totally good will, try to invite him as a partner and totally not as a rival division head who try to make him use his ability for her works and totally not intent to take all the credit. And oh yeah, almost forget, totally love him for he is the previous wife's son. I mean every step mother in the world is always good to the husband's children and Cinderella is totally not related to any reality. -the spineless boss, ignore. Love how you use facts to prove your theory. Last edited by bietchie11; 2013-03-13 at 20:58. |
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2013-03-13, 21:05 | Link #3735 | |
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Tatsuya: "No! I like it!" Tatsurou/Sayuri: "Um, but it's really not going to help you in the long run..." Tatsuya: "NO MEANS NO!" |
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2013-03-13, 21:31 | Link #3737 | |
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And oh yeah, just a random question, but do the other nations realize that that the "Mahesvara" is the same magician that used Material Burst? Or are they still unaware? Man, I'm pretty sure Tatsuya can probably make it to the top 5 most wanted persons list if people found out he was Silver, Mahesvara, and Mr. Tactical Nuke all at the same time. |
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2013-03-13, 22:25 | Link #3738 | |
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2013-03-13, 22:50 | Link #3739 | |
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action, fantasy, harem, incest, mahouka, rettousei, school life, shounen, siblings |
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