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Old 2020-11-23, 21:28   Link #181
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Let me guess... She changed either, or both, phone's system time before changing it back, causing the message time to be off by an hour.

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Can he though? I'm only watching the anime so I don't know the source material, so far we have seen him poisoned and burnt to a crisp. I don't see how pulling off a "Cask of Amontillado" wouldn't work in this case. Although its too late now because he doesn't trust her one bit
As he is immortal, all that would happen is him undermining the cask's structure over and over again until it eventually crumbles.
You'd have to to do a Osiris on him to be anywhere near effective.
And as we know, it didn't work with Osiris forever either, as his wife Isis re-assembled and resurrected him.
As you can see, murdering immortals doesn't even work properly in mythology.
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Old 2020-11-23, 22:52   Link #182
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Let me guess... She changed either, or both, phone's system time before changing it back, causing the message time to be off by an hour.
Nana needs the actual message to be sent when she is with Kyoya.
If Kaori dies when Nana is alone (i.e. no alibi) then changing the time of the message is pointless.
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Old 2020-11-24, 07:51   Link #183
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Now if Nana had some backing and wasn't forced to do everything on her own, Kyouya could be tied and encased in a 5x5 meters concrete block. That would certainly be a horrible fate, he would probably suffer suffocation and starvation for thousands of years to come, but he certainly wouldn't be able to get out of there in anyone's lifetime, which might be his lifetime if he's not immune to the effects of aging.

But at any rate as things are now, she doesn't have access to such a secure method and anything else would be difficult to achieve and not guarantee that Kyouya wouldn't be able to escape or be helped to escape.

But regardless of that, I must say that as far as superpowers go, the power to turn your saliva into venom/poison is a really shitty one as is, the fact that you also need to eat live reptiles to maintain it just makes it unbelievably laughable.
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Old 2020-11-24, 13:30   Link #184
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Nana needs the actual message to be sent when she is with Kyoya.
If Kaori dies when Nana is alone (i.e. no alibi) then changing the time of the message is pointless.
Changing the system time forward would still help there though.

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But regardless of that, I must say that as far as superpowers go, the power to turn your saliva into venom/poison is a really shitty one as is, the fact that you also need to eat live reptiles to maintain it just makes it unbelievably laughable.
It's even more stupid when you consider that she has a boyfriend. One kiss and goodbye
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Old 2020-11-24, 19:12   Link #185
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But regardless of that, I must say that as far as superpowers go, the power to turn your saliva into venom/poison is a really shitty one as is, the fact that you also need to eat live reptiles to maintain it just makes it unbelievably laughable.
I really wonder how some of these kids even discovered their powers. Take Tsunekichi. How did he get the idea to sleep with an instant camera?
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Old 2020-11-25, 03:12   Link #186
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Maybe they instinctively know what their powers are?
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Old 2020-11-26, 03:25   Link #187
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It's getting a bit ridiculous right now, she's bodying people left and right I mean at some point you just gotta realize if she's always the first person at the crime-scene she's suspect. I feel sorry for Kyoya, he's literally surrounded by morons.
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Old 2020-11-26, 08:32   Link #188
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What strikes me is how nonchalant they are about the situation they find themselves in.

Even if you buy everything that Nana said, right now we have three disappeared, three confirmed deaths (not including Shinji), an alleged failed attempted murder, a score of corpses from previous inhabitants of the island (ostensibly talented students as well since they have the same uniforms).

And all of this is mostly pinned on "enemies of humanity" which allegedly can:
- Hide so well nobody has ever seen them one.
- Kill several talented without suffering any loss themselves.
- Possess talented and manipulate them to kill others in their stead.

The last part alone should make everyone become paranoid and suspect their classmates of being controlled by these "enemies". At any rate in this situation they should pretty much realize that they are in no way fighting against this "enemy", they are just cattle awaiting for the slaughter.
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Old 2020-11-26, 11:45   Link #189
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What strikes me is how nonchalant they are about the situation they find themselves in.

Even if you buy everything that Nana said, right now we have three disappeared, three confirmed deaths (not including Shinji), an alleged failed attempted murder, a score of corpses from previous inhabitants of the island (ostensibly talented students as well since they have the same uniforms).

And all of this is mostly pinned on "enemies of humanity" which allegedly can:
- Hide so well nobody has ever seen them one.
- Kill several talented without suffering any loss themselves.
- Possess talented and manipulate them to kill others in their stead.

The last part alone should make everyone become paranoid and suspect their classmates of being controlled by these "enemies". At any rate in this situation they should pretty much realize that they are in no way fighting against this "enemy", they are just cattle awaiting for the slaughter.
But you are using rational thought. As I mentioned earlier in the thread rational thought is this show's Kryptonite.

This story has always struck me as one of those "Let's throw some spaghetti on the wall and see what sticks." situations. The high concept was "young female Batman kills teenage supers in a school". Why? Not important. How? By being Batman. And out of that they got maybe three good chapters and ever since then they have been scrambling to try to make something sustainable out of it.
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Old 2020-11-26, 23:18   Link #190
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Series took a nosedive with the writing quality,
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Old 2020-11-28, 16:21   Link #191
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Actually, now it's when it starts to get better.
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Old 2020-11-29, 18:04   Link #192
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I noticed Michiru didn't call Nana "Nana-shan", so when she pulled the boxcutter, I knew she was a shapeshifter. I thought it'd be one of the kids though, ever expected a survivor from five years ago to still be here. And no wonder he survived with a power like that.

The way Nana got rid of the cellphone felt more than risky.
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Old 2020-11-29, 20:05   Link #193
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So... Zettai Karen Children.
It would have been so much better if Rena was actually Rena, but oh well. Will Hyoubu... I mean, whatever this guy's name's intelligence survive the wrath of Nana's plot armor?!
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Old 2020-11-29, 20:41   Link #194
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yikes, i thought Nanao would be the MC along side Nana but 2 eps in its more like Happy sugar life...those 2 could've made a killer couple (pun intended) or atleast be able to fight back. this series is dark enough for me to watch though im not exactly rooting for what Nana does.
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Old 2020-11-29, 22:48   Link #195
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though im not exactly rooting for what Nana does.
I don't think that we are supposed to
Nana herself is having doubt about it now.
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Old 2020-11-29, 23:05   Link #196
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I don't think that we are supposed to
Nana herself is having doubt about it now.
yeah im a bit crazy myself, Higurashi, Another, Shiki, Okamikamushi are some of my favorite anime. Happy sugar life wast a cluster___ on the mind and this series has piqued my interest in that topic, just saw ep1-7 and currently at ep 8.

i just love series which have a dark theme and something seems to be a bit wrong. im like Kyoya, i see a slight discrepancy in a seemingly cheerful series and it piques my interest. though her excure of "enemies of humanity" is really stale at this point... its a bit like Death note at this point...but thats just fine with me . its pretty much a series mashup of Another and Death Note atm for me

a few minutes into EP9 and that dog girl really pulled a fast one on her , now thats a twist i like to see in series like this. i just finished watching ep9

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Old 2020-11-30, 08:39   Link #197
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Well the real "dog girl" didn't actually do anything. Maybe the intent was to trick us into believe that everyone is secretly evil just like Yuuka, but it seems that dog girl is a genuinely good person.

But as Nana put it, she's not there to judge who is deserving to die, she's there to kill the talented since they pose a threat to humanity, and they are still a threat even if they don't mean any harm, as their powers might go out of control.

Anyway I see that the story actually addresses some of the weak points that I noticed earlier. Most of the students are in fact scared of what is happening now. And the existence of Jin Tachibana brings further insight of a possible reason for the authorities to send an assassin rather than use a more direct approach. If they know he's still around (and they should know since they've seen him escaping), and if they have a general idea of the power he possesses, they probably want to avoid a direct confrontation. Nana might have been sent as an expendable pawn to test the waters.
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Old 2020-12-01, 02:18   Link #198
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Nana will be is deep trouble when the others find out she killed so many of their class mates. even if Jin seems to be terrible compared to her, i dont think they'd be too kind to her when it clears up and she realizes where she went wrong
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Old 2020-12-01, 08:17   Link #199
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Kyoya said his sister had been sent to the island six months ago, right? I'm sure Jin lied about a lot of things, but if the part about the previous batch of students having been from five years ago is true, then Kyoya's sister was never there. I guess she wasn't the Nana look-a-like.
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Old 2020-12-01, 21:09   Link #200
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How long has the current batch been on the island? Since Nana and Kyouya are transfer students, it is very well possible that Kyouya's sister was supposed to be one of the current students' classmate. Apparently however not only she isn't there, nobody seems to actually know her.
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