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sayde · 2012-05-16, 05:55

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Some raw scans have been released. I'm sure the rest will follow soon enough. It looks like this weeks chapter will switch back to the SS invasion (at least for part of the chapter).

Bonta Kun · 2012-05-16, 10:06

Well so much for Mister Big RAWR monster dude, he may have layed a beat down but in the end it did jack all

Altho I did expect as much.

Now can we just have Ichigo beat this dude down and move on.

~Yami~ · 2012-05-16, 10:06

Spoiler for 492:

Kafriel · 2012-05-16, 10:36

Spoiler for 492:

Casshern · 2012-05-16, 13:20

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Eragon · 2012-05-16, 13:26

^ Seriously this is getting ridiculous. How many more Aizen look-alike is Kubo gonna draw? Does he think the readers are blind and won't notice or is he that dense to think we won't notice.

GDB · 2012-05-16, 13:53

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

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What do you mean "revealed"? This has been known for a loooong time. It might be nice to get the Quincy's point of view at some point, but for now we basically got 10 pages of recap on what we already knew.

Hunter6VI6 · 2012-05-16, 14:48

Still about the chapter but not currently being discussed...

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sayde · 2012-05-16, 15:09

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Originally Posted by GDB

It might be nice to get the Quincy's point of view at some point, but for now we basically got 10 pages of recap on what we already knew.

We already know what the Quincy point of view is. Supposedly, it comes down to the difference between justice and vengeance. Urahara spells it all out in chapter 36. Why should hollows who harm and kill friends and relatives get sent peacefully to soul society? So they held their faith they were avenging their friends. Screw the balance. Most of them didn't care. Though in their defense, the shinigami were at fault as well. Because I do believe Quincy's at least tried to come to a compromise at one point or another. It was proposed that Quincy's could at least act as first responders to hollow attacks in order to weaken hollows enough to buy time for a shinigami to come and finish it off. But the idea was dismissed. As far as the shinigami were concerned, it was either their way or the highway. Quincy's could either choose to stop fighting hollows completely, or get exterminated. There were no attempts made by the shinigami for a middle-ground resolution as far as we know.

So unless Kubo has something new to add to all this history, I hope he doesn't devote half of yet another chapter towards covering it. On another note, wow, Kajoumaru's character design is so freaking obvious. So much so that I almost wish this guy actually turns out to have some sort of direct connection to Aizen. Because this is the most blatant lookalike yet IMO. So unless there's a plot related reason for it, it just makes me want to facepalm.

Mangs · 2012-05-16, 17:47

What's the fucking point in introducing these new characters at this point? It's not like Bleach needs more under-developed characters...

~Yami~ · 2012-05-16, 18:34

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Originally Posted by GDB

What do you mean "revealed"? This has been known for a loooong time. It might be nice to get the Quincy's point of view at some point, but for now we basically got 10 pages of recap on what we already knew.

yeah.... I do remember this explanation from Ishida long time ago
well, it's a good time to refresh my mind about Quincy-Shinigami relations

kk2extreme · 2012-05-16, 19:45

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Originally Posted by GDB

What do you mean "revealed"? This has been known for a loooong time. It might be nice to get the Quincy's point of view at some point, but for now we basically got 10 pages of recap on what we already knew.

Pretty much this...

I wish we would see the Ishidas already. I want to see a badass doctor/hospital director/Quincy so bad

Langus · 2012-05-16, 22:44

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Originally Posted by GDB

What do you mean "revealed"? This has been known for a loooong time. It might be nice to get the Quincy's point of view at some point, but for now we basically got 10 pages of recap on what we already knew.

Truth. Only this version was less entertaining than Rukia's poorly drawn Chappy art version.

kk2extreme · 2012-05-16, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Langus

Truth. Only this version was less entertaining than Rukia's poorly drawn Chappy art version.

Bleach stopped being awsome when the Chappy cartoon discontinued...

astrallionheart · 2012-05-16, 23:55

We actually don't know the Shinigami's position at all...all we know is what they teach their students at the academy. I mean the shit Central 46 has been pulling throughout history, the story the 6th seat told sounds like nothing more than a victim/sob story propagated by Central 46.

In reality the "negotiation" with the Quincy probably involved shooting them in the face at first contact.

Lendial · 2012-05-17, 00:14

its like aizen and apporo grant had a tube-baby

sayde · 2012-05-17, 00:41

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Originally Posted by astrallionheart

We actually don't know the Shinigami's position at all...all we know is what they teach their students at the academy. I mean the shit Central 46 has been pulling throughout history, the story the 6th seat told sounds like nothing more than a victim/sob story propagated by Central 46.

If this was the first time we heard this story, I'd be more inclined to agree. But the story matches up well with Urahara, Rukia, and even Soken's statements from the beginning of this series. In fact, despite Uryuu's disdain for shinigami, he even acknowledges the threat the Quincy's posed to the balance--which is why, even though he dislikes shinigami, he doesn't necessarily dislike them for their decision to exterminate the Quincy's. Especially since Soken believed the shinigami's decision was probably the correct one to take. Soken admits that the Quincy were wrong for not listening to the shinigami.

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In reality the "negotiation" with the Quincy probably involved shooting them in the face at first contact.

We know Soken was among one of these negotiators. And though his attempts all ended in failure's, there's been nothing to imply that the shinigami necessarily responded to his negotiation attempts with violence and hostility.

Valky · 2012-05-17, 01:16

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I lol'ed hard at this.

Considering it's Kubo, I bet there's a world where all of the resident has Aizen's face.

Kyero Fox · 2012-05-17, 11:04

I don't see how he looks like Aizen, he looks more like Ishida's dad =\ but I guess you guys see what you want to see.

james0246 · 2012-05-17, 13:18

So, once again a female character is reduced to nothing for no real reason. It would have been far more interesting if Kubo had let the Stepford Cuckoos (or whatever their names are) take down the Quincy. But, that would have required a change of pace for Kubo, and an experience that is not telegraphed 10 chapters previous. Oh well, at least the history lesson wasn't too boring, even if it is material we already know.

2012-05-16, 10:06	Link #2
Bonta Kun Know who you are Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Resides within the depths of Ned infested Glasgow	Well so much for Mister Big RAWR monster dude, he may have layed a beat down but in the end it did jack all Altho I did expect as much. Now can we just have Ichigo beat this dude down and move on. __________________

2012-05-16, 10:06	Link #3
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Spoiler for 492: they reveal the background between Shinigami clash against Quincy we have seen Shinigami's reason... now I'm waiting for an explanation from quincy's perspective and Ayon is badass.... unfortunately it isn't enough to knock out that annoying Quincy dude

2012-05-16, 10:36	Link #4
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Spoiler for 492: Nice chapter, although sensei's part was a bit long, it did emphasize the state of things. Not having a totally one-sided fight for once was a very good change imo, anyone can die pretty quickly if they drop their guard. Unfortunately, mister pwn decides to "get srs" in the end.

2012-05-16, 13:20	Link #5
Casshern Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004	Spoiler for 492: Kubo/The Architect: This will be the 6th time we will have created an Aizen clone, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it. Maybe the last chapter will be an Aizen lookalike convention, and everyone that doesn't look like Aizen will also cosplay Aizen

2012-05-16, 13:26	Link #6
Eragon Still Alive Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somewhere far far away Age: 30	^ Seriously this is getting ridiculous. How many more Aizen look-alike is Kubo gonna draw? Does he think the readers are blind and won't notice or is he that dense to think we won't notice. __________________ Signature courtesy of rikikai

2012-05-16, 14:48	Link #8
Hunter6VI6 AVC818 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Southern California	A bit off-topic Still about the chapter but not currently being discussed... Spoiler for Bleach Chapter 492: Does anyone else think the 6th seat looks like Ryuken? __________________ Gotta make a sig for this forum.

2012-05-16, 17:47	Link #10
Mangs So sexy it hurts Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Norway Age: 35	What's the fucking point in introducing these new characters at this point? It's not like Bleach needs more under-developed characters... __________________ I came, I saw, I pwned

2012-05-16, 23:55	Link #15
astrallionheart Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	We actually don't know the Shinigami's position at all...all we know is what they teach their students at the academy. I mean the shit Central 46 has been pulling throughout history, the story the 6th seat told sounds like nothing more than a victim/sob story propagated by Central 46. In reality the "negotiation" with the Quincy probably involved shooting them in the face at first contact.

2012-05-17, 00:14	Link #16
Lendial Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	its like aizen and apporo grant had a tube-baby __________________

2012-05-17, 11:04	Link #19
Kyero Fox Tastes Cloudy Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Snake Way Age: 35	I don't see how he looks like Aizen, he looks more like Ishida's dad =\ but I guess you guys see what you want to see. __________________

2012-05-17, 13:18	Link #20
james0246 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Cupcake	So, once again a female character is reduced to nothing for no real reason. It would have been far more interesting if Kubo had let the Stepford Cuckoos (or whatever their names are) take down the Quincy. But, that would have required a change of pace for Kubo, and an experience that is not telegraphed 10 chapters previous. Oh well, at least the history lesson wasn't too boring, even if it is material we already know.