To Aru Majutsu no Index - Character Discussion - Tsuchimikado Motoharu

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[rladls716]

Tsuchimikado, I don't know why he is not discussed much as Touma and Accel.
He appeared in both magic side and science side stories.

I'm surprised that this character is still ignored after the current volume we finished reading.

[belatkuro]

Maybe it's because all we knew about him before NT7 is that he's a lolicon, a siscon, member of the Delta Force with Kamijou and Aogami Pierce, a double(triple?) agent for different factions and an esper-magician hybrid. Nothing else.
Though even with NT7, he's still full of mystery.
And the times we see him are only with other characters who stand out more so he's still not getting much attention because of that

I personally liked him even more with the events of the latest volume but I dunno about others.
It would have been cool to have him as one of the protagonists as he's the only hybrid around and his existence is in the middle of the two sides of magic and science. One can dream but I don't think that's happening anytime soon, if at all.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by belatkuro

Maybe it's because all we knew about him before NT7 is that he's a lolicon, a siscon, member of the Delta Force with Kamijou and Aogami Pierce, a double(triple?) agent for different factions and an esper-magician hybrid. Nothing else.
Though even with NT7, he's still full of mystery.
And the times we see him are only with other characters who stand out more so he's still not getting much attention because of that

I personally liked him even more with the events of the latest volume but I dunno about others.
It would have been cool to have him as one of the protagonists as he's the only hybrid around and his existence is in the middle of the two sides of magic and science. One can dream but I don't think that's happening anytime soon, if at all.

Don't forget he's also one of Touma's two best friends which makes me automatically like him. I appreciate the fact that He's a hybrid. He also is really fun/mean to Touma, but he's a pretty good guy when it comes down to it. I think there are definitely good, interesting things to say about him after this volume; however, after the next time we see his circumstances, I'm sure there really will be a gold-mine of character development he undergoes. I wonder what's going to happen to his sister because she's "dead" and she now can't do anything... can she?

[furaiz]

Spoiler for NTVol7 Maika:

As far as i'm aware, Maika is with index, and is at least going to be living in the same apartment as always. It also implies she's still working for the maid school, and isn't widely believed to be dead. Business as usual for her.

As for Motoharu, we probably won't be seeing him and Maika together for quite a while. Considering the fact he is going to be 'dead'.

[Acer]

Spoiler for fate Maika:

Maika probably will mourn the death of his brother on the shoulder of Touma, and if he plays his cards right is "Creu".

[Ilidsor]

So... does anybody else think Tsuchimikado really should have died by now? Not because I dislike him but because he really should have by this point.

Tsuchimikado is a magician/esper hybrid which is impossible but he can do it because his esper power heals the damage. However it is made clear to us that he can't use magic as much as he wants or else his power will fail and he will die. We're therefore supposed to feel worried whenever he uses his magic because he's risking death... only I don't. Tsuchimikado uses magic constantly and yet he never dies. I think 15 and 19 are the only times he appears and doesn't use magic. Off the top of my head he's used magic 6 times, and yet he's still alive. Not only has it lost all effect it's starting to make me doubt the whole "espers can't use magic" part of the series. I mean if one character can do it with impunity why can't others?

I was actually really excited reading NT7 because I was hoping Tsuchimikado would finally die. Which is weird because I like Tsuchimikado. I just think enoughs enough.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Ilidsor

So... does anybody else think Tsuchimikado really should have died by now? Not because I dislike him but because he really should have by this point.

Tsuchimikado is a magician/esper hybrid which is impossible but he can do it because his esper power heals the damage. However it is made clear to us that he can't use magic as much as he wants or else his power will fail and he will die. We're therefore supposed to feel worried whenever he uses his magic because he's risking death... only I don't. Tsuchimikado uses magic constantly and yet he never dies. I think 15 and 19 are the only times he appears and doesn't use magic. Off the top of my head he's used magic 6 times, and yet he's still alive. Not only has it lost all effect it's starting to make me doubt the whole "espers can't use magic" part of the series. I mean if one character can do it with impunity why can't others?

I was actually really excited reading NT7 because I was hoping Tsuchimikado would finally die. Which is weird because I like Tsuchimikado. I just think enoughs enough.

He said that 6 times is his limit the first time I think, maximum. So he's probably stuck right now unless he figures something else out to fix his situation. He's useless as a spy to both sides now... so... he's just going to be protected by Touma from now on, I guess... he can use guns though.

I like him as a character too, but I really didn't think he had to die. He could just suffer more than he has had to suffer anyway. I don't actually see why his power wouldn't be able to cure him more than 6 times, it isn't like him using magic should affect him more each and every time in succession should it? I feel like his power is just unreliable which is why his being healed is risky. If he could increase his esper level of power (maybe he already has) he could use it more times. It is highly possible he has increased in level, has he had a system scan at all, recently? I don't think he did, actually. If he can increase his powers as an esper, he can use magic again I guess.

Spoiler:

Since I'm sure he knows about the parameter list, he can get someone to show it to him and he can blackmail the darkness to help him, maybe?

[Ilidsor]

Originally Posted by dniv

He said that 6 times is his limit the first time I think, maximum. So he's probably stuck right now unless he figures something else out to fix his situation. He's useless as a spy to both sides now... so... he's just going to be protected by Touma from now on, I guess... he can use guns though.

He said that his limit was like 4 or 5 more times back in volume 4 but that's not the point. The point is that I know Tsuchimikado isn't going to die no matter how many times he uses magic because Kamachi doesn't want to kill him.

I like him as a character too, but I really didn't think he had to die. He could just suffer more than he has had to suffer anyway. I don't actually see why his power wouldn't be able to cure him more than 6 times, it isn't like him using magic should affect him more each and every time in succession should it? I feel like his power is just unreliable which is why his being healed is risky. If he could increase his esper level of power (maybe he already has) he could use it more times. It is highly possible he has increased in level, has he had a system scan at all, recently? I don't think he did, actually. If he can increase his powers as an esper, he can use magic again I guess.

Esper powers aren't that easy to increase. Especially for level 0s who don't get any resources spent on them. I mean even if he had a bunch of resources being spent on developing his powers (which is really unlikely as it would probably have been mentioned at some point) the entire story has only been over the course of a few months.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Erm, isn't 4-5 times refers to within a short period of time, and not his total limit?

[Ilidsor]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Erm, isn't 4-5 times refers to within a short period of time, and not his total limit?

He normally collapses after 1-2 uses so I doubt it.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Ilidsor

He normally collapses after 1-2 uses so I doubt it.

It's makes even less sense that it's 4-5 times total given how often he uses it throughout the story.

[Ilidsor]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

It's makes even less sense that it's 4-5 times total given how often he uses it throughout the story.

4-5 is more of a guess though, it's like saying "I can use it a few more times". It makes more sense for it to be an estimate about how much he can use in total, than for him to say he can use it 4-5 times in a row when twice over the course of one arc (Angel Fall) was enough for him to collapse with a pool of blood.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Ilidsor

4-5 is more of a guess though, it's like saying "I can use it a few more times". It makes more sense for it to be an estimate about how much he can use in total, than for him to say he can use it 4-5 times in a row when twice over the course of one arc (Angel Fall) was enough for him to collapse with a pool of blood.

That's just silly.

If he had a limit on the total number, the narrative would make that very clear, this is Kamachi after all- he would repeating mention it and keep track of it.

Also, just because he collapse does not mean he couldn't get up and continue; I did not mean the number of times he can use it in a row, but within a period of time before he completely is unable to carry on.

Plus, so long as his body gets healed back up he can use magic again so any limit doesn't make sense.

[Ilidsor]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

That's just silly.

If he had a limit on the total number, the narrative would make that very clear, this is Kamachi after all- he would repeating mention it and keep track of it.

Also, just because he collapse does not mean he couldn't get up and continue; I did not mean the number of times he can use it in a row, but within a period of time before he completely is unable to carry on.

Plus, so long as his body gets healed back up he can use magic again so any limit doesn't make sense.

Then what does it mean? It being a 4-5 times "within a period of time" doesn't make sense either. In Angel Fall the two times he used magic were a day apart and twice was enough to knock him out. Does he mean 4-5 times a week? If so then what's the big deal every time he uses it?

[kagato3]

the way I look at it is his power has a max amount of damage it can cover for. since the location and amount of damage he takes when he uses magic (regardless of if it is a big spell or a small one) is somewhat random he can use magic 4 -5 times is his limit before the average damage he would take is greater then the damage he can cover. On the other hand on any given casting the damage could be in a critical location and still knock him out/ kill him if he is unlucky. Of course once he has had time to heal all that damage he's back up to his 4-5 uses but that likely takes weeks.