Shakugan no Shana II - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[minhtam1638]

Oye, Pellissier is absent today? I was wondering why this thread is up so late.

Anyways, I... er, we... hope that this episode will satisfy all of our needs.

[ashlay]

Originally Posted by minhtam2448

Oye, Pellissier is absent today? I was wondering why this thread is up so late.

Anyways, I... er, we... hope that this episode will satisfy all of our needs.

doesn't look like it actually. (unless you mean Milly from code geass suddenly deciding to take over one of the side characters...)

this week is more school material bookended by Pheles buildup. (though like last week, it's novel material, not filler.) on the bright side (for those of you who despise Shana's school life ;_; ) the way things are going, certainly looks like Pheles will appear in no more than a week or two.


anyway,
-Sato and Tanaka are back to status quo with Margery. still, suppose it was good to have a reason why they're always at arms length with each other. Though I suspect Margery will be showing up the school festival despite what she said.
-Ike's life is still terrible, episode 7 feels a bit more in context now.
-Konoe continues to be a pile of confusion. she actually seemed to be truly sad about not being able to hang out with everyone (likely because the bracelet has some sort of cost or limit to how long it can operate.) And the speech she started making seemed oddly out of character too. (I know it was performing lines, but it was still really damn weird >_>) it has to be Hecate, but the particulars continue to throw me off.
-anyway, Shana and Yuji putting up the pictures of town is a nice visual summation of what's happened so far, and I liked the short conversation Alastor and Shana had. school material was certainly some of the better this season.

-story of Pheles and Johann is an interesting one really, and perhaps foreshadows Shana and Yuji's eventual fates. Clearly Pheles and Wilhelmina have some kind of past too, so that should add some welcome character work to the fighting. but nobody understands the Silver thing sadly, so I guess that's what comes after the Pheles arc.


again, a fight most certainly seems to be coming next week or the week after, hopefully things will continue to speed up from here on out.

[piku]

very interesting episode. nice script and timing, really grateful for well balance on service, school comedy and novels content. the drawing style is not so bad either.

what wilhelmina said in this episode is very concise but the most important point for the later development of this story, and i think the information is quite enough for understand the following episode even the fans that not ever read the original novels before.

still do not understand why wilhelmina have to go to paris (and forgot her rucksack in airport? www) and make khamsin has a shot on last episode. although there will be a great chance for S2 have an original ending and he will show up at the last few episode again...

how come the girls are that horrible in yuji's class: fujita (the monitress of yuji's class) got mad on seishusai even do not let ike has a break (poor ike!) and kimiko, the one who 'sexual harass' her female classmate...

fumina's mysteries is about to clear up...the voice that she speak like romeo...so cool. hecate seems coming back at the time.

shana do know wilhelmina know something (possibility) on yuji's silver flame color... and there will be a lot of tough works for wilhelmina later. give her a strong push.

[Tokkan]

... I'm wondering how the majority of people feel about Shana and Yoshida being such good friends now. It's such a big change from the first season where they'd rarely interact aside from arguing.

Anyways, this episode was a whole lot better than last week, even if the first half of it seemed a bit wasted.

[ThoHell]

The episode itself maybe boring, but man those previews at the end of each episode with Yuuji announcing is awesome. I little bit weird I guess, but they do some good previews with Yuuji's voice.

[Deathkillz]

Great...finally some set up for next ep...
This one was the usual bland, everyday slice of life with noone really taking the spot light. But the end is promising - hopefully

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep11:

Rather plain and bland, but since good times are to come, it's okay.

The episode also had some average comedy, like Ike continuing to suffer, or the breast-groping that happens in lots of anime, when girls bathe together.

Since Yukari's gone, Harumi x Hayato? <--not bad, though how long Ike would hold up......

Next time - Festival begins; lots of costumes; and lots of wind ()

Random note: Margery... has been immensely useless this season so far... All she ever does is get drunk... After course, it seems to change next week but still... It's been 11 episodes. She was also drinking while explaining her past...

We don't need to use "spoiler" anymore?

[tripperazn]

Spoiler for ep 11:

LOL, if it really does go HarumixIke, I seriously feel sorry for the guy. Jeez, the guy's life already sucks if later volumes of the novel are any indication (after confession...)

Pretty cliche episode for the first half, but I thought the posting pictures scene was well done. Hopefully Shana will pull herself together a little more, as far as taking action.

Second half...still boring, but definitely foreshadows good things

The lack of spoiler tags in this thread is rather puzzling.

[Kang Seung Jae]

I'm starting to lose interest....


Maybe I should just go and read the books.

[cnnydz]

i thought the ending of this episode was pretty good, a gust of wind brings the name of the beloved johan.
and finally we are going to get some actions (maybe not next week but pretty soon), ah i can't wait.

[Kinny Riddle]

Poor Ike's been reduced to become the show's comic relief. lol

First half was rather bland, the main focus was Shana coming to terms with her feelings for Yuji (even though she already confessed to him in S1, that was conveniently forgotten). It was only after Wilhelmina returned that the story picked up.

Once again, poor Kazumi is subject to more sexual harassment from her horny classmate, and not even Shana is safe from her clutches.

Trivia: Pheles's voice heard at the end sounded familiar, upon seeing the credits, turns out it's Inoue Marina.

Pheles would be a departure from the shota (Erio in Nanoha StrikerS) and hyperactive schoolgirl (Kana in Minami-ke) for Inoue, one line is too short to judge her, so we'll see how she fares.

[Tokkan]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

Pheles would be a departure from the shota (Erio in Nanoha StrikerS) and hyperactive schoolgirl (Kana in Minami-ke) for Inoue, one line is too short to judge her, so we'll see how she fares.

You're forgetting the slightly less than naked sniper (Yoko in Gurren Lagann) and the love-sick video rental store operator (Wataru in Hayate no Gotoku).

Though, I'm quite confident that Marina can do Pheles justice.

[changeup]

I suspect they will insert a long retrogression into the past somewhere between 16~20 episode or so... Otherwise I cannot see how they can stretch the rest of the story into about 14 episodes...

[minhtam1638]

After watching this episode, I now have a newfound hatred in Nakamura...

[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for ep12 episode preview:

Seishuu Festival (<--Since the subbers kept it like this...) Begins

On the first day of the Seishuu Festival, the costume parade begins to march around the shopping district.
1 Year 2 Class's costumes are Romeo and Juliet, by Yuuji and Kazumi, and Shana as Dorothy and Fumina as the magician from "The Wizard of Oz".
Along the course are many sightseers, including Yuuji's parents. Also, a little far away from there, was Wilhelmina and Margery, who was forcibly dragged along by Wilhelmina.

The flame's silver color that appeared in Yuuji's Unrestricted Method. Pheles who aims for the Midnight Lost Child.

In order to ask for assistance from Margery about the problems that are occurring to Yuuji's body, Wilhelmina prepares to tell her about the silver.

But, without anyone realizing it, but definitely so, the winds of ill omens begin to blow......

Will next episode be plain, or will she appear next episode?
That is the question...

[DeotoxSlayer]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for ep12 episode preview:

Seishuu Festival (<--Since the subbers kept it like this...) Begins

On the first day of the Seishuu Festival, the costume parade begins to march around the shopping district.
1 Year 2 Class's costumes are Romeo and Juliet, by Yuuji and Kazumi, and Shana as Dorothy and Fumina as the magician from "The Wizard of Oz".
Along the course are many sightseers, including Yuuji's parents. Also, a little far away from there, was Wilhelmina and Margery, who was forcibly dragged along by Wilhelmina.

The flame's silver color that appeared in Yuuji's Unrestricted Method. Pheles who aims for the Midnight Lost Child.

In order to ask for assistance from Margery about the problems that are occurring to Yuuji's body, Wilhelmina prepares to tell her about the silver.

But, without anyone realizing it, but definitely so, the winds of ill omens begin to blow......

Will next episode be plain, or will she appear next episode?
That is the question...

Well I heard that the thing with Pheles would start in episode 13, but the info might be wrong, or she might appear near the end of episode 12.

[minhtam1638]

Originally Posted by DeotoxSlayer

Well I heard that the thing with Pheles would start in episode 13, but the info might be wrong, or she might appear near the end of episode 12.

Drum Roll please...

On a side note, I am glad that Shana got the part for Dorothy. I can't imagine her being able to swing her sword in Kazumi's Juliet dress.

[DeotoxSlayer]

Originally Posted by minhtam2448

Drum Roll please...

On a side note, I am glad that Shana got the part for Dorothy. I can't imagine her being able to swing her sword in Kazumi's Juliet dress.

Yup, and besides I think she looks cuter iun the dorothy costume, thans he would have in the Juliet dress. plus there's the Romeo, and Juliet foreshadowing thingy thae people were talking about.

[DX HBK]

Wizard of Oz...

Romeo and Juliet...

Unless there is some sort of symbolism to these costumes from those plays...