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blakstealth · 2016-09-10, 06:39

Ultra-wide 21:9 key visual w/wide color gamut

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Flower · 2016-09-10, 13:14

Okay, that recent PV actually looks really good! Wow. Looking forward to this one!

AB079 · 2016-09-10, 13:34

Just saw that PV and it looks amazing, what Kyoani always have is that amazing visuals (even when the character design are usually the same over and over), those really good VA's and the atmosphere around certain scenes which makes this so special.

One thing that I think is important to say is how Kyoani used this movie in Japan to show the people what bullying can do to a person, especially if that person have some disadvantage like Shouko. I'm surprised that Kyoani did this cosidering most of their works in the last years were pure pandering stuff instead of doing something remarkable, this bring some hope on this studio again.

I really want to see this soon, it's gonna be amazing, maybe not at the level of Kimi no Na Wa but pretty close to that.

Guardian Enzo · 2016-09-10, 14:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by ices

Tweet from Makoto Shinkai

Rough translation (credit to Takana_no_Hana)

Singling out Miyu-Miyu's acting once again shows Shinkai is a man of discerning and taste.

PhoenixRising · 2016-09-13, 05:44

I read the entire manga a couple of months ago and I loved it! So I'm really looking forward to watching this.
I love the fact that Saori Hayami and Miyu Irino are voicing the leads.

I haven't really seen too many Kyoani films, but this film looks really good judging the trailers.

AB079 · 2016-09-17, 13:46

Checking how is Koe no Katachi doing at the moment on japan, I must say is pretty decent compared to Kimi no Na Wa. Obviously is not even close to get the same numbers but is pretty good.

Overall most of the comments about the movie are possitive and shows how the movie did a good job with the audience, some of them says that the animation was weird sometimes using the same faces and desings on some characters, and others saying "it was too cute" which I agree considering the art in the manga.

Spoiler for Comparison first week:

~~Pocari_Sweat~~ · 2016-09-17, 22:31

Im thankful that people on Animesuki are more sensible but it is annyoing to note that people like to compare kimi no na wa/shinkai and koe no katachi/kyoani for whatever reason atm. Leaving aside kyoani fanboy cults shitting up a storm claiming that "their movie" will trump it (theres a lot of salt and resentment that kimo no na wa is #1 on MAL atm) that its somehow both visually better (kyoani visually better than shinkai?) and better than a show with a director that tends to produce weak plots (I see great irony here) the target audience and directing styles (and in this case also the type of material) couldnt be further apart.

Since when did shinkai ever create anything for a latenight otaku auidence. Since when did shinkai ever use moe character designs? Since when was a somewhat lighthearted scifi youth drama comparable to a movie about a socially sensentive theme of bullying. I also dont see how shinkai praising this movie conceding that its a better film than his (another claim the kyoani cultists seem to lap onto).

I honestly dont see much comparison here aside from both movies being from same broad genre of youth drama and the movies screening relatively close to each other. Its annoying enough to deal with "next miyazaki" comments for shinkai as it is. It would be very nice if the movies could be assessed on its merits rather than some fanboyish studio wank or comparison to a director (miyazaki) whose type of works and direction is in no way comparable. I have little doubt that this movie will be great but no need to compare it or worse bash a unrelated movie.

Peanutbutter · 2016-09-18, 02:09

There's a chinese sub for the behind-the-scenes production on the movie. Especially for someone like me who's curious about Kyoani itself, it's definitely a treat to watch.

Guardian Enzo · 2016-09-18, 18:02

This is certainly Shinkai's most otaku-friendly movie, I'll say that much.

RollingPenguin · 2016-09-19, 17:11

I agree, it would be really unfair to compare Naoko Yamada to kitschy director who keeps trotting out same old shit for years. The photography in Tamako Love Story is astounding, certainly one of the best in the medium.

Archon_Wing · 2016-09-20, 14:23

Hmm, kinda lost track in this discussion. Who's the kitscchy repetitive director? I didn't realize Shinbo somehow entered the discussion

blakstealth · 2016-09-20, 21:48

Is this movie oscar worthy or nah?

~~Pocari_Sweat~~ · 2016-09-21, 00:09

Anime. Oscar. Does not compute.

The oscars think animation is for children only anyway. Why would anyone want oscars recognition for animation in the first place.

Reckoner · 2016-09-21, 00:38

Only Studio Ghibli has really made inroads at the Oscars but they're usually biased against non American animation anyways.

Not that this should be in the conversation anyways.

Guardian Enzo · 2016-09-21, 00:56

The Oscars almost never reward the best in any given category, it's true. But Spirited Away winning was a watershed moment for anime in America and helped fuel its current presence in the festival/arthouse circuit, like it or not. And that film actually made some money at the U.S. box office, too.

SuitUp · 2016-09-21, 01:27

I will say that if this were a non japanese live action, the theme would definitely be Oscar bait, because that's the only term to describe a story about a deaf girl and her struggles with bullying and so on...

Obelisk ze Tormentor · 2016-09-21, 01:43

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Originally Posted by RollingPenguin

I agree, it would be really unfair to compare Naoko Yamada to kitschy director who keeps trotting out same old shit for years. The photography in Tamako Love Story is astounding, certainly one of the best in the medium.

I take it that the post above is the kind of comment that Pocari was addressing in his previous post? I wasn't even aware of this issue before he pointed it out. But seriously, why are people even comparing and taking sides between Koe & Kimi (or Kyoani & Shinkai) movies? Did Kyoani-fans (and Shinkai-fans?) somehow got infected by the terrible "Marvel vs. DC"-virus and looking for object to unnecessarily bash? Why can't they just enjoy both movies like normal people without feeling obligated to trash the one they considered "rival" (for some random reason)? *smh*

moodie · 2016-09-21, 09:14

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

I take it that the post above is the kind of comment that Pocari was addressing in his previous post? I wasn't even aware of this issue before he pointed it out. But seriously, why are people even comparing and taking sides between Koe & Kimi (or Kyoani & Shinkai) movies? Did Kyoani-fans (and Shinkai-fans?) somehow got infected by the terrible "Marvel vs. DC"-virus and looking for object to unnecessarily bash? Why can't they just enjoy both movies like normal people without feeling obligated to trash the one they considered "rival" (for some random reason)? *smh*

You are mistaking anime fans for idiots who baitpost and start studio wars. Most fans think both are great (those who seen it) and most fans want to watch both.

There is just a strong bias against Shinkai, not because of the sales, but because of his direction ability. Many people think he hides all his storytelling flaws with great looking art and animation. Are they wrong? Thats for you to judge.

Guardian Enzo · 2016-09-21, 10:06

Whatever hate there is for Shinkai (I think you're overstating it a bit) is certainly going to be amplified now. If there's anything otaku hate it's directors who have mainstream success.

AB079 · 2016-09-21, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

I take it that the post above is the kind of comment that Pocari was addressing in his previous post? I wasn't even aware of this issue before he pointed it out. But seriously, why are people even comparing and taking sides between Koe & Kimi (or Kyoani & Shinkai) movies? Did Kyoani-fans (and Shinkai-fans?) somehow got infected by the terrible "Marvel vs. DC"-virus and looking for object to unnecessarily bash? Why can't they just enjoy both movies like normal people without feeling obligated to trash the one they considered "rival" (for some random reason)? *smh*

People who can enjoy both movies and tell what are their flaws can compare Kimi no Na Wa and Koe no Katachi, the problem is when you mix the obnoxious fans of certain Studio/Director with the people who can do what I said and well... you can see what happens. Both movies has their good things and bad things but as you said there are the "fans" trying too hard to say "X movie is better!" which leads to pointless discussion.

The only point where you can be objective at the moment of making a comparison is the sales where Koe no Katachi is doing a great job compared to a huge seller like Kimi no Na Wa, other than that both have great visuals, nice story (a bit stronger on Koe no Katachi just because the source was already out for years when Kimi no Na Wa was just a story created just recently), and basically both of them are good, is your choice to pick one or another. For me I enjoyed Kimi no Na Wa more than Koe just because Kyoani didn't bothered to at least use different desings as the usual ones (you know the moe faces without difference slapped on every character).

Now back to the point, I agree with the fact that there are a huge amount of obnoxious fans trying to shit on either of those movies, especially from Kyoani side. You just need to stop paying attention to them and move on, also read the comments and see what opinion truly matters.

2016-09-10, 13:14	Link #222
Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Okay, that recent PV actually looks really good! Wow. Looking forward to this one! __________________

2016-09-13, 05:44	Link #225
PhoenixRising Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016	I read the entire manga a couple of months ago and I loved it! So I'm really looking forward to watching this. I love the fact that Saori Hayami and Miyu Irino are voicing the leads. I haven't really seen too many Kyoani films, but this film looks really good judging the trailers. Last edited by PhoenixRising; 2016-09-13 at 08:14.

2016-09-17, 13:46	Link #226
AB079 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016	Checking how is Koe no Katachi doing at the moment on japan, I must say is pretty decent compared to Kimi no Na Wa. Obviously is not even close to get the same numbers but is pretty good. Overall most of the comments about the movie are possitive and shows how the movie did a good job with the audience, some of them says that the animation was weird sometimes using the same faces and desings on some characters, and others saying "it was too cute" which I agree considering the art in the manga. Spoiler for Comparison first week: Rank #1 Tickets Sold 168847 Total Seats 413169 Times (Screened?) 1121 Number of Houses 218 Compared to Last Week 84.6% Movie Kimi no Na wa Rank #2 Tickets Sold 58286 Total Seats 100403 Times (Screened?) 377 Number of Houses 102 Compared to Last Week - Movie Koe no Katachi the Movie 01 (01) ¥964,000,000 ($9.5 million), -15%, ¥8,300,000,000 ($80.9 million), Your Name. (Toho) Week 4 03 (---) ¥200,000,000 ($1.9 million), 0, ¥200,000,000 ($1.9 million), A Silent Voice (Shochiku)

2016-09-17, 22:31	Link #227
~~Pocari_Sweat~~ <em style="color:#808080;">Disabled By Request</em> Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia	Im thankful that people on Animesuki are more sensible but it is annyoing to note that people like to compare kimi no na wa/shinkai and koe no katachi/kyoani for whatever reason atm. Leaving aside kyoani fanboy cults shitting up a storm claiming that "their movie" will trump it (theres a lot of salt and resentment that kimo no na wa is #1 on MAL atm) that its somehow both visually better (kyoani visually better than shinkai?) and better than a show with a director that tends to produce weak plots (I see great irony here) the target audience and directing styles (and in this case also the type of material) couldnt be further apart. Since when did shinkai ever create anything for a latenight otaku auidence. Since when did shinkai ever use moe character designs? Since when was a somewhat lighthearted scifi youth drama comparable to a movie about a socially sensentive theme of bullying. I also dont see how shinkai praising this movie conceding that its a better film than his (another claim the kyoani cultists seem to lap onto). I honestly dont see much comparison here aside from both movies being from same broad genre of youth drama and the movies screening relatively close to each other. Its annoying enough to deal with "next miyazaki" comments for shinkai as it is. It would be very nice if the movies could be assessed on its merits rather than some fanboyish studio wank or comparison to a director (miyazaki) whose type of works and direction is in no way comparable. I have little doubt that this movie will be great but no need to compare it or worse bash a unrelated movie. Last edited by Pocari_Sweat; 2016-09-17 at 22:46.

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SuitUp ¡Gracias Totales! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Entre caníbales... Age: 31	I will say that if this were a non japanese live action, the theme would definitely be Oscar bait, because that's the only term to describe a story about a deaf girl and her struggles with bullying and so on... __________________ Tómate el tiempo en desmenuzarme...

2016-09-10, 06:39	Link #221
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Ultra-wide 21:9 key visual w/wide color gamut Spoiler:

2016-09-10, 13:34	Link #223
AB079 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016	Just saw that PV and it looks amazing, what Kyoani always have is that amazing visuals (even when the character design are usually the same over and over), those really good VA's and the atmosphere around certain scenes which makes this so special. One thing that I think is important to say is how Kyoani used this movie in Japan to show the people what bullying can do to a person, especially if that person have some disadvantage like Shouko. I'm surprised that Kyoani did this cosidering most of their works in the last years were pure pandering stuff instead of doing something remarkable, this bring some hope on this studio again. I really want to see this soon, it's gonna be amazing, maybe not at the level of Kimi no Na Wa but pretty close to that.

2016-09-18, 02:09	Link #228
Peanutbutter Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	There's a chinese sub for the behind-the-scenes production on the movie. Especially for someone like me who's curious about Kyoani itself, it's definitely a treat to watch.

2016-09-19, 17:11	Link #230
RollingPenguin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013	I agree, it would be really unfair to compare Naoko Yamada to kitschy director who keeps trotting out same old shit for years. The photography in Tamako Love Story is astounding, certainly one of the best in the medium.

2016-09-20, 21:48	Link #232
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Is this movie oscar worthy or nah?

2016-09-21, 00:09	Link #233
~~Pocari_Sweat~~ <em style="color:#808080;">Disabled By Request</em> Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Australia	Anime. Oscar. Does not compute. The oscars think animation is for children only anyway. Why would anyone want oscars recognition for animation in the first place.